NBA Finals: Celtics vs Mavs

Who wins?

  • Celtics in 4

    Votes: 22 5.0%
  • Celtics in 5

    Votes: 120 27.3%
  • Celtics in 6

    Votes: 222 50.6%
  • Celtics in 7

    Votes: 52 11.8%
  • Mavs in 4-5

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Mavs in 6-7

    Votes: 20 4.6%

  • Total voters
    439
  • Poll closed .

lexrageorge

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The Celtics are the 14th team to go up 3-0 in the Finals. 9 such Finals have ended in sweeps. Of the 4 teams that did pull out a Game 4 win, 2 lost in 5, one in 6, and the 1951 Knicks lost in 7.

My guess is that if the Celtics get any sort of run in Game 4, it could get out of hand quickly.
 

jablo1312

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Teams shot almost identical on 3's (37% and 36%). The difference is one team got 21 more up. Mazzula ball. Its tough to out-iso math, almost impossible if youre not getting a ton in transition.
 

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I’m fascinated to see how Dallas responds on Friday. Indiana played their asses off down 3-0 but I’m not so sure Dallas has that in them. My guess is they come out strong then wilt when the Celtics put the clamps on and it turns into a 2008 Game 6 style Gino Time fourth, but we’ll see. Luke and Kyrie don’t seem like the type to truly believe they have a shot.
 

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Truly.

Not sure Gafford, Lively, or Washington even crack the Celtics’ rotation.
Gafford and Washington are replacement-level JAGs but Lively is interesting. Agree he probably wouldn’t crack the Celtics playoff rotation. I said they remind me of the 2022 Nets but with Luka instead of KD and I stand by that. It’s hard to win a championship when you have two very good/great players but start three nobodies with them and have a bench full of nobodies on top of it.
 

slamminsammya

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This whole series theyve had enormous success by:
1) Hunting their weakest defenders on offense, and
2) Not doubling on defense

In that 20-2 run in the 4th quarter they weirdly decided to go at PJ Washington multiple trips, who is probably their best wing defender, and then doubled Luka multiple times leading to multiple open 3s. It was inexplicable.
 

TomRicardo

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This whole series theyve had enormous success by:
1) Hunting their weakest defenders on offense, and
2) Not doubling on defense

In that 20-2 run in the 4th quarter they weirdly decided to go at PJ Washington multiple trips, who is probably their best wing defender, and then doubled Luka multiple times leading to multiple open 3s. It was inexplicable.
They have doubled with Pritchard a bit. The 20-2 run was Joe making sure Jrue got his breath to end it and probably riding Pritchard a little too long.
 

benhogan

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The only thing I find strange is we had more people on this site who thought the MAVs would win this series instead of a Boston sweep

AND it was a lot more dramatic then
23 on Dallas vs
22 on sweep

@RorschachsMask didn't close the poll until an hour after G1 (when a few folks changed their votes)

Time to reveal who the non-believers were
 

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The only thing I find strange is we had more people on this site who thought the MAVs would win this series instead of a Boston sweep

AND it was a lot more dramatic then
23 on Dallas vs
22 on sweep

@RorschachsMask didn't close the poll until an hour after G1 (when a few folks changed their votes)

Time to reveal who the non-believers were
Probably just coping votes against hopes.

Any LA transplants going to Sonny McLean's on Friday?
 

lovegtm

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I'll be in Beverly Hills for 2 nights on Monday, but the series might be over by then....
 

Cellar-Door

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The only thing I find strange is we had more people on this site who thought the MAVs would win this series instead of a Boston sweep

AND it was a lot more dramatic then
23 on Dallas vs
22 on sweep

@RorschachsMask didn't close the poll until an hour after G1 (when a few folks changed their votes)

Time to reveal who the non-believers were
sweeps are hard, only 3 in the past 25 years despite some huge mismatches.
95% of voters pick the Celtics
 

Auger34

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They have doubled with Pritchard a bit. The 20-2 run was Joe making sure Jrue got his breath to end it and probably riding Pritchard a little too long.
Someone mentioned this in the game thread too and it’s incorrect. Holiday was in the game during most of that run.

PP checked in for Jrue at the start of the 4th when it was 85-70. Jrue checked in for Brown when the game was 91-73.
The Mavs went on a 7-0 run and then Brown checked in for PP (91-80).

There was really no need for Pritchard to be in the game. Hauser was the easy call
 

Kliq

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They have doubled with Pritchard a bit. The 20-2 run was Joe making sure Jrue got his breath to end it and probably riding Pritchard a little too long.
This never occurred to me but seems like a great point regarding Holiday sitting. In all the post game interviews all the Celtics seem very nonplussed by the Dallas run. They understood runs happen and knew they could play through it.
 

TomRicardo

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Someone mentioned this in the game thread too and it’s incorrect. Holiday was in the game during most of that run.

PP checked in for Jrue at the start of the 4th when it was 85-70. Jrue checked in for Brown when the game was 91-73.
The Mavs went on a 7-0 run and then Brown checked in for PP (91-80).

There was really no need for Pritchard to be in the game. Hauser was the easy call
He was cycling through the guards during the run. Jrue then Brown

Joe gave Tatum the breath before the 4th
 

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KOC wants so badly to be seen as impartial. But who is falling for that? So instead he just looks sad.

I don't know what happens on Friday but this whole run has felt like execution is the only question about this team. They are a complete unit and they are typically well prepared. The only issue seems to be when they get separation or simply stop making open looks - that's when they look lost or like the teams of the past. To their credit they avoided that of late or simply recovered.

Execute for 48 more minutes and banner 18 is etched into history.
 

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Gafford and Washington are replacement-level JAGs but Lively is interesting.
Washington strikes me as the most average NBA rotation player imaginable. Like, if you lined up all the guys in the league who play more than a couple min per game and arranged them by talent, PJ would be right in the middle.

Edit: speaking of rotation players: chapeau for those here who believed in Tillman minutes. I did not.
 

Euclis20

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sweeps are hard, only 3 in the past 25 years despite some huge mismatches.
95% of voters pick the Celtics
Adding onto that, it seems doubly hard to sweep when you haven't won before. The last 4 teams to sweep had won at least one title in recent history (18 Warriors, 07 Spurs, 02 Lakers, 95 Rockets). You have to go back to the 1989 Pistons to find a team winning their first title in a sweep.

Washington strikes me as the most average NBA rotation player imaginable. Like, if you lined up all the guys in the league who play more than a couple min per game and arranged them by talent, PJ would be right in the middle.

Edit: speaking of rotation players: chapeau for those here who believed in Tillman minutes. I did not.
Yeah this seems right. That's a really useful player off the bench (especially because he's well rounded and can play deep into the playoffs), but him being the 3rd best player on a team in the finals seems sub optimal.
 

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The only thing I find strange is we had more people on this site who thought the MAVs would win this series instead of a Boston sweep

AND it was a lot more dramatic then
23 on Dallas vs
22 on sweep

@RorschachsMask didn't close the poll until an hour after G1 (when a few folks changed their votes)

Time to reveal who the non-believers were
I'd honestly love to hear from them, but they know the first one to genuinely respond will be hounded by posters being dicks so I get why they keep to themselves