Raiders Dennis Allen fired? Yes, yes he is.

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“@APtcollins: My sources tell me that @RAIDERS head coach Dennis Allen is fired and an announcement could come as soon as Tuesday”
 
 
https://twitter.com/APtcollins/status/516400718249336833
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Sox and Rocks said:
Seems to be a reporter making an educated guess but not having actual info.  
 
I miss when reporting was about actual info/sources
 
Go back to the 90s, you Luddite. 
 

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He gone. Glazer and Vic Tafur (beat writer) have it on Twitter.
 
 
Edit:  Reggie McKenzie is probably next -- I've got to think Mark Davis is ready to start over...again.  
 

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Sparano to take over as interim head coach. Fist pumps for field goals are back!
 

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jsinger121 said:
Fired over the phone too. Looks like Mark Davis learned well from his dad.
 
Can someone tape Mark Davis making racially charged marks to mistresses or catch him beat up a child? Raiders need more of an ownership change than Dallas ever would. 
 

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Can someone tape Mark Davis making racially charged marks to mistresses or catch him beat up a child? Raiders need more of an ownership change than Dallas ever would. 
 
You shut your filthy mouth.
 

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jsinger121 said:
Fired over the phone too. Looks like Mark Davis learned well from his dad.
 
 
Where is this coming from?
 
He was fired by the GM in a face to face meeting. The owner called him to thank him for his hard work after he was fired.
 
The Raiders are screwed up enough that you don't need to invent reasons to denigrate them.  You guys keep trying to make Mark Davis his father, and he isn't that guy, both good and bad. 
 
 
-Q: Did you have any communication with Dennis Allen last night?
-DAVIS: I left him a message last night and he left me a message back this morning. But we haven’t spoken together.
-Q: What was the final issue for you?
-DAVIS: Reggie made the decision and I agreed with it. But at the same time it was Reggie’s decision to make. As I’ve said all along.
-Q: If Reggie said he wanted to keep Allen now, would he still be coaching?
-DAVIS: Then that’s how it would’ve been. Yeah, absolutely. It’s been the same all the way through.
Q: Reggie hired Allen, he brought in all the players–he fired Allen, which seems to suggest the coach was to blame. Would you agree with that?
-DAVIS: Uhh.. I think I’ll go along with what Reggie said. I think it’s all the things involved. I think when I was looking at it after he made the decision that Dennis would go, I wanted to look at it–is it the players? Do we not have the players? Could that be the reason?
Is it the coaches? Maybe we don’t have the right coaches? Could it be scheme? Was that the problem?
I think you have to look at all three of those things and make a decision which way to go.
In my analysis I think we do have players that can play in this game. And I just think that there may be some changes in how the schemes are utilized.
Dennis is the one who has taken the fall for it but I think Dennis gave his heart to the Raiders and I’ll always appreciate that… I don’t know that you could put it on any one thing, to be honest.
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2014/09/30/mark-davis-dennis-allen-reggie-mckenzies-fate-prospect-talking-jon-gruden/
 
SeoulSoxFan said:
 
Can someone tape Mark Davis making racially charged marks to mistresses or catch him beat up a child? Raiders need more of an ownership change than Dallas ever would. 
 
 
I don't think the problem is ownership, other than the fact that M. Davis is cash poor. The GM, who was very highly recommended, has largely sucked and his strategy failed. Of course, he will likely be leaving the next GM a great cap situation and all of their picks, with some interesting young players, so there is that. 
 

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If he hit on Derek Carr, and it looks like he may have, then that'll excuse a lot of those mistakes...of which there are many. That said, he still deserves to get fired, too.
 
But I'm jazzed for the Sparano era! Guy always struck me as sort of comical caricature of a football coach.
 

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Gunfighter 09 said:
 
I don't think the problem is ownership, other than the fact that M. Davis is cash poor. The GM, who was very highly recommended, has largely sucked and his strategy failed. Of course, he will likely be leaving the next GM a great cap situation and all of their picks, with some interesting young players, so there is that. 
Do you think McKenzie has sucked? He basically had to shovel shit his first two seasons with few draft picks and a lousy cap situation. I don't think his moves have been stellar but he got them out of cap hell. I'd like to see him get another year at least; not sure he will get it, though.
 

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I am torn on whether or not to fire McKinzie, who I think is still well thought of in NFL circles. I think he needs another two years, but I wouldn't keep him if his presence was the only thing stopping Harbaugh / Gruden hires. Seeing how those are pipe dreams, I imagine he stays and hires the next coach. 
 
Mitigating factors: 
 
-They had no draft picks and were in a horrible cap situation when Reggie arrived. 
-They have no cash on hand and play in a dump.
-The franchise has become the 90's Bengals or 80's Bucs in terms of reputation, so they have to overpay to get good free agents.
-Darren McFadden never came back from his foot injury that occurred in 2011. He is just not the same guy. 
 
 
The Good: 
 
-Turned the worst cap situation in the NFL into one of the most flexible. The Raiders have ~$60M in cap room next year and can turn that into ~$90 by cutting some of the veterans they signed this year. They will cut Shaub, MJD and potentially one of the DLinemen they signed, so I imagine they will have ~$75M to spend in the offseason. Considering the cap hell where they started, he has done a really great job with this. 
 
-This last draft seems solid with Khalil Mack, Derek Carr, and Gabe Jackson at the top and some interesting depth players at the bottom.  His 2013 draft does not look as good, with only LB Sio Moore sticking out as a good player, but the top two picks, Menlick Watson and DJ Hayden have been hurt both seasons, so it is hard to judge at this point. 
 
-Has found keeper UDFA's like WR Rod Streeter and QB Matt McGloin (who makes up for cutting 4th round pick QB Tyler Wilson) 
 
-He has all of his picks going forward, which seems kind of unbelievable for us Raiders fans. 
 
 
The Bad:
 
-Firing Hue Jackson was a mistake. Hiring Dennis Allen was a bigger mistake. Not making Allen bring in some older coaches to help him learn just compounded the mistake. 
 
-Trading Carson Palmer has turned out to be a mistake. I understood the trade at the time, when they consolidated their cap woes in 2013 and needed the extra $6M they saved trading Palmer.  However, Palmer would have been much better to have around than either Matt Flynn  or Matt Shaub, and they spent three picks on those guys and only got two (lower) picks back for Palmer. Further, Palmer would have been a much better mentor for any of Tyrrelle Pryor, McGloin or Derek Carr than Flynn & Shaub trying to extend their careers.
 
-Letting Jared Veldheer and Lamarr Houston go was a mistake. I know that, per PFF, their older replacements, Donal Penn and Justin Tuck, have outplayed Veldheer and Houston, but you need to re-sign your above average FAs. For all of the extra cap room Reggie gained by signing the older players to non guaranteed deals, he lost time with the youth that he let go. 
 
-He let some of the wrong Al Davis players go for no other reason than that they were Al Davis players. Rams RT Joe Barksdale was a 3rd round pick cut after one year, Mike Mitchell did good things in Carolina, Jack Crawford is playing in Dallas, Matt Shaunessey is a starter on Arizona's offensive line, Louis Murphy has caught on, etc. etc. The Raiders keep recycling the middle and bottom of the roster, but there are several useful players that were jettisoned solely for the offense of being Al Davis guys. 
 
-He has gotten incredibly unlucky with injuries. The only young Al Davis players that McKenzie gave money to were Tyvon Branch and Taiwan Jones, both of whom are now on IR. 
 
-He still hasn't found a QB, despite a ton of trying, though Carr might be the guy. 
 
At the end of the day, he does not deserve to be fired, but I wouldn't keep him around if you could get Chucky back or convince Harbaugh to pull the ultimate "fuck you" move on the 49ers. I think he keeps his job and the Raiders hire former assistant coach David Shaw.
 
What I think actually happens is that they are probably going to win 1-2 games, cut all of the vets they signed with no long term money this spring and start the next coach over with the #1 pick, a ton of cap room and hopefully a stadium/location solution that could solve the cash problems. 
 

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What I think actually happens is that they are probably going to win 1-2 games, cut all of the vets they signed with no long term money this spring and start the next coach over with the #1 pick, a ton of cap room and hopefully a stadium/location solution that could solve the cash problems. 
 
 
It's a bold strategy Cotton, let's see if it pays off for them. 
 
Anytime you want to write about the Raiders for FC...drop me a line. I hope you enjoyed the Al Davis piece this week. You were pretty much the entire intended audience.