PFF's Brady in 2013 in Focus

amarshal2 · Jul 27, 2014

SeoulSoxFan said:
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/07/25/qbs-in-focus-tom-brady/

Some interesting stats that highlight the positive and negative trends in specific game situations. Especially the negatives:

Graded at -4.2 on 3rd-and-10+

Struggled on throws in the 21-to-30-yard range (-6.4) and finished at -3.6 on all throws of 20+ yards.

Graded at -4.3 on passes thrown outside the numbers to the right.

Graded at -2.4 against third down blitzes.

Struggled on drop-backs lasting 2.6 to 3.0 seconds (-3.9) and ones lasting 3.1 to 3.5 seconds (-4.6).

Graded at -3.3 on crossing routes and -1.6 on in routes.

The last point is surprising. I'd have thought crossing routes and in routes would be Brady's strengths. I'm guessing it was due to drops by KT/Dobson and Gronk's injury. Speaking of, no Hernandez & half-season Gronk contributed to this:

Only 15.1% of attempts went to tight ends; third-lowest in the league.

Hope that number changes in 2014.

They claim in the article that drops are not considered in the rating.

A lot of this jibes with what we saw, honestly. Hopefully increased comfort with his receivers and the presence of Gronk will bring the quality of Brady's throws back to where he usually is.

Phragle · Jul 27, 2014

10 sacks in 2.5 seconds or less. Compare that to Rodgers and Brees who were not sacked at all in 2.5 seconds or less.

12 of the 40 total sacks on were on play action passes.

Reverend · Jul 27, 2014

phragle said:
10 sacks in 2.5 seconds or less. Compare that to Rodgers and Brees who were not sacked at all in 2.5 seconds or less.

12 of the 40 total sacks on were on play action passes.

James White, come on down!!

dcmissle · Jul 27, 2014

Yep.

And in other news he turns 37 next Sunday and this marks his 15th season in the NFL.

RedOctober3829 · Jul 27, 2014

phragle said:
10 sacks in 2.5 seconds or less. Compare that to Rodgers and Brees who were not sacked at all in 2.5 seconds or less.

12 of the 40 total sacks on were on play action passes.

This points to how bad of a job the OL did last year. They hold the key along w/Gronk to the overall success of the offense.

Mystic Merlin · Jul 27, 2014

The interior needs some big bounceback performances or immediate contributions from the rookies.

It's concerning.

soxfan121 · Jul 27, 2014

SeoulSoxFan said:
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/07/25/qbs-in-focus-tom-brady/

Some interesting stats that highlight the positive and negative trends in specific game situations. Especially the negatives:

Struggled on throws in the 21-to-30-yard range (-6.4) and finished at -3.6 on all throws of 20+ yards.

This is the only thing, of all those listed, that won't improve significantly this season. Brady can't throw deep, and they aren't going to ask him to throw deep.

Eck'sSneakyCheese · Jul 27, 2014

soxfan121 said:
This is the only thing, of all those listed, that won't improve significantly this season. Brady can't throw deep, and they aren't going to ask him to throw deep.

He spent most of the off season tweaking his mechanics to throw a better deep ball.

Eck'sSneakyCheese · Jul 27, 2014

SeoulSoxFan said:
Unfortunately, Dobson's foot still isn't healed and even if he does, there's no true #1 on this offense. Not looking for an improvement on this area this year.

I think Stork has a real chance to improve that sacks under 2.5 sec stat however. Plus White.

Edelman, Amendola, Boyce, Vereen and White can all get downfield while Gronk and Thompkins may not be fast they can both stretch the field on play action or if the play is set up right.

Eck'sSneakyCheese · Jul 27, 2014

SeoulSoxFan said:
Hope you're right Eck, but none really can't be relied on to stretch the field. The best "downtown" years for Brady was with Moss -- there's no one even halfway close to that.

And I'd be tearing my hair out if Vereen or White is 20 yards downfield asking the OL to protect Brady for 6+ seconds.

How far was Vereen down field while being followed by a LB?

Super Nomario · Jul 27, 2014

soxfan121 said:
This is the only thing, of all those listed, that won't improve significantly this season. Brady can't throw deep, and they aren't going to ask him to throw deep.

SeoulSoxFan said:
Hope you're right Eck, but none really can't be relied on to stretch the field. The best "downtown" years for Brady was with Moss -- there's no one even halfway close to that.

And I'd be tearing my hair out if Vereen or White is 20 yards downfield asking the OL to protect Brady for 6+ seconds.

The flipside is that opposing defenses know the Pats don't have a deep threat, either ... which means they're likely to leave the deep ball open (or at least, not dedicate resources to stopping it). Periodically attempting, and hopefully hitting, the home run pass should open up the underneath stuff on a regular basis. NFL defenses won't let the Pats hit 6-yard slants all the way down the field unless the Pats make them worry about other stuff.

Reverend · Jul 27, 2014

SeoulSoxFan said:
Unfortunately, Dobson's foot still isn't healed and even if he does, there's no true #1 on this offense. Not looking for an improvement on this area this year.

I think Stork has a real chance to improve that sacks under 2.5 sec stat however. Plus White.

That's right--climb aboard the James White block and chip wagon!

5'9" 205 lbs with good hands. Sound like anyone you know?

Phragle · Jul 27, 2014

Reverend said:
James White, come on down!!

Have you made a comparison to Kevin Faulk yet?

RedOctober3829 said:
This points to how bad of a job the OL did last year. They hold the key along w/Gronk to the overall success of the offense.

Yeah that was my point. I should have stated it though.

Eck'sSneakyCheese said:
He spent most of the off season tweaking his mechanics to throw a better deep ball.

I think it's as much - if not more - his mindset and protection. If he sets his feet he's fine, but it seemed to me like a lot of the time he was off balance or rushing stuff. Probably not all his fault.

I also think he likes to put the ball where only the WR can get it too, and that leads to the overthrows.

SeoulSoxFan said:
Unfortunately, Dobson's foot still isn't healed and even if he does, there's no true #1 on this offense. Not looking for an improvement on this area this year.

I think Stork has a real chance to improve that sacks under 2.5 sec stat however. Plus White.

Yeah a lot of sacks under 2.5 are going to be from blown O-line calls and missed assignments.

Re. WRs

Antonio Brown
5'10"
186
4.48
13 BP
33 1/2"
6.98

Derrick Johnson
5'10"
186
4.47
12 BP
33"
6.60

RedOctober3829 · Jul 27, 2014

The deep ball should open up more with Gronk on the field. They'll need to dedicate a safety to him which leaves one side of the field 1-on-1. Amendola and Edelman are both very good with the deep in cuts and the seam routes down the middle. Those are just as good of "deep threats" as a prototypical speedster running 9 routes down the numbers.

Reverend · Jul 28, 2014

phragle said:
Have you made a comparison to Kevin Faulk yet?

Maaaaaaaaybe... but it comes down to this:

And it's not even as much about Faulk love as it is for the same reason you went with O-linemen in the binky thread and are, rightly I think, looking at those sack stats. They drafted a new center, they're getting Gronk back, so the final piece to keeping Brady clean is a back who can both block and who can keep the defense honest through his ability to do other things which makes rushing the passer harder.

Like many, I generally think Belichick really shines when he gets versatile players so he can disguise what he's doing.

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