Rosenthal: Tanaka signs with Yankees
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Even if he doesn't, Yankees will have to lose him/extend him in 4 years.Rudy Pemberton said:
You think they'd learn with the opt-outs.
Any word on what sort of chair Theo threw across the room?
Lounge, with a tasteful pattern and brass accoutrements.
Lounge, with a tasteful pattern and brass accoutrements.
Will he continue in the tradition of previous Japanese pitching signings? Bad things do happen in threes (Irabu, Igawa, Tanaka (?))
glennhoffmania said:
Well, he could always return to Japan. Certainly not the same leverage as true MLB free agency, but it's not like he won't have a choice. If he's produced at a level that merits a raise relative to market, the Yankees will have to pony up.
glennhoffmania said:
Indeed - I think Darvish is kind of an anomaly for an Asian pitcher given his size, and there is alot of risk in a long term contract for an Asian pitcher given the track record of Dice-K, Nomo and others, albeit yes, Tanaka is younger than those guys. Assume he will have a couple good years at least out of the gate until the league gets more familiar with his stuff, so it is years 3-8 that are potentially troubling....
SouthernBoSox said:
They didn't have to do it anyway, they could just let guys go. This worked out nicely for them with Soriano, and would have worked out amazingly well with A-Rod and CC if they'd just had the balls to let them go once they opted out.
Does Ellsbury now feel underpaid?
I'm assuming they'll now sign Drew as well, considering they're just throwing money around.
I'm assuming they'll now sign Drew as well, considering they're just throwing money around.
jon abbey said:
Jon, we've gone through this a million times. Giving a player the option is a benefit to him, not the team. Just because it may once in a while work out that it helps the team doesn't change the math.
Indeed. Follow up is whether the fact that this puts them over $189m will trigger a spending spree. Boras/Drew may be very happy about this. As will Garza and others.jon abbey said:
In a vacuum, this signing only makes the Yankees marginally better, but if it lifts the self-imposed $189m cap, it may make them a lot better as they now can fill the myriad holes they have, not to mention allow them to trade some of their surplus OF while eating money. In short, it gives them back the power of their money.
Rudy Pemberton said:
Yeah, all I'm saying is that giving the player the option hasn't been the issue and in fact in all three cases it should have worked out in NY's benefit once the player opted out. NY got all prime years from CC and A-Rod pre opt-out, and the opt-outs would have taken them off the hook for the decline years.
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The Yankees are paying out the same money to Tanaka/Rakuten as the M's paid to extend Felix -- $175 million. Absolute insanity
The Yankees are paying out the same money to Tanaka/Rakuten as the M's paid to extend Felix -- $175 million. Absolute insanity
The opt-out is a free option to the player, that they want. They player (Tanaka) has the option to capture the upside in a rising market.
Harold Reynolds "The way I look at this, is that they are taking a pitcher over a bat. They got the pitcher for what they would have gotten Cano for."
He is awful.
He is awful.
This was a fait accompli and we all knew it. Yanks must have given Tanaka a hard deadline on this deal, otherwise there's no reason for him to sign today and not Friday.
Still, I don't see how he could've done much better, especially with the opt out after four years.
Still, I don't see how he could've done much better, especially with the opt out after four years.
They literally have no clue, do they? I mean, signing Tannaka to this kind of money isn't necessarily bad; it's risky, sure, but it could pay off, but couple this with all of the other moves made over the last two offseasons and there is no coherent plan in Yankeeland. This is something many of us have commented on all offseason, but this signing just further confirms this.
Yaz4Ever said:
No shit. Tanaka's annual salary+ prorated bonus is exactly a million bucks higher than Jacoby's.
mt8thsw9th said:
It was Jose Contreras.
I'm assuming he will also be able to void the 6 year service time rule like the Matsui and Cespedes contracts have in the past. They wouldn't negotiate an apt out just to go to arbitration and get less money.glennhoffmania said:
[SIZE=11pt]So much for trying to stay under the tax. Im sure they really don’t give a shit anyway. Now the average age is only 33yrs. If you think about it, they are still going to suck balls since they lost cano, and the blackhole that is arod. 1 step forward still 2 steps back.[/SIZE]
Looks like way too much of an investment for a pitcher with a flat fastball that barely approaches the mid-90's. Way too much for a non-ace. Has anyone seen a scouting report, even one, that says he's a #1 starter? For that much $, he sort of should be, no?
He threw the chair, allegedly, when they lost out on Jose Contreras.mt8thsw9th said:
Edit: I agree with those who say that Drew is a natural fit now, especially given his alleged willingness to play 2b.
Unfortunately, if CC and Tanaka are decent, the MFY look pretty good on paper, though they have very little depth.