Protecting the Shields -- The Nick Cafardo Thread

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On the plus side, old friend Tom Donohoe, who hasn't been doing much of anything since running the Buffalo Bills into nowhere with Bledsoe as QB, just got some sort of consulting or staffing gig with the Eagles. Nick must be ecstatic.
Even though it's a baseball column, was shocked that Nick refrained from mentioning this on Sunday.
 

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Would it kill him to justify this assertion somehow? I neither agree nor disagree but I would love to know what his rationale is.
I don't think he counts getting a starter's ass out of there a batter too soon rather than a batter too late...like he did yesterday.

That was a big run and even the radio guys were saying that Buchholz was cooked.
 

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What you guys don't understand is that Bay and Damon bring untold amounts of leadership and presence to a team as well as anonymous quotes to a certain scribe at the Globe -- for when people in Boston actually give a shit about hearing what's going on in the Indians and Mets clubhouses.
 

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The different looks of Nick Cafardo...

A Pavlovian call for an article.

"And we have different combinations. We have guys with a different look, so if I bring in a righthander in the sixth inning and it’s Atch [Scott Atchison], then I bring in a righthander like Matty Albers, it’s a different look.

“I have the same thing going on with the lefties. If I bring in the three lefties, they’re all different looks, so the opposition can’t prepare. So far so good."
http://www.boston.co...n_with_red_sox/
 

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Someone please give Jamie Moyer a chance to pitch again after he was designated for assignment by the Rockies. We need to see him pitch at 50.
Why?

http://bostonglobe.com/sports/2012/06/02/baseball-trade-deadline-nears-buyers-and-sellers-will-sorted-out/MaHxb17d7VNyRQRmpURJcM/story.html
 

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Why?

http://bostonglobe.com/sports/2012/06/02/baseball-trade-deadline-nears-buyers-and-sellers-will-sorted-out/MaHxb17d7VNyRQRmpURJcM/story.html
Nick has this whole paragraph archived about Jamie Moyer, where the only thing he ever has to do is fill in the blank for "The Oldest Player/Pitcher to ever ________________", and plug in the date and teams. It's a great space eater for the Sunday Notes.
 

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If Bard reinvents himself at Pawtucket as a standout fireballing reliever, it will be as effective as a year's supply of Viagra to old Nickles.
 

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99% of the time I just think Nick is a lazy, insecure, hopeless doofus. The other 1% of the time he's irritating.

In an article about fans showing up late, where his reporting effort constitutes copying and pasting Tweets, he takes another potshot at Ellsbury.

Is it because so many of their star players, such as Jacoby Ellsbury, are out of the lineup?
http://www.boston.co...shionably_late/

Does he think he's playing amateur Jedi Mind Tricks on Ellsbury and Scott Boras to "will" him back into the lineup? (I have an image of Nick as the YouTube Star Wars kid). Does he believe he's doing the Sox FO a favor by inferring Ellsbury is a malingerer?

This type of stuff is just so unnecessary.

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I don't think that's a shot at Ellsbury, I think that's a shot at the Boston fans. What he's saying is that Boston fans are now going to games later because one of their stars, the leadoff hitter Jacoby Ellsbury, isn't in the lineup so thus they don't have to be in their seats first thing.

At least that's what it sounds like to me.

However, what he seems to be missing is that the top of the first has already ended so Ellsbury wouldn't be the first Red Sox player that they saw in action that night. It would be the day's starting Boston pitcher. It's a completely illogical statement to make, BTW. But that's pretty much par for the course with Nick Cafardo.
 

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Well, today's classic non-sequitur was his On Baseball article about how the Sox need to acquire another starting pitcher (an argument that certainly has merit), followed by his Notes column that talks up acquring Upton from the Dbacks for, you guessed it, a starting pitcher (Buch).
 

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Well, today's classic non-sequitur was his On Baseball article about how the Sox need to acquire another starting pitcher (an argument that certainly has merit), followed by his Notes column that talks up acquring Upton from the Dbacks for, you guessed it, a starting pitcher (Buch).
Hey, Nick blows, but this isn't exactly advocating a trade of a starter:

1. Justin Upton, OF, Diamondbacks - Trying to get a consistent performance from Upton has been a real challenge for manager Kirk Gibson. Upton is obviously a tremendous talent, and the D-Backs need offense. Would Upton ever be available in a deal? Only Kevin Towers knows for sure, but a few baseball evaluators wouldn’t mind tempting him with a package. The D-Backs don’t need pitching, so you wouldn’t be able to dangle a Clay Buchholz.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2012/06/10/managers-top-major-league-baseball/RYnpY8jOFolTyogSKTdlsJ/story.html

His thesis is that the DBacks aren't looking for a starter. I agree, it's superfluous to even mention Clay, since he a trade for a starter isn't happening in his view. But I don't see the above as him pushing the Sox to move a starter.

Separately, Nick is back to beating the drum beat for Jose Iglesias.

After Harper’s walk, Matsuzaka didn’t get any help on a hard ground ball by Zimmerman just to the right of shortstop Mike Aviles, who couldn’t come up with it. Although Aviles has been terrific, this was a prime example why Jose Iglesias is a pitcher’s best friend.


Iglesias, who is on the disabled list at Pawtucket, would have fielded that grounder and got at least the force at second, and possibly started a double play. Instead, Matsuzaka had to rear back to strike out LaRoche, but then allowed a ground-rule double to Michael Morse, scoring one run, and a single to Ian Desmond, which plated a pair.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2012/06/10/matsuzaka-return-enough-bolster-sox-pitching/7HKSTeYcDyLTmjur5kRELJ/story.html

Nicky forgets that there's no such thing as a Designated Fielder and that he can't simply compare Aviles and Iglesias without taking into account the offensive side of the game.
 

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Yeah, I might not have read that right.

Probably because I got ill seeing that there's a new member of the Nick-suckup-to-the-parent-or-uncle family with the emergence of Kapstein II
 

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At least it now seems like his readers are starting to take him to task in his "Ask Nick" section...

Why do you feel the need to give smart-aleck answers? Like the one about Middlebrooks playing second. You answer because he's a third baseman. Or your remark to a question about Ortiz bunting. In any profession including pro baseball you need to be versatile, continue learning and improving yourself to remain competitive. I see nothing wrong with Ortiz learning to bunt (which he could have mastered years ago) or Middlebrooks giving short or second a try. These guys are athletically gifted and paid very well to boot. Heck, Adrian Gonzalez is holding his own in right. Dial that pitching machine up to 90 and have Ortiz bunt 50 times every day. If he starts putting bunts down third imagine what his average would be. Middlebrooks could spend time at short or second before every game. so enough with the smart-aleck answers and stop giving the guys a pass.
-- Jeff, Fogelsville, Pennsylvania

OK Jeff, I’ll get the bunting machine ready for Ortiz. That’s what I want my biggest slugger to do, bunt. I’m sure the opposition would love it. As I answered in a previous question, Middlebrooks did take grounders at short and second as an emergency when Pedroia got hurt. Hope that satisfies you.

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2012/06/ask_nick_is_sen.html
 

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At least it now seems like his readers are starting to take him to task in his "Ask Nick" section...

Why do you feel the need to give smart-aleck answers? Like the one about Middlebrooks playing second. You answer because he's a third baseman. Or your remark to a question about Ortiz bunting. In any profession including pro baseball you need to be versatile, continue learning and improving yourself to remain competitive. I see nothing wrong with Ortiz learning to bunt (which he could have mastered years ago) or Middlebrooks giving short or second a try. These guys are athletically gifted and paid very well to boot. Heck, Adrian Gonzalez is holding his own in right. Dial that pitching machine up to 90 and have Ortiz bunt 50 times every day. If he starts putting bunts down third imagine what his average would be. Middlebrooks could spend time at short or second before every game. so enough with the smart-aleck answers and stop giving the guys a pass.
-- Jeff, Fogelsville, Pennsylvania

OK Jeff, I’ll get the bunting machine ready for Ortiz. That’s what I want my biggest slugger to do, bunt. I’m sure the opposition would love it. As I answered in a previous question, Middlebrooks did take grounders at short and second as an emergency when Pedroia got hurt. Hope that satisfies you.

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2012/06/ask_nick_is_sen.html
That's not exactly taking Cafardo to task for his real shortcomings, though. It IS stupid and deserving of mockery to suggest that the team's best slugger be bunting more than once in a blue moon. And it is stupid to expect a rookie to be able to sufficiently handle a position he hasn't played in years, if ever, in anything other than a dire emergency situation (like if Punto or Aviles were hurt while Pedroia was down).
 

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"Ask Nick" is just terrible. Sometimes the questions are good and often they're not-so-good but in any case, Cafardo expends a minimal amount of effort, adds no real insight or analysis, and basically half-asses the whole thing. "Ask Nick" makes a JoeChat seem insightful. I was just happy to see him criticized by a reader in print.

Why is Scott Atchison so effective? He doesn't have blazing speed nor mystifying breaking stuff. It is such an amazing story.
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Strike-thrower. That’s the key to good relief. He doesn’t hurt himself. He attacks hitters and has good location. Learned how to pitch.
 

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Here we go again:


The Sox seem to need a spark, a call-up, or a trade.

They’re not going to get any help from Ellsbury, who is going into his second month of a methodical rehab of subluxation of his non-throwing shoulder
The "non-throwing" part is very important, after all, there aren't very many non-throwing activities that a baseball player engages in.


I wonder if Nick ever strains his colon pumping out this crap.
 

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And this from the same column:

Kevin Youkilis went 0 for 3 and got hit below the rib cage and is now hitting .219. Right now, he’s not even trade bait and he was hitting third.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2012/06/13/sox-offense-needs-makeover/0wPjwerGtnw79uKgc4kuGI/story.html

So when the Sox eventually do trade Youks, it will not be because he was "bait." It will be for some other reason.

Nick's failure to understand that Youks' performance impacts the return the Sox will get as opposed to their ultimate ability to move him is...classic Nick.
 

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An older scout compared Trout to a young Valentine before a leg injury cost Valentine a promising playing career.

When approached about the Trout comparison, Valentine, who is a huge Harper fan, said, “As a matter of fact, he’s the only player I’ve ever thought was a similar player.’’


http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2012/06/16/who-best-young-talent-take-your-pick/C1ep9t3GF6l7VSIZXLjcVI/story.html
 

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Nicky's seething hatred of Jacoby Ellsbury is alive and well.

5. Would love to hear a conversation between Nationals general manager Mike Rizzo and Ben Cherington about Jacoby Ellsbury. The Nats have been looking for that impact leadoff hitter/center fielder for a while, and they have an interesting pitcher or two that would fit Boston nicely. The Sox are convinced that Jackie Bradley is going to be a major league center fielder, and he is rising fast. So there is less reason to be held hostage by Ellsbury’s future contract demands and lengthy rehabs.
Nicky again used the "we" construct about a zillion times and didn't tell us why seeking counsel from Stan Kasten was extraordianary.

We even asked Dodgers CEO Stan Kasten.
While not racist per se, this comment is beyond idiotic, even for Nicky.

11. Both of Ryan Dempster’s two career triples have come off Japanese pitchers: Hideo Nomo and Daisuke Matsuzaka.
http://www.bostonglo...jcVI/story.html
 

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Given what he's written in the past I don't think he is that excited about Ellsbury taking the field that he needs to use exclamation points. If you're going to hate on the guy just come out and do it. None of this passive-aggressive sarcastic bullshit.
I so wish someone would call him on it. Even politely, so that he would have to explain himself. Which he couldn't do, since he's neither a doctor, nor has he spoken with one.


Look! Nick is eating! #sunsetsinwest
 

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Isn't Pedroia the poster boy for "just rub some dirt on it and get back in there" crowd, of which Nick is the chapter president?

He's (a) mostly sucked since he got hurt and (b) aggravated the injury. I belive the gritty Nick Punto has hit more homers (what a blast that was) in that span than Dustin (unless he maybe hit ONE, but I don't remember it).
 

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http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2012/06/21/kevin_youkilis_trade_would_make_red_sox_lineup_normal/

They could make a straight salary dump and not get anything for him, but he is a homegrown product they developed into an All-Star and a Gold Glove first baseman, so they want something in return.
Yes, Nick. The Sox want something in return because they drafted him. In 2001. Because trade partners always pony up more in return when the guy you're trading is a "homegrown product." Especially when he is playing like twigs and seeds.
 

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Several quotes from Boras in the article above....you notice that Nick never presses Boras about Nick's theory about Jacoby not recovering more quickly from injuries. Never.
 

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http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2012/06/21/kevin_youkilis_trade_would_make_red_sox_lineup_normal/



Yes, Nick. The Sox want something in return because they drafted him. In 2001. Because trade partners always pony up more in return when the guy you're trading is a "homegrown product." Especially when he is playing like twigs and seeds.
He's at it again this morning in a piece calling for trading Ellsbury and Lester for King Felix:

This would be a hard deal for the Red Sox to make as well, because Lester and Ellsbury are homegrown players. Lester beat cancer, won the clinching game of the 2007 World Series, and has become a good pitcher, though not an elite one.
And this little gem too:
And don’t tell me there’s no money to sign Ellsbury long term in Seattle. You’ve got that recluse Japanese owner, who has tons of money. He could make Ellsbury and agent Scott Boras very happy. Ellsbury could go home, getting away from that intense Boston scrutiny and having people like myself question how long it takes to come back from five broken ribs and a subluxation of a non-throwing shoulder.
 

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“Every time I watch him, he’s always dirty,” Bell told the Chicago Tribune. “Some guys just get dirty because they fall down a lot; some guys get dirty because they play their ass off, whether it’s going to first or anything else.

“He’s just so into every at-bat, every game. He’s always sweaty, dirty, I like that.”

Who doesn’t like that, if you’re a contending team that needs a hard-nosed player?
Even the biggest Youks fan has to admit that Youks is only valuable if he's producing. However you gauge dirt and sweat, they don't mean a whole lot without production. Right, Nick?

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2012/06/30/why-did-teams-strike-out-youkilis/8gotJg3dnv3lN8yToo3eHJ/story.html
 

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Seriously. Youk is hitting .227 with a .534 OPS with the White Sox, down from his gaudy .692 OPS with the Red Sox. For all the reasons they may be 4-2 since the trade, Youk is loooooow on that list.
 

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There are two interesting parts of that Youks piece:

1. Ken Williams is the smartest General Manager in baseball. I don't think that he's bad as a lot of people say, but he's not the "smartest". Which, in typical Cafardo fashion, Nick doesn't even bother to define other than Williams went to Stanford.

2. Cafardo makes a four or five paragraph Youkilis defense about how awesome he is and he gets a scout to back him up. Only the scout says the exact opposite, which Cafardo refutes with a "Yeah, but still ..." Then he starts talking about what a terrific guy Youks is in the clubhouse, which again is refuted by a quote from Jackie Mac's column calling Youkilis a "cancer", which again Cafardo brushes off.

The odd thing isn't the fact that Cafardo is "proven" wrong, but that he choses to use these quotes in his piece. I guess one could say that he's giving his readers both sides of the story, but it makes it seem as if he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
 

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But in defense of Nick, the whole premise of the piece is that Youk cost nothing so why not take a flier? Unless there's something we don't know, I'd agree that it was a little odd.

Incidentally, for a column I regularly kill, I still find myself hunting it down over at MLB Trade Rumors every Sunday. Not sure why exactly.
 

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The Red Sox need to get themselves a veteran third baseman who can also play first to protect themselves if Middlebrooks gets hurt or slumps.
Since quality of performance isn't mentioned -- only veteran-ness is a prerequisite -- they might as well sign Mike Lowell. Or maybe George Scott -- he started out as a third baseman.

Q: [complaint about Youkilis trade]

A:I think Cherington got what he could. I doubt he tried to make the worst deal he could. As I wrote in my Sunday Baseball Notes, I was just surprised that more teams didn't step up. He's a proven veteran player. He's on the downside, but he can still help someone. I think he would be a better fit for the Dodgers than Carlos Lee, who hasn't played competitive baseball for some time.
Carlos Lee started yesterday for the Astros. The game began at 2:20 p.m. Central time and lasted 2:23. Thus, Carlos Lee hasn't played competitive baseball in almost 24 hours. I guess technically that is "some time."

Is he suggesting that Houston's suckage since 2009 makes Lee less of a player? Did an intern compose the first four sentences of the answer before Nick added the final touch?
 

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Since quality of performance isn't mentioned -- only veteran-ness is a prerequisite -- they might as well sign Mike Lowell. Or maybe George Scott -- he started out as a third baseman.



Carlos Lee started yesterday for the Astros. The game began at 2:20 p.m. Central time and lasted 2:23. Thus, Carlos Lee hasn't played competitive baseball in almost 24 hours. I guess technically that is "some time."

Is he suggesting that Houston's suckage since 2009 makes Lee less of a player? Did an intern compose the first four sentences of the answer before Nick added the final touch?
I think there's no doubt that he's suggesting that Houston's suckage makes Lee less of a player. It's poor wording and poor reasoning, but do we expect any less of Cafardo at this point?
 

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I think there's no doubt that he's suggesting that Houston's suckage makes Lee less of a player. It's poor wording and poor reasoning, but do we expect any less of Cafardo at this point?
At least that explains why he thinks the Sox should get Felix Hernandez. :blink:
 
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