New & Improved: The 2021 Pats Draft Contest!

mwonow

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Hey, draftniks – it’s that time again! And this time, @SMU_Sox has helped define a better-than-before draft contest approach, one that plays out in two parts.

As in past years, you get to pick 20 players for the Pats. Please submit these as last name, first name, position, school. There aren’t any official points for adding comments on why you think a player would be a good fit, but I always like reading them…

With respect to the contest itself: Part 1 gets settled on May 4. At that point, all the draft choices will have been selected (from Apr 29-May 1), and the Pats will have had 72 hours to sign UDFAs. In a twist, this year, points are being weighted towards the top of the draft, to reward SoSHers who see best-fit prospects who can contribute immediately the same way BB does:
  • If you correctly pick a Pats first round draft choice: 4 points
  • If you correctly pick a Pats second round draft choice: 3 points
  • If you correctly pick a Pats day three draft choice: 2 points
  • If you correctly pick a UDFA who signs with the Pats: 2 points
  • BONUS! If you are one of only one or two people who pick someone who the Pats select/sign, you get an additional point for being uniquely clued in.
$50 to the Jimmy Fund in the name of the person who scores highest in Part 1. If two SoSHers tie, the first person to submit final picks is the winner.

Now – the all-new part 2! Sticking with the “best fits matter” theme, in Part 2, you get 5 points for everyone you picked who makes the initial 53 roster. Again, $50 to the Jimmy Fund in the name of the winner, with ties going to whoever submitted their picks first.

Looking forward to exercising my credit card for a good cause, and to making y'all feel better with my own picks and score...
 

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Woot! I know how I'm spending my day! I'll keep this here as a placeholder and edit throughout the day and over the next 2.5 weeks

Going somewhat top heavy here in rounds 1-2

Last Name First Name Position School
Brown Tre CB Oklahoma
Horn Jaycee CB South Carolina
Molden Elijah CB Washington
Paye Kwity EDGE Michigan
Barmore Christian IDL Alabama
Shelvin Tyler IDL Louisiana State
Wilson Marvin IDL Florida State
Collins Zaven ILB/OLB Tulsa
Smith Trey OG Tennessee
Jenkins Teven OG/OT Oklahoma State
Leatherwood Alex OG/OT Alabama
Darrisaw Christian OT Virginia Tech
Fields Justin QB Ohio State
Trask Kyle QB Florida
Carter Michael RB North Carolina
Eskridge D’Wayne WR Western Michigan
Moore Elijah WR Mississippi
Moore Rondale WR Purdue
Palmer Josh WR Tennessee
Ra St. Brown Amon WR Southern California
 
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mwonow

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Living proof that my reading skills are better than my comprehension skills...
I have my big board up. I added projected role and a scheme fit from 1-5. I did my initial 234 players. I will fill in another 20-30 as we go but they will most likely be day 3 guys.

Darden is one of my favorites. Big fan of a lot of the same guys you all mentioned. Rashad Weaver is another. Landon Dickerson is one of my favorite players in the draft from a tape perspective.

Of the guys I have a day 3 grade on (6.49 - flashes starter starter traits) I love Cameron McGrone. He is a home run swing on an athletic linebacker who loves crashing downhill. He can stack and shed well. He's young and somewhat inexperienced but if you gave him a year to develop he has dominant physical traits. Rhamondre Stevenson and Michael Carter would make a nice day 3 backfield duo. Carter would make a perfect White replacement and would offer more as a runner. I also like Kylin Hill for that role. Jimmy Morrissey if he can add enough functional strength is a really good athlete and excels at making blocks at the next level. KJ Britt and Derrick Barnes could be late day 3 STers and downhill thumper LBs. Joshua Kaindoh, Elerson Smith, Shaka Toney, and Jordan Smith could be day 3 pass rushers who have better than a snowballs chance in hell for working out. I also really like Marvin Wilson as a run stuffer. There are some NTs they might want to double-dip on too. Oh last one is Charles Snowden. I think he is going to be a quality 3-4 OLB/ILB hybrid player.
I went through @SMU_Sox list, and picked none of the guys (except Dickerson, tbf) that he highlighted. Instead, I went for the seldom-used 'pick 20 guys from 20 different schools!' approach.

Sure, that's probably not a great selection filter. But heck, it can't hurt my overall success, based on past results.

Here's what I've got. Looking forward to seeing what those of you who are way more clued in than I am think!

Fields Justin QB Ohio State Okay, chances are slim, but I'm hopeful
Horn Jaycee CB South Carolina If the Pats stay at 15, Horn might be BPA
Jenkins Teven OL Oklahoma St. In case BPA comes with a "…who can crush other large humans" qualifier
Dickerson Landon OL Alabama Better than hs QB, and nobody is trading up to 3 to take him
Collins Zaven LB Tulsa I really wanted to type 'Micah Parsons' here, but I don't know about the 'character questions'
Parsons Micah LB Penn State On second thought, John's got an 8.25 on him. Git 'er done, Bill!
Meinerz Quinn OL Wisconsin-Whitewater Hedging my 'nasty interior OL' bets in case Jenkins and Dickerson go early
McNeil Alim DL NC State Upgrading Butler
Odeyingbo Dayo DL Vanderbilt Pressure from the edge is good - so is the prospect of singing "Day-o!" at my TV
Joseph Kelvin CB Kentucky Chance to be a factor on ST and maybe work his way into the defensive rotation over time
Cisco Andre S Syracuse On the theory that tackling is easier to coach than range
Mills Davis QB Stanford The Pats need to draft a QB, right? And Fields won't make it to them? I get this wrong every year.
Brown III Bobby NT Texas A&M I think the biggest gap on the Pats D is a very large human in the middle of the DL
Rumph II Chris LB/ST Duke I'm in my "Roman numerals" phase. It will pass.
Stevenson Rhamondre RB Oklahoma I had never heard of this guy until I read John's writeup. Now, I'm sold!
Shelvin Tyler DT LSU Another 'larger person in the middle of the DL' pick
Collins Nico WR Michigan The Pats need WRs, and Collins is a WR who will still be on the board when they look for one
Wiggins James S Cincinnati Like Kelvin, a guy who might stick on ST as he works towards a spot on D
Camp Jalen WR Georgia Tech Like Wiggins, a chance to make the club on ST and then develop into a pro WR
Hufanga Talanoa S USC Great name, and completes my '20 schools in 20 picks' thing
 

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Horn, Jaycee, CB, South Carolina
Parsons, Micah, LB, Penn State
Jenkins, Teven, OT, OSU
Davis, Jamin, LB, Kentuky
Carter, Michael, RB, North Carolina
Rodgers, Amari, WR, Clemson
Trask, Kyle, QB, Florida
McGrone, Cameron, LB, Mich
McNeill, Alim, DL, NC State
Elkridge, D'Wayne, WR, Western Michigan
Gillespie, Tyree, S, Missouri
Collins, Nico, WR, Mich
Williams, Trill, CB, Syracuse
Brown, Spencer, OT, Northern Iowa
Johnson, Jamar, S, Indiana
Snowden, Charles, LB, Virginia
Smith-Marsette, Ihmir, WR, Iowa
Mond, Kellen, QB, Texas A&M
Williams, Milton, DT, Louisiana Tech
Tremble, Tommy, TE, Notre Dame

Edit: Removed Zaven Collins. Added Trask.
Edit2: I am an idiot. Removed second Trask entry. Added Tommy Tremble.

Just missed my list: Humphrey, Creed, C, Oklahoma
 
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Horn, Jaycee, CB, South Carolina
Parsons, Micah, LB, Penn State
Jenkins, Teven, OT, OSU
Collins, Zaven, LB, Tulsa
Davis, Jamin, LB, Kentuky
Carter, Michael, RB, North Carolina
Rodgers, Amari, WR, Clemson
Task, Kyle, QB, Florida
McGrone, Cameron, LB, Mich
McNeill, Alim, DL, NC State
Elkridge, D'Wayne, WR, Western Michigan
Gillespie, Tyree, S, Missouri
Collins, Nico, WR, Mich
Williams, Trill, CB, Syracuse
Brown, Spencer, OT, Northern Iowa
Johnson, Jamar, S, Indiana
Snowden, Charles, LB, Virginia
Smith-Marsette, Ihmir, WR, Iowa
Mond, Kellen, QB, Texas A&M
Williams, Milton, DT, Louisiana Tech



Just missed my list: Humphrey, Creed, C, Oklahoma
A Jamin and a Jamar (plus a Trill) - that's a rockin' group!
 

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Fields, Justin QB OSU
McNeill, Alim, DL, NC State
Eskridge, D'Wayne, WR, Western Michigan
Moore, Elijah WR, Ole Miss
McGrone, Cameron LB, Michigan
Smith-Marsette, Ihmir WR, Iowa
Davis, Jamin LB, UK
Meinerz, Quinn G/C Wisconisn-WhiteWater
Banks, Aaron G Notre Dame
Newman, Jaime, QB Georgia
Graham Jr, Thomas CB Oregon
Sample, Cam DL Tulane
Adebo, Paulson CB Stanford
Hill, Kylin RB MS St.
Deablo, Divine, S VA Tech
Werner, Pete LB OSU
Marshall, Jonathan DT Arkansas
Cleveland, Ben OG, Georgia
Rice, Monty, LB Georgia
Vera-Tucker, Alijah OL, USC
 

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Last Name First Name Position School Notes
Fields Justin QB OSU Maybe if he slips to 7, but not likely
Pitts Kyle TE/WR Florida If he slips to 9, again not likely
Farley Caleb CB Virginia Tech Take him if he and Horn are there at 15
Horn Jaycee CB S. Carolina Not a bad 1B
Collins Zaven LB Tulsa If they trade down from 15
Williams Javonte RB N. Carolina Would they take a RB early? Other options later
Dickerson Landon C/OG Alabama Could be there at 46
Moore Elijah WR Mississippi 2nd round target
Davis Jamin LB Kentucky Add some weight and we've got a player
Johnson Cade WR South Dakota State Slot receiver to replace Jules
McNeill Alim DL NC State Slim IDL class but could be a good fit
Stevenson Rhamondre RB Oklahoma More likely to be picked by NEP than Williams
Mills Davis QB Stanford It's possible they don't go QB this draft, but Davis is an option if they move on from Stid
Fehoko Simi WR Stanford Freak athlete, will need to be coached up
Shelvin Tyler DL LSU BIG body
Morrisey Jimmy C Pittsburgh SMU_Sox seal of approval
Brown Tre CB Oklahoma Special teamer/return specialist
Browning Baron LB OSU Versatile
Brown III Bobby DL Texas A&M Another huge DL that they need
Eskridge D'Wayne WR Western Michigan See Morrisey, Jimmy
 

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Rondale Moore WR Purdue Phil Perry's podcast and conversation with him convinced me he's a Belichick fit. Could see a trade down here.
Christian Darrisaw OT Virginia Tech Because of course a first round Tackle will actually happen.
Creed Humphrey C Oklahoma
Christian Barmore DT Alabama BEAST
Dyami Brown WR North Carolina
Michael Carter RB North Carolina Planning for the red shirt year and subsequent post-James White era.
Tay Gowan CB UCF
Brady Christensen OT BYU
Justin Hilliard LB Ohio State
Chris Evans RB Michigan
Bobby Brown III DL Texas A&M
Mark Gilbert CB Duke
Ifeatu Melifonwu CB Syracuse Obi needs a friend* (after he comes back in a Jimmy G package)
Zaven Collins LB Miami
Kadarius Toney WR Florida
Alex Leatherwood OT Alabama
Jevon Holland CB Oregon
Jaycee Horn CB So. Carolina
Rashod Bateman** WR Minnesota
Asante Samuel Jr CB Florida St

*Lapsed that Obi is gone.
**Can't keep track, updated!
 
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Rondale Moore WR Purdue Phil Perry's podcast and conversation with him convinced me he's a Belichick fit. Could see a trade down here.
Christian Darrisaw OT Virginia Tech Because of course a first round Tackle will actually happen.
Creed Humphrey C Oklahoma
Christian Barmore DT Alabama BEAST
Dyami Brown WR North Carolina
Michael Carter RB North Carolina Planning for the red shirt year and subsequent post-James White era.
Tay Gowan CB UCF
Brady Christensen OT BYU
Justin Hilliard LB Ohio State
Chris Evans RB Michigan
Bobby Brown III DL Texas A&M
Mark Gilbert CB Duke
Ifeatu Melifonwu CB Syracuse Obi needs a friend* (after he comes back in a Jimmy G package)
Zaven Collins LB Miami
Kadarius Toney WR Florida
Alex Leatherwood OT Alabama
Jevon Holland CB Oregon
Jaycee Horn CB So. Carolina
Kadarius Toney WR Florida
Asante Samuel Jr CB Florida St
Only 19 guys (you have Toney twice).
 

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Darrisaw, Christian, OT, Virginia Tech
Moehrig, Trevon, S, TCU
Cox, Jabril, LB, LSU
Johnson, Jamar, S, Indiana
Tremble, Tommy, TE, Notre Dame
Werner, Pete, LB, Ohio State
Gainwell, Kenneth, HB, Memphis
Long, Hunter, TE, Boston College
Cooper, Jonathan, EDGE, Ohio State
Powell, Cornell, WR, Clemson
Rochell, Robert, CB, Central Arkansas
Hudson, James, OT, Cincinnati
Smith, Shi, WR, South Carolina
Gray, Noah, TE, Duke
Snowden, Charles, EDGE, Virginia
Bates, John, TE, Boise State
Adams, Jonathan Jr., WR, Arkansas State
Moses, Dylan, LB, Alabama
Brightwell, Gary, HB, Arizona
Graham, Ta’Quon, DT, Texas
 
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Brown, Spencer, OT, Northern Iowa
Cleveland, Ben, OG, Georgia
Cox, Jabril, LB, LSU
Farley, Caleb, DB, Va Tech
Felton, Demetric, RB/WR/KR, UCLA, binky
Golston, Chauncey, Iowa, DE
Hubbard, Chuba, RB, Oklahoma State
Jones, Mac, QB, Alabama
Little, Walker, OT, Stanford
McGrone, Cameron, LB, Michigan
Moehrig, Trevor, S, TCU
Moses, Dylan, LB, Alabama
Myers, Josh, C, tOSU
Odeyingbo, Dayo, Edge, Vanderbilt
Owuso-Koramoah, Jeremiah LB, Notre Dame
Radunz, Dillon OT, NDSU
Rochell, Robert CB, UCA
Smith, Devonta WR, Alabama, Edelman replacement
Surratt, Chazz LB, UNC, Chess Player
Vincent, Kary Jr., CB, LSU
 

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Basham, Carlos, Edge, Wake Forest
Bateman, Rashad, WR, Minnesota
Blankenship, Reed, S, Middle Tennessee
Borregales, Jose, K, Miami
Campbell, Tyson, CB, UGA
Jenkins, Tevin, OL, Oklahoma State
Eskridge, Dwayne, WR, Western Michigan
Horn, Jaycee, CB, South Carolina
Mills, Davis, QB, Stanford
Moehrig, Trevon, S, TCU
Molden, Elijah, CB, Washington
Mond, Kellen, QB, Texas A&M
Moore, Elijah, WR, Ole Miss
Newman, Jaime, QB, Wake Forest
Robinson, Aaron, CB, UCF
Kinley, Cameron CB USNA
Slater, Rashan, OL, Northwestern
Toney, Kadarius, WR, Florida
Williams, Javonte, RB, UNC
White, Brandon, S, Rutgers
 
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Barmore, Christian DT Alabama
Campbell, Tyson CB Georgia
Carman, Jackson OT Clemson
Darden, Jaelon WR North Texas
Fields, Justin QB OSU
Franks, Feleipe QB Arkansas
Graham, Ta'Quon DT Texas
Hudson, James OT Cincy
Lance, Trey QB NDSU
Nasirildeen, Hamsah S FSU
Newman, Jamie QB Georgia
Nwangwu, Kene RB Iowa State
Parsons, Micah LB Penn State
Paye, Kwity EDGE Michigan
Smith, Jordan EDGE UAB
Surratt, Chaz LB UNC
Wiggins, James S Cincinnati
Williams, Pooka RB Kansas
Williams, Trill CB Syracuse
Wilson, Marvin DT FSU
 

SMU_Sox

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Think this is my final. Had to put in Fields and Lance because one can only hope!

1) Robert Rochell, CB, Central Arkansas: He has the measurables they like including a 6.84 3-cone and 4.08 SS. He is a press-man type he just needs coaching. Great in run support.
2) Eric Stokes, CB, UGA: Press-man type. High level of competition. Has speed for days. Needs to add strength.
3) Benjamin St. Juste, CB, Minnesota: He has the 3-cone and length they want. He is a good tackler and willing and able in run support.
4) Trey Lance, QB, NDSU
5) Zech McPhearson, CB, Texas Tech: He can play inside or outside in any scheme. Has elite athleticism but not top end speed. Great STer too.
6) Stone Forsythe, OT, Florida: He is a... stone wall in pass pro. His issues are he is so tall that he lacks leverage in the run game. Might not ever be good there.
7) Spencer Brown, OT, Northern Iowa: He is a superb athlete with great length and size. He reminds me a lot of Vollmer. He just needs a ton of technique work.
8) Larnel Coleman, OT, U-Mass: Was a basketball player and D-end in high school. He is long, tall, strong and athletic. Huge ceiling but needs to develop. Intangibles out the ass and a real film junkie. Still relatively new to the game and will need a year.
8) Brady Christensen, OL, BYU: You want to meet Joe Thuney 2.0? Look no further. He can also, likely, play center. I absolutely love Christensen.
9) Landon Young, OT, Kentucky: Big, long, and strong. He's the bargain basement version of Forsythe.
10) Trey Smith, OG/OT, Tennessee: He played LT as a freshman but needs coaching to really cultivate his excellent athleticism. He is huge, tested off the charts, and oozes power. OG/OT type.
11) Tre Brown, CB, Oklahoma. He’s a smaller guy who probably plays slot but handled guys on the outside. Great tackler and good in the run game. Will be a core 4 STer. Nice ball skills.
12) Justin Fields, QB, Ohio State
13) Michael Carter, RB, UNC: He is the lightning to Harris' thunder. He is also our James White replacement but an even better runner. Michael Carter is one of my favorite guys in this draft and a perfect fit.
14) Trey Sermon, RB, The Ohio State: Sermon/Carter/Harris is a fantastic trio.
15) Khalil Herbert, RB, Virginia Tech: Electric back who is deadly to the outside and reminds me of Dalvin Cook a bit. Would be another lightning and flashed as a receiver.
16) Jermar Jefferson, RB, Oregon State: He is an outside compliment to Harris and would excel in a gap scheme where his speed will show.
17) Marlon Tuipulotu, IDL, USC: Amazing run stuffer and 3-4 base end type who can do 3-tech too.
18) Marvin Wilson, IDL, Florida State: another very good run stuffer and who has a ton of power.
19) Levi Onwuzurike, IDL, Washington: explosive 3-tech who would replace Butler. Still learning pass-rush moves but plays a lot like Adam Butler.
20) Osa Odighizuwa, IDL/Edge, UCLA: He is an explosive guy who could be a smaller base end, edge, 3-tech, or IDL.
 
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1) Lance, Trey, QB, NDSU
2) Fields, Justin, QB, The yadda yadda yadda
3) Moore, Elijah, WR, Ole Miss
4) Stokes, Eric, CB, Georgia
5) Samuel Jr, Asante, CB, FSU
6) Snowden, Charles, ILB/OLB, Virginia
7) Johnson, Cade, WR, SDS
8) Johnson, Jamar, S, Indiana
9) Palmer, Josh, WR, Tennessee
10) Hainsey, Robert, OC/OG, Notre Dame
11) Browning, Baron, ILB/OLB, The yadda yadda yadda
12) Powell, Cornell, WR, Clemson
13) Brown III, Bobby, NT, Texas A&M
14) Moore, David, OG/OC, Grambling State
15) Paye, Kwity EDGE Michigan
16) Rhamondre Stevenson, RB, Oklahoma
17) Toney, Shaka, EDGE, PSU
18) Hill, Kylin, RB, MSU
19) Lenoir, Deommodore, CB/S, Oregon
20) Phillips, Antonio, CB, Ball State
 
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mwonow

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1) Justin Fields, QB, THE Ohio State University
2) Justin Fields, QB, THE Ohio State University
3) Justin Fields, QB, THE Ohio State University
4) Justin Fields, QB, THE Ohio State University
5) Justin Fields, QB, THE Ohio State University
6) Justin Fields, QB, THE Ohio State University
7) Justin Fields, QB, THE Ohio State University
8) Justin Fields, QB, THE Ohio State University
9) Justin Fields, QB, THE Ohio State University
10) Justin Fields, QB, THE Ohio State University
11) Trey Lance, QB, NDSU
12) Trey Lance, QB, NDSU
13) Trey Lance, QB, NDSU
14) Trey Lance, QB, NDSU
15) Trey Lance, QB, NDSU
16) Trey Lance, QB, NDSU
17) Trey Lance, QB, NDSU
18) Trey Lance, QB, NDSU
19) Trey Lance, QB, NDSU
20) Trey Lance, QB, NDSU
Interesting - I'll have to check with 'the judge' to see if we pay off 10x if a player is named ten times and picked once...
 

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1) Justin Fields, QB, THE Ohio State University
2) Justin Fields, QB, THE Ohio State University
3) Justin Fields, QB, THE Ohio State University
4) Justin Fields, QB, THE Ohio State University
5) Justin Fields, QB, THE Ohio State University
6) Justin Fields, QB, THE Ohio State University
7) Justin Fields, QB, THE Ohio State University
8) Justin Fields, QB, THE Ohio State University
9) Justin Fields, QB, THE Ohio State University
10) Justin Fields, QB, THE Ohio State University
11) Trey Lance, QB, NDSU
12) Trey Lance, QB, NDSU
13) Trey Lance, QB, NDSU
14) Trey Lance, QB, NDSU
15) Trey Lance, QB, NDSU
16) Trey Lance, QB, NDSU
17) Trey Lance, QB, NDSU
18) Trey Lance, QB, NDSU
19) Trey Lance, QB, NDSU
20) Trey Lance, QB, NDSU
I know you love Fields. Would you rather trade up at greater cost and get Fields or trade up at slightly lesser cost to get Lance?
 

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  • If you correctly pick a Pats first round draft choice: 4 points
  • If you correctly pick a Pats second round draft choice: 3 points
  • If you correctly pick a Pats day three draft choice: 2 points
  • If you correctly pick a UDFA who signs with the Pats: 2 points
  • BONUS! If you are one of only one or two people who pick someone who the Pats select/sign, you get an additional point for being uniquely clued in.
Thanks, @mwonow ... how many points for 3rd rounders? [I did have Asiasi last year, after all...]
 

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Kind of a placeholder. Didn't feel the need to add any TEs with what we already have. So, weird to say after the last couple years.


Fields, Justin QB OSU: Watching tapes of his pocket awareness is a little frightening but the talent overall is undeniable.
Mond, Kellen QB T A&M: If they don't go QB in the first I see them going with Mond. I think his arm is better than he's given credit for.
Gainwell, Kenneth HB Memphis: Electric football player. Might be redundant if they're all in on JJ Taylor.
Collins, Nico WR Michigan: Big athletic WR that was underutilized in college.
Imatorbhebhe, Josh WR Illinois: Has size, strength speed and ridiculous athletic ability. Needs coaching.
Fehoko, Simi WR Stanford: I think you're probably seeing a trend in my WR selection.
Adams Jr., Jonathan WR Ark St: See above.
Jenkins, Teven OT OK St: We've all seen the tape.
Forsythe, Stone OT Florida: Swing tackle who could develop into a starter on either side.
Hoge, Tristen G BYU: Strong, mean and versatile. His chin alone could take on oncoming defenders.
Barmore, Christian NT Alabama: Disruptive interior defensive linemen. Exactly what this defense needs.
Tufele, Jay DT USC: Everything I've seen and read about this kid he plays like he gets shot out of a cannon every snap.
Rashed Jr, Hamilcar DL Oregon: Athletic and relentless. Needs coaching to refine technique.
Toney, Shaka DL Penn St: The forgotten Penn State pass rusher. Undersized for DE/EDGE but not LB. High athleticism and motor.
Collins, Zaven LB Tulsa: Can literally do it all from the LB position.
Moses, Dylan LB Alabama: Read a review that called him a heat seeking missile. Yes.
Brown, Shakur CB Mich St: Tough corner with great ball skills.
Samuel Jr, Asante CB FSU: His dad was one of my favorite players. Oh, and this kid is pretty good too.
Thompson, Tariq S SD St: Ballhawking safety. Would be great mirroring TE's as he's quicker than he is fast.
Breeze, Brady S Oregon: Pretty much just the name. Reminds me of Larry Izzo.
 
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mwonow

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2 pts this year in "part 1,' plus another 5 in 'part 2' if (as was the case with Asiasi) you pick makes the initial 53. Asiasi got you 3 last year, but @SMU_Sox (rightly, IMO) wanted to shift focus on the guys who are most likely to have a real role with the team.

Edit - sorry, responding to @Mugsy's Jock . @Eck'sSneakyCheese, thanks for your comments. Another Larry Izzo would be great!
 
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SMU_Sox

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I know you love Fields. Would you rather trade up at greater cost and get Fields or trade up at slightly lesser cost to get Lance?
I think there is an argument that there isn't that big of a gap between Fields and Lawrence and I am prepared to die on that hill for my Fields. Like Lamar he has become my favorite player in the draft. Now he won't be my top ranked guy... but Fields is my adopted son.

Depends on the greatness of the cost and what you mean by slightly lesser. I see both guys as potential top 5-10 at their position so I would give up a future 1st to get one of them back. I think though I would rather give up more to take Fields. You can't teach that kind of accuracy. You can't teach that kind of build and ability as a runner. Oh and unlike other dual-threats you could make an argument he hung in the pocket too much and could have scrambled more!

With Lance I think you can improve his accuracy enough that combined with his processing and ability to run he can be like a Cam Newton in his prime.

Don't get me wrong - these are QBs. They are fraught with risk. But not many QBs coming out have their talent and skillsets.

So I guess the right answer is to pay less for Lance and to have resources to spend at other positions like OT, IDL, RB, and CB. It just depends on how much is greater cost and slightly less.

For example if I can get Lance for 15, 46 and a future 2 and I can get Fields for 15, 46, and a future 1 I would just take Fields. However if it is 15 46 and a future 1 for Fields vs 15, 96, and a future 2/3 for Lance I would take Lance.
 
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Hillard, Justin LB OSU
Parsons, Micah LB Penn
Surratt, Chazz LB UNC
Newman, Jamie QB Georgia
Moehrig, Trevon S TCU
Grant, Richie S UCF
Bateman, Rashod WR Minn
Moore, Elijah WR Miss
Jenkins, Tevin OL OSU
Mayfield, Jaylen OL Mich
Cleveland, Ben OL Georgia
Little, Walker OL Stan
Cosmi, Samuel OL Texas
Campbell, Tyson DB Georgia
Robinson, Aaron DB UCF
Brown, Shakur DB MSU
Borregales, Jose K Miami
Togai, Tommy DI OSU
Lance, Trey QB NDSU
Wilson, Marvin DI FSU
 

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Vera-Tucker, Alijah OL USC
Haynes, Daelin EDGE ND
Fields, Justin QB Ohio State
Collins, Nico WR Michigan
Hutcherson, Sadarius OL South Carolina
Collins, Zaven LB Tulsa
Bateman, Rashod WR Minnesota
Trask, Kyle QB Florida
Smith, Shi WR South Carolina
Gillespie, Tyree S Missouri
Radunz, Dillon OL NDSU
Lance, Trey QB NDSU
Williams, Milton DL Louisiana Tech
Cisco, Andre FS Syracuse
Nixon, Dayvion DL Iowa
Grant, Richie S UCF
Cox, Jabril OLB LSU/NDSU
Campbell, Tyson CB Georgia
Holland, Jevon S Oregon
Carter, Michael RB UNC
 
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@mwonow I dropped both Fields and Lance. I know this is stupid but I feel like I have to keep my expectations in check and not list them. But yeah... love those two and you all might need to send a medic to my place if they draft either guy (especially Fields) because I might die of happiness right then and there.
 

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Mills, Chris QB Stanford
Mond, Kellen, QB, Texas A&M
Trask, Kyle QB Florida
Jenkins, Tevin OL OSU
Vera-Tucker, Alijah OL USC
Darrisaw, Christian OT Vir Tech
Banks, Aaron G Notre Dame
Rodgers, Amari, WR, Clemson
Eskridge, D'Wayne, WR, Western Michigan
Smith, Shi, WR, South Carolina
Horn, Jaycee CB S Car
Adebo, Paulson CB Stanford
Farley, Caleb CB Vir Tech
Williams, Avery CB Boise St
Stuard, Grant LB Houston
Collins, Zaven LB Tulsa
Johnson, Jamar S Indiana
Gainwell, Kenneth RB Memphis
Patterson, Jarrett, RB Buffalo
Felton Dimetric, WR/RB UCLA
 
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Pats offering a signed jersey if you can guess their first pick right. LOL good luck. I chose Horn.
I love how it's who they will "pick first" ...just in case they trade out of the first round
 

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@mwonow I dropped both Fields and Lance. I know this is stupid but I feel like I have to keep my expectations in check and not list them. But yeah... love those two and you all might need to send a medic to my place if they draft either guy (especially Fields) because I might die of happiness right then and there.
So obviously I am paying very close attention to your list (not for the contest - to better understand who they might pick), but I don't think I see a single first round guy on your list and maybe only a couple of second round guys. Given the structure of the point system, I would have expected you to list a couple more top prospects, but maybe you're going for the quantity over quality approach?
 

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I might swap Fields out, but I'm keeping Lance (& my new avatar until someone else drafts him).
 

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So obviously I am paying very close attention to your list (not for the contest - to better understand who they might pick), but I don't think I see a single first round guy on your list and maybe only a couple of second round guys. Given the structure of the point system, I would have expected you to list a couple more top prospects, but maybe you're going for the quantity over quality approach?
I think my list had a filter on when you looked at it. I don't do grades but if you translate my evaluation grade to a round valuation:

8+ = 1st Round. I have 21 first rounders
7.99-7.75 = 1st-2nd Rounders. I have 16 of those.
7.5-7 = 2nd rounders. I have 18 of those.
6.99-6.5 = 3rd rounders. I have 40 of those.
6.49-6.0 = 4th or 5th round grade. 59 of those.
5.99-5 = 6th or 7th round grade. 50 of those.
4.99-4.0 = PFA. 26 of those.
3.99-0 = UDFA or undraftable. 13 of those.

I still put guys I think could start even into the 5's especially if they are scheme dependent. Once you get into the 4's it's PFA and PFA's get drafted as high as the 5th, 6th, and 7th rounds.
 

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I think my list had a filter on when you looked at it. I don't do grades but if you translate my evaluation grade to a round valuation:

8+ = 1st Round. I have 21 first rounders
7.99-7.75 = 1st-2nd Rounders. I have 16 of those.
7.5-7 = 2nd rounders. I have 18 of those.
6.99-6.5 = 3rd rounders. I have 40 of those.
6.49-6.0 = 4th or 5th round grade. 59 of those.
5.99-5 = 6th or 7th round grade. 50 of those.
4.99-4.0 = PFA. 26 of those.
3.99-0 = UDFA or undraftable. 13 of those.

I still put guys I think could start even into the 5's especially if they are scheme dependent. Once you get into the 4's it's PFA and PFA's get drafted as high as the 5th, 6th, and 7th rounds.
No, I meant in your 20 picks for the contest

Edit I realize my first post was confusing - I meant I was paying attention to your list of 20, not to poach names for the contest, but to help me understand who you think they might pick, especially in round 3 and beyond.
 

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No, I meant in your 20 picks for the contest

Edit I realize my first post was confusing - I meant I was paying attention to your list of 20, not to poach names for the contest, but to help me understand who you think they might pick, especially in round 3 and beyond.
I think they need at least one and possibly even two offensive tackles, one or two CBs maybe an inside and outside guy and an outside guy, at least one and potentially 2 RBs, and one or two IDLs. Maybe a 3-tech penetrating type and maybe a true base end. Trying to hit on those 4 positions. Going day 2-3. Also... I like the challenge of it.

They might also go OG/OC depending on how they feel about Onwenu and given Karas is only under contract for one year.
 

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I think they need at least one and possibly even two offensive tackles, one or two CBs maybe an inside and outside guy and an outside guy, at least one and potentially 2 RBs, and one or two IDLs. Maybe a 3-tech penetrating type and maybe a true base end. Trying to hit on those 4 positions. Going day 2-3. Also... I like the challenge of it.
Fair enough, thanks for clarifying.
 

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Trask, Kyle QB Florida
Gainwell, Kenneth RB Memphis
Mitchell, Elijah RB Louisiana
St. Brown, Amon-Ra WR USC
Johnson, Cade WR San Diego St
Cosmi, Samuel T Texas
Christensen, Brady T BYU
Jaimes, Brendan T Nebraska
Smith, Trey G Tennessee
Banwart, Cole G Iowa
Ossai, Joseph EDGE Texas
Weaver, Rashad EDGE Pitt
McNeill, Alim DL NC State
Tonga, Khyris DL BYU
Collins, Zaven LB Tulsa
Fisher, Paddy LB Northwestern
Adebo, Paulson CB Stanford
Thomas, Ambry CB Michigan
Grant, Richie, S UCF
Moehrig, Trevon S TCU
 

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Lance, Trey QB North Dakota State
Mond, Kellen QB Texas A&M
Moore, Elijah WR Mississippi
Rodgers, Amari WR Clemson
Johnson, Cade WR North Dakota State
Wallace, Tylan WR Oklahoma State
Felton, Demetric RB UCLA
Eichenberg, Liam OT Notre Dame
Carman, Jackson OT Clemson
Cleveland, Ben OG Georgia
Paye, Kwity EDGE Michigan
McNeill, Alim DL NC State
Collins, Zaven LB Tulsa
Moses, Dylan LB Alabama
Werner, Pete LB Ohio State
St-Juste, Benjamin CB Minnesota
Brown, Tre CB Oklahoma
McPhearson, Zech CB Texas Tech
Grant, Richie S UCF
Gillespie, Tyree S Missouri
 

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Horn Jaycee CB South Carolina
Graham Thomas CB Oregon
Farley Caleb CB Virginia Tech
Paye Kwity DE Michigan
Phillips Jaelan DE Miami
Rousseau Greg DE Miami
Odeyingbo Dayo DE Vanderbilt
Barmore Christian DT Alabama
Basham Carlos DT Wake Forest
Collins Zaven LB Tulsa
Parsons Micah LB Penn St
Jenkins Teven OT Oklahoma State
Vera-Tucker Elijah OT USC
Hall Darren S San Diego State
Holland Jevon S Oregon
Smith Devonta WR Alabama
Felton Demetric WR UCLA
Schwartz Anthony WR Auburn
Toney Kadarius WR Florida
Bateman Rashod WR Minnesota
 

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Spreadsheet now includes all entries since the last update. Zaven Collins is the runaway leader as most popular pick, included in 11 of 17 (!) submissions. Jaycee Horn (9), Justin Fields (8) and Teven Jenkins (8) are also on about half of current entries, and Barmore, Eskridge, McNeil, Elijah Moore and Parsons have each been tabbed six times.

If you're still thinking about entering - please do it soon! The draft starts on Aril 29, so we'll cut this off on the 28th at midnight. Good luck to those who are in, and those still lurking!
 

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I love/hate this thread so much. Thanks for doing it again.

1. Fields, Justin QB Ohio State
2. Lance, Trey QB North Dakota State
3. Felton, Demetric HB UCLA
4. Gainwell, Kenneth HB Memphis
5. Atwell, Tutu WR Louisville
6. Darden, Jaelon WR North Texas
7. Powell, Cornell WR Clemson
8. Smith, Trey OG Tennessee
9. Christensen, Brady OT BYU
10. Dickerson, Landon OC Alabama
11. Dalman, Drew OC Stanford
12. Perkins, Ronnie DE Oklahoma
13. Odeyingbo, Dayo DE Vanderbilt
14. Sample, Cameron DE Tulane
15. McNeil, Alim DT NC State
16. Davis, Jamin LB Kentucky
17. Moses, Dylan LB Alabama
18. Farley, Caleb CB VaTech
19. Stokes, Eric CB Georgia
20. Grant, Richie S UCF
 

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I'll give this a try for the first time. I tried to take a couple of shots at each slot. Let me know if the format is too annoying, I can edit it:

Round 1 (15)
1. Parsons, Micah, LB, Penn State - I've realized that I overrate character concerns.
2. Collins, Zaven, LB, Tulsa - makes too much sense

Round 2 (46)
3. Onwuzurike, Levi, DL, Washington - A DT who doesn't get a lot of sacks. May not have enough run awareness, though
4. Samuel, Jr., Asante, CB, Florida State - Come on! Two generations of Samuels!
5. Marshall, Terrace, WR, LSU

Round 3 (96)
6. Adebo, Paulson, CB, Stanford - not sure the Pats would take someone so inexperienced
7. McNeill, Alim, DL, Texas A&M - weight room fiend, short and stout

Round 4 (120, 122, 139)
8. Tonga, Khiris, DT, BYU - good testing, good tape
9. Odighizuwa, Osa, DL, USC - He's a wrestler!
10. Jaeleon Darden, WR, North Texas - going to be so great to watch wherever he ends up
11. Brown, Shakur, CB, Michigan State - has the right attitude, reportedly
12. Deablo, Divine, S/ST, Virginia Tech - @MuppetAsteriskTalk first with this pick, might be a consensus Board Binkie

Round 5 (177)
13. Bynum, Camryn, CB/S, Cal - football guy

Round 6 (188, 197)
14. Ehlinger, Sam, QB, Texas - can't resist the idea of the Pats taking him, even if Benjamin Solak calls him "not a prospect" as a passer.
15. Mitchell, Elijah, RB, Louisiana - his cousin (Brandon Mitchell) started at DT for the Pats in '01. Has ST experience.

Round 7 (242)
16. Williams, Avery - CB/ST, Boise State - special teams star

UDFA
17. Groshek, Garrett, RB, Wisconsin - walk-on HS QB who catches the ball, runs tough, and blocks well
18. Dunn, Isaiah, CB, Oregon State - surprisingly good testing numbers (8.92 RAS)
19. Anderson, Zayne, S/ST, BYU - special teams star in the making
20. Nwangu, Kene, RB/KR, Iowa State - quick and agile, KR experience but a backup RB

Edit: my goal is to get a point.
Second edit: I guess I can't get 1 point. Not the first time I ever set an impossible goal.
 
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I'll give this a try for the first time. I tried to take a couple of shots at each slot. Let me know if the format is too annoying, I can edit it:

Round 1 (15)
1. Parsons, Micah, LB, Penn State - I've realized that I overrate character concerns.
2. Collins, Zaven, LB, Tulsa - makes too much sense

Round 2 (46)
3. Onwuzurike, Levi, DL, Washington - A DT who doesn't get a lot of sacks. May not have enough run awareness, though
4. Samuel, Jr., Asante, CB, Florida State - Come on! Two generations of Samuels!
5. Marshall, Terrace, WR, LSU

Round 3 (96)
6. Adebo, Paulson, CB, Stanford - not sure the Pats would take someone so inexperienced
7. McNeill, Alim, DL, Texas A&M - weight room fiend, short and stout

Round 4 (120, 122, 139)
8. Tonga, Khiris, DT, BYU - good testing, good tape
9. Odighizuwa, Osa, DL, USC - He's a wrestler!
10. Jaeleon Darden, WR, North Texas - going to be so great to watch wherever he ends up
11. Brown, Shakur, CB, Michigan State - has the right attitude, reportedly
12. Deablo, Divine, S/ST, Virginia Tech - @MuppetAsteriskTalk first with this pick, might be a consensus Board Binkie

Round 5 (177)
13. Bynum, Camryn, CB/S, Cal - football guy

Round 6 (188, 197)
14. Ehlinger, Sam, QB, Texas - can't resist the idea of the Pats taking him, even if Benjamin Solak calls him "not a prospect" as a passer.
15. Mitchell, Elijah, RB, Louisiana - his cousin (Brandon Mitchell) started at DT for the Pats in '01. Has ST experience.

Round 7 (242)
16. Williams, Avery - CB/ST, Boise State - special teams star

UDFA
17. Groshek, Garrett, RB, Wisconsin - walk-on HS QB who catches the ball, runs tough, and blocks well
18. Dunn, Isaiah, CB, Oregon State - surprisingly good testing numbers (8.92 RAS)
19. Anderson, Zayne, S/ST, BYU - special teams star in the making
20. Nwangu, Kene, RB/KR, Iowa State - quick and agile, KR experience but a backup RB

Edit: my goal is to get a point.
Thanks for this, I always like the explanations. And if I counted correctly, you picked 6-7 guys who are new to the list - not easy to do, with a total of 170 now named!
 
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I went heavy on OL, DB, slot WR, and 3rd down back mostly because that's what I'm hoping they do. I tried to pick players that are versatile enough to play multiple positions and schemes and also shine on special teams, because BB values those types of players. I also don't want them to pay the price to move up at QB so I ignored the position completely. And I also ignored LB because I think they can wait until next year to add some new blood there. I'm hoping they take 6-8 players and add a bunch of picks in 2022 and 2023.

Thanks to @SMU_Sox and the other BBL draft experts that have posted so much interesting player analysis.

Deablo, Divine, S, Virginia Tech, Possible future starter with special teams chops
Hamlin, Damar, S, Pittsburgh, Depth piece with special teams chops
Holland, Jevon, S/CB, Oregon, Versatile can play multiple positions and schemes and has special teams chops
Joseph, Kelvin, CB, Kentucky, Physical and defends run well and possible skills to be a starting CB
Robinson, Aaron, CB, UCF, Slot corner versatile enough to play in multiple schemes
St-Juste, Benjamin, CB, Minnesota, Physical and defends the run well
Carter, Michael, RB, North Carolina, seems too obvious as the future premier 3rd down back
Gainwell, Kenneth, RB, Memphis, Probably a riskier choice for future 3rd down back
Horn, Jaycee, CB, South Carolina, Seems like he might be the best CB to fall to Pats at 15
Jenkins, Tevon, T, Oklahoma State, Everyone loves this guy so why not
Vera-Tucker, Alijah, T, USC, Athletic and versatile
Eichenberg, Liam, T, Notre Dame, Seems ready to step in as starting T in NFL
Christensen, Brady, T, BYU, Versatile enough to potentially start at G and viable backup T
Dickerson, Landon, C, Alabama, Along with Jenkins everybody loves this guy so why not
Green, Kendrick, G, Illinois, Versatile and can play C as well
Elijah Moore, WR, Mississippi, Premium prospect at slot receiver
Johnson, Cade, WR, South Dakota State, I think he can be the Pats future at slot
Darden, Jaelon, WR, Texas, Another potential future slot receiver
Brown III, Bobby, NT, Texas A&M, Possible future starting NT that could possibly start in different schemes but might have "motor" issues
Tonga, Khyiris, NT, BYU, Possible starting NT but seems less versatile than Brown III but has a much cooler name
 

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Trask, Kyle, QB, Florida
Brown, Dyami, WR, UNC
Collins, Nico, WR, Michigan
Smith, Shi, WR, South Carolina
Sermon, Trey, HB, Ohio State
Felton, Demetric, UCLA
Dickerson, Landon, C, Alabama
Cleveland, Ben, OG, Georgia
Darrisaw, Christian, OT, Virginia Tech
Horn, Jaycee, CB, South Carolina
Melifonwu, Ifeatu, CB, Syracuse
Cisco, Andre, S, Syracuse
Barmore, Christian, DT, Alabama
Togiai, Tommy, DT, Ohio State
Shelvin, Tyler, DT, LSU
Basham, Boogie, Edge, Wake
Rice, Monty, LB, Georgia
Moses, Dylan, LB, Alabama
Mcpherson, Evan, PK, Florida
Patterson, Riley, PK, Memphis
It's a pleasure every year. Thanks for playing!
 

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I'm eschewing comments so as not to imply I have any idea what I'm doing.

Brown, Bobby DT Texas A&M
Brown, Spencer OT Northern Iowa
Browning, Baron LB Ohio State
Carter, Michael RB UNC
Christensen, Brady OT BYU
Cosmi, Samuel OT Texas
Fields, Justin QB Ohio State
Herbert, Khalil RB Virginia Tech
Hobbs, Nate CB Illinois
Horn, Jaycee CB South Carolina
Lance, Trey QB North Dakota State
McNeil, Alim DT NC State
McPhearson, Zech CB Texas Tech
McPherson, Evan K Florida
Odeyingbo, Dayo DE Vanderbilt
Rice, Monty LB Georgia
Sample, Cam DE Tulane
Schwartz, Anthony WR Auburn
Tonga, Khyiris DT BYU
Williams, Milton DE Louisiana Tech
 

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Reassured by the above, I’ll stay on the sidelines this year as I’ve spent precisely zero hours thinking about any player other than which QB we need. Even if I had spent 20 or 30 hours on it I would still have no chance.

...but man, draft day can’t come soon enough!

Every year I get fooled into thinking that because I live in Australia the Patriots will come up on the clock sooner, but it’s always more than halfway through my workday. And I get sucked into believing that Bill will actually do something interesting - pick a player I have heard of - in the first round. And every year I’m disappointed. I really hope this year is different.

And thanks @mwonow for all your hard work every year. Good luck everyone!
 
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1. Toney, Kadarius WR Florida
2. Moore, Elijah WR Ole Miss
3. Gainwell, Kenneth RB Memphis
4. Vera-Tucker, Alijah OG USC
5. Barmore, Christian DT Alabama
6. Turner, Payton DE Houston
7. Davis, Jamin LB Kentucky
8. Owusu-Koamiah, Jeremiah LB Notre Dame
9. Newsome II, Greg CB Northwestern
10. Moehrig, Trevon S TCU
11. Mills, Davis QB Stamford
12. Shelvin, Tyler DT LSU
13. Humphrey, Creed OC Oklahoma
14. Carter, Michael RB North Carolina
15. Rochell, Robert CB Central Arkansas
16. Cisco, Andre S Syracuse
17. Rashed Jr, Hamilcar Edge Oregon State
18. Stevenson, Marquez, WR Houston
19. Farley, Caleb CB Va Tech
20. Tufele, Jay DT USC

Little skewed to defense and only one QB.
 

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My half-assed eyeballing is that at this point about half the lists include Fields or Lance... and I didn’t notice McCorkle (though easily could’ve skimmed past him)