The NFL rulebook is a trainshow. How does a brutal hit to the QBs head get completely offset by intentional grounding? The QB was in the process of getting illegally smashed in the skull when he made that pass attempt
Same way that Offensive Holding and DPI offset. One caused the other to happen but they don't just keep the Holding.The NFL rulebook is a trainshow. How does a brutal hit to the QBs head get completely offset by intentional grounding? The QB was in the process of getting illegally smashed in the skull when he made that pass attempt
Did you not hear/see that he throws an incredibly accurate dump off to a wide open back? You can't teach that.Guy throws for 178 and two picks and he is getting fellated.
I agree with you completely. In my opinion, the head shot should be enforced in that situation, but he actually released the ball before he got hit in the head. The ref made that clear. Had he released the ball during, or after the hit to the head, I don't believe the grounding would have been called, mostly because he would have been unconscious.The NFL rulebook is a trainshow. How does a brutal hit to the QBs head get completely offset by intentional grounding? The QB was in the process of getting illegally smashed in the skull when he made that pass attempt
Peyton manning?Guy throws for 178 and two picks and he is getting fellated.
The bar is pretty low these days, wait until Prescott throws a TD, we will never hear the end of it.Guy throws for 178 and two picks and he is getting fellated.
Yeah it's clear no one actually cares about skull-smashing of players, outside of Congress and some organizations of moms. There's a lack of enforcement of the head-hitting rules and the concussion protocol rules. sure seems the NFL mostly cares about whether the QB can go in the next series or not. Knee injuries, bad; head injuries, meh.The NFL rulebook is a trainshow. How does a brutal hit to the QBs head get completely offset by intentional grounding? The QB was in the process of getting illegally smashed in the skull when he made that pass attempt
The truth of the matter is that this was actually a big mistake by Newton. Like I said, he didn't get hit in the head until after he released the ball, and if you watch the replay, he clearly could have gotten the ball passed the LOS, but instead, he just threw it out sideways. It's plays like that why some people will never view him as an elite QB in this league. Had he simply fliipped the ball another 5-10 yards out of bounds, he gets the 15 yarder and the game is completely different.I agree with you completely. In my opinion, the head shot should be enforced in that situation, but he actually released the ball before he got hit in the head. The ref made that clear. Had he released the ball during, or after the hit to the head, I don't believe the grounding would have been called, mostly because he would have been unconscious.
I don't have a problem with the offsetting penalties, but from the views I saw, that was not an iffy hands to the face call.I mean, I'm not gonna complain too much about the offsetting penalties when zebras gave Carolina a first down with an iffy hands to the face call on 4th and a million.
Carolina blew it.
In fairness, he hasn't played much before tonight, he was playing he Panthers, and it's reasonable to expect improvement. So although he shouldn't be getting blown, I'd feel pretty good about this in Denver.The bar is pretty low these days, wait until Prescott throws a TD, we will never hear the end of it.
Yeah Cam screwed that up for sure has to get that ball to the line of scrimmage. Probably hard to think in a concussed state though.I mean, I'm not gonna complain too much about the offsetting penalties when zebras gave Carolina a first down with an iffy hands to the face call on 4th and a million.
Carolina blew it.
If your three interviews post game are the QB, CJ Anderson and DeMarcus Ware, I'd start with either one of the other two. He survived, and I'd feel ok as a Denver fan. But NBC went to the QB.In fairness, he hasn't played much before tonight, he was playing he Panthers, and it's reasonable to expect improvement. So although he shouldn't be getting blown, I'd feel pretty good about this in Denver.
And I'd certainly take a 178-yard, 2 INT, one point win Sunday night.
The Ideal Asshole Theory is not relevant to the league office.And I was shocked to see Talib playing. I hadn't paid close attention, but I assumed taking a gun to a club and shooting yourself is suspension worthy, especially given his past, but apparently not
Dude, like that is anywhere near as bad as maybe having some knowledge about some air being let out of a football. Come on. 2nd Amendment man.And I was shocked to see Talib playing. I hadn't paid close attention, but I assumed taking a gun to a club and shooting yourself is suspension worthy, especially given his past, but apparently not
The good looking white kid.If your three interviews post game are the QB, CJ Anderson and DeMarcus Ware, I'd start with either one of the other two. He survived, and I'd feel ok as a Denver fan. But NBC went to the QB.
I guess he will improve, and winning a tough game is obviously a plus no matter what, but I don't know what he has that makes us think he'll improve to anything but bad. He wasn't real good in college, doesn't have good measurables, and won a WOAT QB competition. He didn't make a total mess of himself tonight I guess, but he threw two picks and made a terrible throw on that missed TD on the goal line while executing an uber protective game plan. I'd bet Lynch ends up the guy at some point this year.In fairness, he hasn't played much before tonight, he was playing he Panthers, and it's reasonable to expect improvement. So although he shouldn't be getting blown, I'd feel pretty good about this in Denver.
And I'd certainly take a 178-yard, 2 INT, one point win Sunday night.
Wait, what? It was a very clear helmet-to-helmet hit. I was shocked Cam stayed in.I mean, I'm not gonna complain too much about the offsetting penalties when zebras gave Carolina a first down with an iffy hands to the face call on 4th and a million.
Carolina blew it.
I may actually have meant it when I said I was done with the NFL after TB12 and BB are done. I see every concussive hit as a suicide in the wings. Just not fun.
Agree Lynch gets it at some point, and Elway is pretty astute with QB shuffling and transitions.I guess he will improve, and winning a tough game is obviously a plus no matter what, but I don't know what he has that makes us think he'll improve to anything but bad. He wasn't real good in college, doesn't have good measurables, and won a WOAT QB competition. He didn't make a total mess of himself tonight I guess, but he threw two picks and made a terrible throw on that missed TD on the goal line while executing an uber protective game plan. I'd bet Lynch ends up the guy at some point this year.
Yeah Denver never gets any calls, whatsup with that?Biggest Denver takeaway for me: the rebuilt OLine played very well against a stacked Carolina front 7.
Okung dominated, Stephenson had his way with defenders and the interior of Garcia/Paradis/Schoefield looked like all three have stepped it up from last year (Schoefield, in particular looks much better at Guard than he did at Tackle last year). If they can maintain and stay healthy, this will be the big improvement on O that will push them out of last year's mess. The run game could be massive f tonight is an indicator.
Also, I enjoyed the 3 or 4 times when they talked about how much better Remmers was handling Miller than he did in the SB and nearly every play they ran had Remmers blatantly holding him. I don't think one of those has been flagged in 2 years yet they happen nearly every play.
It certainly doesn't help that he was concussed enough to have no recollection of the game.Cam is such a polarizing quarterback. Like all running QBs there is always going to be the argument about him not being a pure passer, but I think it goes beyond that. Someone compared him to Mike Vick, but not only is Newton more capable of performing the spectacular than even Vick, but he is a much more consistent thrower.
Cam's problems come down to his mentality. When I watch him play tight games I don't have the same faith in his ability to win like the way I do with Brady or Rogers or Roethlisberger or even Russell Wilson. He ran an incredibly ineffective two minute drill tonight and burning that last timeout may have doomed them. His leadership qualities are hard to comment on because I'm not on the team, but do you think any of the above mentioned names would have botched the clock that badly?
And he did drive them into field goal range against the best defense in the league.It certainly doesn't help that he was concussed enough to have no recollection of the game.
http://deadspin.com/cam-newton-doesnt-remember-the-end-of-the-football-game-1786418801
I've seen Cam run plenty of effective two-minute drives, this game was not at all indicative of his usual QB ability.
I'm with you. Between this and the league turning into an off the field soap opera and power struggle, my interest level is at an all-time low. I'm going to a Weird Al concert Sunday night.I may actually have meant it when I said I was done with the NFL after TB12 and BB are done. I see every concussive hit as a suicide in the wings. Just not fun.
I agree to some extent but I think it being the first game in Mile High had a big effect on Carolina's D. They allowed most of their rush yards late except for the Janovich TD which was just a good playcall.Biggest Denver takeaway for me: the rebuilt OLine played very well against a stacked Carolina front 7.
Carolina's D-line looked gassed by the end of the game too. Between the 80 degree temps, the altitude, and the fact that no one is in great game shape yet all contributed to this. I do think Denver's O-line was improved, but Carolina did well in the 1st half.Biggest Denver takeaway for me: the rebuilt OLine played very well against a stacked Carolina front 7.
Okung dominated, Stephenson had his way with defenders and the interior of Garcia/Paradis/Schoefield looked like all three have stepped it up from last year (Schoefield, in particular looks much better at Guard than he did at Tackle last year). If they can maintain and stay healthy, this will be the big improvement on O that will push them out of last year's mess. The run game could be massive f tonight is an indicator.
Also, I enjoyed the 3 or 4 times when they talked about how much better Remmers was handling Miller than he did in the SB and nearly every play they ran had Remmers blatantly holding him. I don't think one of those has been flagged in 2 years yet they happen nearly every play.
Kubiak seems to be pretty consistently underrated (probably because it's not a particularly flashy system) -he's always given the Pats a lot more trouble than you would think given his team's talent level. It's not like Owen Daniels is always fucking wide open in the end zone because he's a superlative talent.Yeah Denver never gets any calls, whatsup with that?
The Oline did do much better than expected, although I thought it was mainly in the running game. Semien mostly did quick drops and bootlegs which neutralized a lot of Carolinas pass rush. Kubiak's play calling was the MVP of this game as far as I'm concerned.
You know I didn't say Denver never gets any calls, right? They clearly got away with some whoppers (see my last post) but it's not untrue to point out that Von Miller got held repeatedly with no flags. I'm not comparing the two situations though or really complaining too loudly. Von got held in every game last year too so it's apparently just something that the refs are going to let happen. I'm sure it happens to plenty of edge rushers on all teams too.Yeah Denver never gets any calls, whatsup with that?