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BigJimEd

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No, it appears that the formula is primarily built on contracts, so someone like Brady is a comp pick no matter what, however on some of the edge cases they bump a guy up if he plays enough snaps. So Roberts, whose contract was minimal, might have gotten bumped up to mattering if he played enough snaps.

That makes sense to me, contract is the primary decider, but if you lose a guy to a low contract, but he plays like 40% of his new team's snaps (Roberts was just under) they take into account that perhaps his low salary wasn't reflective and move him in.
OK. Thanks. I understand what you're saying now. I was too focused on Allen. Roberts was basically on the bubble and enough guys were able to move ahead of Roberts that he no longer counted. Still don't like it but makes more sense.
 

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OK. Thanks. I understand what you're saying now. I was too focused on Allen. Roberts was basically on the bubble and enough guys were able to move ahead of Roberts that he no longer counted. Still don't like it but makes more sense.
This was posted on the previous page but it's worth perusing. Here's the relevant section

https://overthecap.com/the-basics-and-methodology-of-projecting-the-nfls-compensatory-draft-picks/
  1. Start with the Average Per Year (APY) of the contract signed.
  2. Subtract from the APY any money that the compensatory formula does not count3.
  3. Rank these players by adjusted APY in descending order, and assign points to each player, equal to [number of leaguewide players]-[rank].
  4. Add anywhere from 25 to 100 points for players who played a percentage of snaps on offense or defense in the range of 25% to 100%. (Kickers and punters are given a different point addition unrelated to snap counts.)
  5. Add 20 or 5 points for postseason honors as determined by the AP’s All Pro list, and the PFWA’s All NFL/All Conference list.
 

BigJimEd

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This was posted on the previous page but it's worth perusing. Here's the relevant section

https://overthecap.com/the-basics-and-methodology-of-projecting-the-nfls-compensatory-draft-picks/
Thanks. I've looked at that before but apparently not closely enough. I didn't realize the count of FA lost was affected by the rankings. To me, it should be more hard/fast rule so teams know when they are signing and losing players who counts. They could still do rankings after the season to determine where picks fall.

FWIW, OTC projections had the Pats getting a 3rd and two 4ths so they were one of the ones that were off in their calculations.
 

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The compensatory picks discussion obscures another evidence of Belichickian brilliance—who else can turn a 6th into a 3rd?
 

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It has certainly been a source of replacement as part of his "cut early instead of late mantra". Cut a player now while expensive and likely to fall off the cliff and use the comp picks to replace 90% of that cut player at 40% of the cost over the next few years. It works.
 
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It has certainly been a source of replacement as part of his "cut early instead of late mantra". Cut a player now while expensive and likely to fall off the cliff and use the comp picks to replace 90% of that cut player at 40% of the cost over the next few years. It works.
To be clear, cut players do not enter into the comp pick formula. The contract has to expire.
 

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Paying good running backs that kind of money is just insane. He's good for sure, but...$12 million a year? Ugh.
 

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Paying good running backs that kind of money is just insane. He's good for sure, but...$12 million a year? Ugh.
After tossing a 2nd rounder on a running back last year, no less. Seems like they planned for his departure only to say f*** it despite not having cap space. Pretty surprising, regardless of the contract details.
 

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After tossing a 2nd rounder on a running back last year, no less. Seems like they planned for his departure only to say f*** it despite not having cap space. Pretty surprising, regardless of the contract details.
Wonder if Rodgers had some say here.
 

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Help me out with something. FA begins on St Patty's ( I think) but is it correct that the negotiation window starts tomorrow? If negotiations (non-tampering anyway) start tomorrow, can something like "agreements in principle" be announced before the 17th or do we have to wait?
 

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Help me out with something. FA begins on St Patty's ( I think) but is it correct that the negotiation window starts tomorrow? If negotiations (non-tampering anyway) start tomorrow, can something like "agreements in principle" be announced before the 17th or do we have to wait?
I don't think anything gets "announced," but like, say, the Goff-Stafford trade, things get leaked and "known"
 

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I don't think anything gets "announced," but like, say, the Goff-Stafford trade, things get leaked and "known"
That is what I mean. So news can happen as soon as tomorrow? Has it always been like this? I felt like I used to really have to wait until FA started to hear good stuff.
 

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That is what I mean. So news can happen as soon as tomorrow? Has it always been like this? I felt like I used to really have to wait until FA started to hear good stuff.
The whole "legal tampering" thing opened Pandora's box
 

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That is what I mean. So news can happen as soon as tomorrow? Has it always been like this? I felt like I used to really have to wait until FA started to hear good stuff.
It can happen is a couple of minutes I think.
 

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Noon ET Monday is when the window opens. Isn't it the NBA that does free agent midnight madness?

Get some rest we‘re an hour down after the time shift.
Well, shit. I do believe the year Rex signed Bart Scott it was a midnight thing, maybe I’m misremembering.
 

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It’s been rumored for about a year now, but Brees just made it official on the Today show that he is joining NBC as an analyst for SNF pre-game and Notre Dame.
 
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It’s been rumored for about a year now, but Brees just made it official on the Today show that he is joining NBC as an analyst for SNF pre-game and Notre Dame.
I like Brees alot for these roles. I think he could end up being a fantastic SNF/MNF guy. This is a great way to get his feet wet with "smaller" roles.
 

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Washington will be the 9th team Fitzpatrick has started for. Never made the playoffs. What a wild career.
He was really close with the Jets. 10-6 in 2015 winning 5 in a row before losing last game of season to miss playoffs. He was close with Fish last year but didn’t start all the games so not quite the same.
 

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Disappointed with the move to Prime for TNF. I love Netflix but the 'live events on 30 second delay' experience of streaming sports leaves something to be desired.
 

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Not every culture is going to fit every player. We've certainly heard from guys that hated it, but we've also seen Van Noy and Chung and Brown happy to come back. Jimmy Butler didn't fit in Minnesota, but is in a great place in Miami. Good for Moore that he found a place he's happy playing.
 

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JuJu Smith Schuster resigns with Pittsburgh for 1 year 8 million. The patriots mismanaged the WR market.
Did they? I mean, they got the players they wanted on multi-year deals. That some guys took 1 year deals elsewhere doesn't really effect that(also Juju allegedly took quite a bit less money to stay in PIT, much like Andrews stayed at a discount). If Golladay signs for like 3/36 with 22M guaranteed I'll think they mismanaged, otherwise it looks like they picked 2 WRs with different roles that they liked and got them on reasonable multi-year deals.