The author of the article is so dumb he would most likely think V rings are located near the O ring.
Norm Siebern said:New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick is a grumpy genius. He's Gru, the super villain from "Despicable Me." And what to make of Broncos coach John Fox? He's your goofy uncle, with the easiest voice to mock since Foghorn Leghorn.But, truth be told, what does Belichick have as a head coach that Fox does not other than three Super Bowl rings, one Tom Brady and a $500,000 fine for cheating?
This is not only moronic, but incorrect. Belichick has five Super Bowl rings, not three you dumb fuck.
Dogman2 said:
Not picking on you at all but I think this is common knowledge.
dcmissle said:Is your criticism the toughness of the sanction or the burning of the tapes, or both?
Because if I send a team a memo saying "stop doing this" and the team does it anyway after receiving the memo, I have no problem with the sanction.
drleather2001 said:
Not to non-NE fans, it isn't. Tell that to a random NFL fan and they will think you are full of shit. Their first question (to bring this all together) is typically: "Then why did they get punished so harshly if it was something other teams did? That doesn't make sense. There must be more to it." From there, you have to get into Goodell being a tough guy, and Belichick being an un-remorseful dick to the league, etc... and if you aren't careful you just sound like a zealot.
It's a really hard thing to convince people of, because the truth of the matter is far more convoluted than the simple, faux "Occam's Razor" explanation that the Patriots really were doing something horrible. The conspiracy theories make more sense than the truth unless you know the entire story, and not just the 50% of it that the media reported. And that's all on Goodell, and it fucking sucks. I don't think it will ever be understood by the rank and file NFL fan/commentator/media exactly what the Patriots did in relation to the rest of the league, and what they were being punished for.
It really bears a lot of the hallmarks of a viscous smear campaign; trump up some small transgression, plaster the blown-up version all over the news, then when asked about it print a tiny retraction/clarification on page 9 of the Saturday edition 3 months later.
EDIT: I mean, honestly, if Goodell had any fucking credibility or honor, he'd fucking apologize to the Patriots and their fans for being overzealous.
drleather2001 said:
My problem is A) the ridiculous penalty of a first round draft pick, plus a fine; and B) for being less-than-forthcoming about what, exactly, the Patriots were being punished for.
It was never explained that they weren't being punished for taping signals, or for "cheating", but because they violated a league-wide memo about where the taping could occur.
Goodell should have come out at least once and said "There's been a lot of accusations being thrown around regarding the Patriots and the reason for my sanctions, let me be clear, they are not being punished for taping per se, but rather for taping in an unauthorized area. Had they been taping in the press box, this would not have been a violation."
dcmissle said:
I hear you, but when this League tells you not to do something, you are better off just not doing it rather than concocting legalistic explanations why you can. Since then, this League has dealt equally harshly with owners who don't toe the line.
Reverend said:I still have trouble believing that Belichick doesn't have copies of the tapes.
Copying video takes time, though, and if NFL investigators came through quickly he may not have been able to copy them. Especially since he considered the footage trivial and not that valuable.MentalDisabldLst said:
I think it's far more likely that he has copies than that he doesn't. BB will be retired at some point and will be thinking more about his legacy then about whether whoever's-the-commissioner-now will sue him for disclosing something that was under NDA.
drleather2001 said:
Not to non-NE fans, it isn't.
You know, is he an effete, uggs-wearing model, or is he a FOOTBALL PLAYER WHO PLAYS FOOTBALL?
Ralphwiggum said:Subtext? Have you ever read TGG.com. It ain't that subtle.
I think it's just the "are you a football player or a celebrity who happens to play football" thing.Tony C said:Right..."identity issues" is pretty explicitly homophobic, right? Or am I missing some context?