NFL QB, Former Ohio State Star Dwayne Haskins Has Died

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Why not just call AAA or roadside assistance to bring him gas? The whole situation is tragic and sad, but I can understand the questions about his frame of mind or mental state as his actions seem a bit bizarre.
The only people I ever knew who ran out of gas and got stuck on the road were either teenagers or college students and they had no money (back when I was a teen or college student). That being said, if I ran out of gas (not sure how I’d do that with a low gas warning light) and I was near enough to a station, my first thought would be to walk to get gas. I wouldn’t even think of calling roadside assistance.
 

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Yeah, you may be right. It seems quite possible that is the explanation here, Occam’s Razor and all. May seem crazy to others but I can imagine a scenario where one thinks that’s the quickest, easiest, cheapest way…regardless, the why doesn’t really matter at this point. A dumb decision and sadly one that cost him his life. I’m sure many of us have done far dumber things and lived; I know I have.
 

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The only people I ever knew who ran out of gas and got stuck on the road were either teenagers or college students and they had no money (back when I was a teen or college student). That being said, if I ran out of gas (not sure how I’d do that with a low gas warning light) and I was near enough to a station, my first thought would be to walk to get gas. I wouldn’t even think of calling roadside assistance.
Yeah, you may be right. It seems quite possible that is the explanation here, Occam’s Razor and all. May seem crazy to others but I can imagine a scenario where one thinks that’s the quickest, easiest, cheapest way…regardless, the why doesn’t really matter at this point. A dumb decision and sadly one that cost him his life. I’m sure many of us have done far dumber things and lived; I know I have.
If the highway was not very busy (which seems likely given that the accident happened either late at night or very early in the AM), I can see someone thinking they should be able to get across the highway just like they rush across a busy street jaywalking in a big city to beat city traffic. The problem is that a car traveling at 70 mph closes in much more quickly than many people realize, and if it was dark the distance of the traveling vehicle can be deceiving. In fact, depending upon the lighting and the terrain, it could be very easy for the pedestrian to miss the oncoming vehicle entirely until it was too late. So the cause could easily have been a momentary lapse of judgment that unfortunately cost him his life.
 

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The highway is bad enough when you're in your car, never mind out of it.

Our friend's daughter called us out of gas from a 2-lane highway at about 11 a few Saturdays ago. She was panicked, had no AAA and called us because we're just a couple of miles away. I grabbed the gas can and hooked her up, but that was fucking terrifying. One car came uncomfortably close as soon as I got started. I had the hazards on and all that, but I started thinking about what % of the drivers at that time are buzzed, looking at their phones, or both.

Got out of there as fast as possible and had a generous home-pour of whiskey as soon as I got in. I wouldn't come close to trying to cross the highway, but I'm slightly less confident in my agility than poor Haskins, was I'd bet.
 

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The highway is bad enough when you're in your car, never mind out of it.

Our friend's daughter called us out of gas from a 2-lane highway at about 11 a few Saturdays ago. She was panicked, had no AAA and called us because we're just a couple of miles away. I grabbed the gas can and hooked her up, but that was fucking terrifying. One car came uncomfortably close as soon as I got started. I had the hazards on and all that, but I started thinking about what % of the drivers at that time are buzzed, looking at their phones, or both.

Got out of there as fast as possible and had a generous home-pour of whiskey as soon as I got in. I wouldn't come close to trying to cross the highway, but I'm slightly less confident in my agility than poor Haskins, was I'd bet.
This is why I’ve all but given up cycling in recent years. About 10, 15 years ago texting and driving didn’t seem as common as it is today. It’s way out of control and I’ve had way too many close encounters while on my bike, especially on low-traffic roads (which I know seems counterintuitive) because people get bored easier while they’re driving and go for their phones.

I actually feel slightly safer riding in heavy traffic than moderate or low traffic because drivers in heavy traffic are forced to pay closer attention to the road.
 

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He was legally drunk, in the range of 0.20 - 0.24

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33971836/dwayne-haskins-was-legally-drunk-death-according-toxicology-report

According to the toxicology report, two separate samples taken from Haskins' body had alcohol levels of .20 and .24, both of which are above the legal limit in Florida of .08. According to the report, Haskins also tested positive for ketamine and norketamine, drugs that are used by medical professionals as anesthetics but that also have been known to be used recreationally.
 

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He was legally drunk, in the range of 0.20 - 0.24

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33971836/dwayne-haskins-was-legally-drunk-death-according-toxicology-report

According to the toxicology report, two separate samples taken from Haskins' body had alcohol levels of .20 and .24, both of which are above the legal limit in Florida of .08. According to the report, Haskins also tested positive for ketamine and norketamine, drugs that are used by medical professionals as anesthetics but that also have been known to be used recreationally.
Well, ketamine is also a treatment for depression so who knows?
 

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Isn't ketamine usually used in a controlled environment for treatment for depression, though? It's not something you take at home, you take it in a doctor's office.
I take it orally, for pain, and in very small doses (5mg). That is not typical though. As I understand it, the typical experience is as you say: a drip in a doctor’s office. High enough dose to induce hallucinations.
 

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Isn't ketamine usually used in a controlled environment for treatment for depression, though? It's not something you take at home, you take it in a doctor's office.
Yes. But I only meant that it was possible he was prescribed/taking ketamine for depression. In someone who may have suicided I wouldn’t assume ketamine/metabolite In their system = substance abuse.
 

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As I'm sure you know, Ketamine is also used for spiking drinks. Would be terrible if that were the case here.

Edit: This came out 2 days ago:

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/police-issue-warning-after-several-reports-of-drugged-drinks-at-cape-cod-bars/2729126/
Probably a topic for another thread, but my wife and her coworkers are in some FB/Insta groups for young women around Boston, and apparently there has been a lot of discussion there about a significant surge in people (primarily women) getting roofied in Boston. It's a real problem here, but it's possible that if it is some new, harder-to-detect/easier-to-apply drug combo, it could be happening in other cities, too.
 

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We did Ketamine (a.k.a. Special K) all of the time in college. We called it going into the "K-hole". Definitely something you wouldn't want to mix with alcohol. Vets used to use it as a tranquilizer.
 

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We did Ketamine (a.k.a. Special K) all of the time in college. We called it going into the "K-hole". Definitely something you wouldn't want to mix with alcohol. Vets used to use it as a tranquilizer.
Yeah, ketamine and alcohol are a terrible mix. Vomitous. As I discovered at my sister’s wedding. Not something an experienced partier would likely do. Who knows?
 

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He was driving drunk with an unknown female at 6:30 in the morning. All the while his wife was tracking his phone and calling police. I feel the worst for her.
 

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Ketamine generally clears out of a person’s system in 12 hours, but traces may be detectable for a week or two thereafter. This info is intended for ketamine patients worried about employer drug testing; postmortem tests used by a medical examiner might be different.

https://www.ketamineinfusionkansascity.com/will-ketamine-show-up-on-my-drug-test/

I would hope the news about Hopkins and ketamine would have been reported differently if the test turned up only a tiny amount consistent with treatment for depression, or even earlier recreational use, as opposed to suggesting use in the hours immediately prior to his death.