NBA Finals Thread

[crystalline]

The muscle was still in spasm......you don't stretch a muscle in spasm. Yes it does feel like a bullet in your leg or a compound fracture. I am 100% certain your experience was not the Gastrocnemius muscle in spasm.

I think some people are confusing a muscle cramp with a calf contraction with the muscle in spasm. It IS also possible he injured the muscle from the contraction tearing muscle fibers......we don't know this from our laptop or mobile device.

Yes you do stretch a gastroc in spasm, and it typically gets the cramp to stop. If you continue to work out it may cramp again.
See
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/003193.htm

A few misc comments on things above:
Bad cramps are somewhat painful but they are not extreme pain like breaking a bone or dislocating or hyperextending a joint. Even when they are in full spasm.

Swimmers get calf cramps not infrequently (esp swimming butterfly) and do not drown: the proper thing to do is take a deep breath, let your head go under, grab your toes and stretch your gastroc until the cramp resolves. Then you paddle to shore or out of the pool because if you push it again its likely to recramp.

I agree it is nearly impossible to play through a cramp till it resolves.

In fact we saw LeBron deal with the cramps and then have them recur- with about 4:00 left the Spurs were coming back, LeBron went back in, made a great move and took Duncan off the dribble for two. When he landed his whole leg cramped up again and he had to stop.

Cramps happen to athletes, I have trouble blaming LeBron unless he did something dumb like going out the night before and getting hungover and dehydrated.

 

[SemperFidelisSox]

Three days of media and fans questioning his durability, commitment and manhood. Lebron destroys Diaw, goes to the rim all night, goes 34-11-10 tonight, Heat win.

 

[Bad Penny]

People are debating the cause of his unique, repeated cramps yet ignoring this post. I wasn't going to say anything because I have incredible bias against Lebron, but certain PEDs are known to cause severe cramping.

12 to 24 hours after a hefty dose of testosterone, cramps are not only likely, they are to be expected. No amount of hydration helps. This is not an indictment on LBJ, just passing on a little information.

 

[jon abbey]

Duncan talked yesterday about how he cramped up in game 7 against Dallas, a game that was played in air conditioning like every other game in the NBA for the last three decades. This is not an indictment on Duncan, just passing on a little information. 

 

[ElUno20]

Bill Simmons is exceptionally horrible on television. His pure hatred for the Heat doesn't help. Its incredibly unprofessional

 

[Ed Hillel]

LeBron is in full Kendrick Perkins whining mode tonight. He's screamed at the refs with his arms out wide probably 5 times already.

 

[Ed Hillel]

The Spurs are just the superior team. The Heat are getting dissected.

The Heat go as Lebron goes. Lebron's been cold so far, but I expect he'll get hot at some point. The Heat are a second half team.

 

[Ed Hillel]

That is a terrible turnover by Ginobli. You got an iso, take it.

And Wade gives it right back. LOL @ that play with 5 seconds left.

 

[Ed Hillel]

A commercial, are you serious?

 

[Al Zarilla]

The Spurs are just the superior team. The Heat are getting dissected.

Tim D. had a first quarter befitting of your thread on him. Keep it up, big guy.

 

[bball831]

Wade was invisible in the 1st quarter except for 2 horrific turnovers.  Didn't even take a shot.  

 

[Ed Hillel]

An underhand flip from 12 feet?

 

[bball831]

Wade starting to get frustrated.  Barely fights over the pick, Bosh/Andersen don't rotate.  Then jacks up a 3 for no reason.  I love to watch him crumble.

 

[Ed Hillel]

"Unexcusable."

 

[Ed Hillel]

Wade lol.

 

[Ed Hillel]

Duncan is better than Splitter imo.

 

[bball831]

James Jones can't play any defense.  He should be abused every possession.  

 

[ifmanis5]

Refs in full tank mode.

 

[ifmanis5]

Oh my God these refs.

 

[Mugthis]

Refs in full tank mode.

 
Stop. 

 

[Ed Hillel]

Ok, but LBJ hasn't gotten one all game? Joke.

 

[bball831]

Refs calling a T in the NBA Finals with Wade on the other side who bitches on every play is embarrassing.  

 

[stp130]

Breen, Van Gundy and Jackson in full tank mode.

 

[Ed Hillel]

Defensive 3-seconds is the ultimate make up call.

 

[ifmanis5]

 
Stop. 

You stop.

 

[ifmanis5]

This is absurd. WHAT THE FUCK.

 

[Ed Hillel]

HOLY SHIT

 

[mpx42]

These touch foul calls are horrendous.

 

[scottyno]

enjoy your fine tomorrow d wade

 

[bball831]

Wow another embarrassing reaction call.  Wade should get fined and the ref should be banished for the rest of the Finals.  That's a disgrace. 

 

[shawnrbu]

The refs won't allow the Heat to lose tonight.

 

[radsoxfan]

Manu did actually get a bit of the arm on that play, so the end result of a foul isn't totally crazy.  But obviously the head snapping back was a complete joke, and thats what drew the foul.  Fuck Wade. 

 

[ifmanis5]

Oh hey, I'll just trust Wade, he never lies. You chumps.

 

[Ed Hillel]

Duncan was just hammered by bird Man there.

 

[ifmanis5]

I thought we were past this crap after Stern but nope. Hope the Spurs bury them anyway.

 

[Mugthis]

The Heat suck with LeBron on the bench.

 

[Ed Hillel]

Such lazy D by Wade.

 

[NWsoxophile]

Manu is the last man to whine about a flop...but when the refs review the cute acting job Wade just put on, I hope they resolve not to give him another call in this series.

 

[mauf]

Manu is the last man to whine about a flop...but when the refs review the cute acting job Wade just put on, I hope they resolve not to give him another call in this series.

My thoughts exactly.

I'd be much more upset if that call went against anyone else.

 

[Ed Hillel]

How is that not a travel or a charge on Wade?

 

[ifmanis5]

I mean. What is this.

 

[NWsoxophile]

My thoughts exactly.

I'd be much more upset if that call went against anyone else.

I'd love to see a rule change where such egregious flops could earn the player a technical, if not for the fact that the refs can't be trusted with judgement calls of that sort.

 

[bball831]

More Tony Parker please.  Ray or Wade can't guard him.  

 

[Ed Hillel]

I'd love to see a rule change where such egregious flops could earn the player a technical, if not for the fact that the refs can't be trusted with judgement calls of that sort.

I think you make it a judgment call and then have it get reviewed on court like a flagrant. That's the only way to stop it.

 

[NWsoxophile]

I think you make it a judgment call and then have it get reviewed on court like a flagrant. That's the only way to stop it.

Exactly.

 

[ifmanis5]

How did Duncan miss that?

 

[shawnrbu]

Spurs missing a lot of bunnies.  If this game is played in the 80's, the Heat win.

 

[mauf]

Three bad shots by Parker on the last three possessions (though the last one was understandable).

 

[Mugthis]

Through 6 quarters:
 
With LeBron: +10 in 40 min (+12/48min)
Without LeBron: -25 in 22 min (-55/48min)

 

[Blacken]

I feel like Chris Bosh is the most underutilized player in the league.

I know three different NBA folks who'd give him a max contract if they were in a position to do so. His lower numbers are almost strictly a function of giving up a lot of touches to make the team better.