So, the Kings are going to play with only 17 skaters tonight. Kopitar is injured and they have no cap space to call up a replacement.
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Amusingly, the Kings are playing the Flyers who are currently benefiting from a league employee's LTIR space.
If the Bs had hung on to Boychuk, would they basically be in the same place post-Chara injury as the Kings?
I don't think so. Hypothetically, since they knew Chara would be out an extended period, they would just LTIR him, call up a replacement, and then send the replacement down to get cap compliant before activating Chara. I believe the issue the Kings are running into is that Kopitar's injury is in that in-between spot where it is bad enough for him to miss a few games but not severe enough to keep him out long enough to warrant a LTIR trip. That and the Voynov situation is handcuffing them.TheStoryofYourRedRightAnkle said:
soxhop411 said:
Didn't the Kings suspend him based on allegations he has denied? Please, NHL, save us from ourselves. I feel little sympathy for them.soxhop411 said:
If the NHL and Union negotiate a modification to the CBA, then great. We're not there yet. Sorry, guys.
Benefiting from a negotiated provision of the bargaining agreement? Aren't the Bruins "benefiting" from the save provisions this year and for two more after this?cshea said:
(It would have been a lot funnier if I could link Emily Litella.)soxhop411 said:
Then yeah, they should lean heavy on the NHL to get with the Union and modify the CBA.
Sure, except Savard is sitting around, playing golf and hasn't taken up employment elsewhere other than helping his sons team here and there. The team and Savard can still can make the claim that he's injured, wants to come back, but is not cleared to play. Savard's contract is slightly different too in that if he straight up retired, the cap hit goes away. That is not true for Pronger and the main reason he is still collecting paychecks from Ed Snider.Fred in Lynn said:
I have no problem with Pronger joining the league and moving on with his career, but the Flyers being able to continue benefiting from his LTIR space just doesn't seem right. The correct solution in my opinion is to have Pronger join the league office after the season and just tear up the contract and remove all cap implications. That way he's not getting paid by the Flyers, the Flyers aren't able to use his his cap space nor are they harmed by the $5 million cap charge if he were to officially retire. It's not really a big deal. It's a tough spot for the Flyers and Chris Pronger. My gripe is more with the league.
Here is a scenario, showing why they need to fix it ASAP. Lets say two players from a team that is in cap hell (Kane and Hossa) go out for the night and end up getting arrested for a crime (lets say sexual assault in this instance). They both get suspended by the NHL. Since both players would still count towards the cap, CHI would have to play two men short for (X) number of days until the legal issues are sorted out. Like the Kings I believe they do not have the cap space to call up someoneFred in Lynn said:
The NHL has voluntarily decided to punish players for actions not related to hockey, when other social mechanisms of discipline exist, e.g., the legal system. We've long established in the discussions in the NFL forum that they have this right, but that doesn't mean there are no consequences. The high moral ground should not be a place to take refuge only when not inconvenient.soxhop411 said:
By every indication, Pronger's injury is perfectly legitimate and appropriate for LTIR. It's a negotiated provision of the CBA, so I don't know what to tell you. The NHL can't unilaterally modify the CBA at their whim, even if it does make sense. I think your gripe is more with the Union. They're not going to acquiesce on guaranteed contracts one iota without getting something in return, and that would have to be something rather big.cshea said:
And I believe Ed Snider would do that tearing you described with a smile on his face.
Speaking of injured Flyers defensemen, the Flyers signed UFA Carlo Colaiacovo. I think it's pretty clear they don't want to rush Shayne Gostisbehere, since they were talking to Ryan Whitney among others and decided to go with CC (I'm wondering if I'll learn to spell him before he gets injured).
Flames up 5-1 late at the Bell Centre. Gaudreau has 2 assists. Nice start to the season for the Flames.
On the flip side the Avs are a continuing train wreck. Down 3-2 to Anaheim tonight in the second.
On the flip side the Avs are a continuing train wreck. Down 3-2 to Anaheim tonight in the second.