Mr. Rodgers' new neighborhood ... same as the old neighborhood

[amfox1]

On another note, I think it will take more to trade for Rodgers than @amfox1 suggested.

Maybe, but Rodgers can simply indicate that he won't restructure his contract with GB, won't make a decision on retirement until July and won't agree to facilitate his contract for a trade to anyone other than Denver, and GB will be in a salary cap box.

 

[BigJimEd]

Maybe, but Rodgers can simply indicate that he won't restructure his contract with GB, won't make a decision on retirement until July and won't agree to facilitate his contract for a trade to anyone other than Denver, and GB will be in a salary cap box.

Good point. Rodgers does have some leverage to push a deal. GB could trade him without a restructure but who's dealing for a disgruntled QB on a one year deal that has talked about retirement?

 

[Mystic Merlin]

I don’t think they need to restructure his contract to facilitate a trade, and the dead cap hit they’ll incur for trading him is what it is at this point. The team who trades for him would certainly get permission from the Packers to broach a post-trade extension with Rodgers before committing to anything.

Rodgers certainly has the ability to steer to his preferred destination, as nobody will trade for him if he signals he doesn’t want to play for a team.

 

[Willie Clay's Big Play]

I voted “other”.

Im expecting either Indy or Pitt. Indy just seems too good of a fit and they have cap room.

 

[MegaBiffHead]

I voted “other”.

Im expecting either Indy or Pitt. Indy just seems too good of a fit and they have cap room.

Maybe, but beyond Pittman their receiving core isn't very good. I don't think he'll find it that attractive.

 

[Willie Clay's Big Play]

They have just a tad over 42M in cap space. Rodgers and a WR can fit, no?

 

[MegaBiffHead]

They have just a tad over 42M in cap space. Rodgers and a WR can fit, no?

Mahomes, Josh Allen, & Dak all make over 40M per year... I suspect Rodgers will want something similar, but they also have 28 UFAs.

 

[Willie Clay's Big Play]

Mahomes, Josh Allen, & Dak all make over 40M per year... I suspect Rodgers will want something similar, but they also have 28 UFAs.

He most likely will want top of the market money, and he should. However, the salary cap, as we all know, can be manipulated to free up room. If a team with $40MM + in cap space can't make room to bring Rodgers on, then most likely isn't going anywhere. Here are the current estimates for 2022 cap space.


The Colts are in very good shape, $42MM in cap space, 52 players signed and only $800K in dead cap. I don't know the particulars on Wentz' deal and how that will impact their cap once they fire him into the sun, but I don't think a team with the Colts' cap profile would be prohibited from paying Rodgers, or any franchise QB. YMMV.

 

[BigJimEd]

Wentz has a little over 28M cap charge currently with about $15M in guaranteed salary. They'll save about 13M in the cap by cutting him. If they can find someone to take him in a trade they would save the full 28M since there is no pro-rated bonus or other money already paid out.
Indy has plenty of room to add Rodgers and a WR.

https://overthecap.com/player/carson-wentz/4715/

 

[mauf]

Wentz has a little over 28M cap charge currently with about $15M in guaranteed salary. They'll save about 13M in the cap by cutting him. If they can find someone to take him in a trade they would save the full 28M since there is no pro-rated bonus or other money already paid out.
Indy has plenty of room to add Rodgers and a WR.

https://overthecap.com/player/carson-wentz/4715/

I think you’d find a taker for Wentz without doing anything as drastic as what the Texans had to do with Osweiler. Depending on how much the Packers have soured on Jordan Love, they might even agree to take Wentz back.

 

[JokersWildJIMED]

Sources: Aaron Rodgers has purchased land and is in the process of building a home in the Nashville-suburb of Franklin (Williamson Co.) Also, source says Rodgers is “open” joining the Titans. Another source says that current Packers teammates do not expect Rodgers back in GB.

Now, who predicted Titans?

 

[tims4wins]

Sources: Aaron Rodgers has purchased land and is in the process of building a home in the Nashville-suburb of Franklin (Williamson Co.) Also, source says Rodgers is “open” joining the Titans. Another source says that current Packers teammates do not expect Rodgers back in GB.

Wouldn’t the Titans have a big hit to get rid of Tannehill?

Edit: best they can do is post 6/1 trade which would cost them $9.6m cap this year and $18.8m next year. Would be hard to pay Rodgers his $35-40m and build a team around that.

 

[E5 Yaz]

Wouldn’t the Titans have a big hit to get rid of Tannehill?

Even if he went back to the Packers in a trade? I don't know, just asking

edit: Meanwhile, having been to Franklin, I can say that Rodgers would be quite comfortable living there

 

[JokersWildJIMED]

Even if he went back to the Packers in a trade? I don't know, just asking

edit: Meanwhile, having been to Franklin, I can say that Rodgers would be quite comfortable living there

Quite comfortable…Gehrig38 right around the corner.

 

[E5 Yaz]

Quite comfortable…Gehrig38 right around the corner.

As is my brother ... when they took us to downtown Franklin, it felt like the place the Children of the Corn moved to when they grew up

 

[Mystic Merlin]

The Titans thing is impractical given the Tannehill and Rodgers contracts.

The Titans would free up about 10M in cap with a pre-June trade (they are slated to be over the cap by 6M as of now) by trading Tannehill, but who wants him at a 29M salary that fully guarantees in March? Not the Packers, who couldn’t take on Tannehill’a deal and have Love in the wings.

The Titans would also need to absorb Rodgers’ full 2022 salary….which would put them in a net negative position under the cap than if they just kept Tannehill.

Speaking of Tennessee and Tannehill, it is WILD that that bet on Tannehill with Tom Brady available in the 2020 offseason. Who knows if Tom picks Tennessee over Tampa, but the fact they reportedly didn’t even try at the time because they preferred Tannehill is a tough look in retrospect.

 

[Willie Clay's Big Play]

So, Tannehill is the mystery MF’er that a potential landing spot for Brady decided to stick with?

 

[MegaBiffHead]

So, Tannehill is the mystery MF’er that a potential landing spot for Brady decided to stick with?

89.9% more likely than FitzMagic being that MF'er

 

[E5 Yaz]

Packers GM: "Trade? What trade? ... We never agreed that we'd trade Rodgers."

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33356458/green-bay-packers-gm-says-never-promised-trade-aaron-rodgers

 

[Captaincoop]

So, Tannehill is the mystery MF’er that a potential landing spot for Brady decided to stick with?

I thought it was established that was Jimmy G.

 

[Euclis20]

I thought it was established that was Jimmy G.

I believe that was the initial thought, but definitely not confirmed. With Flores' suit showing the Dolphins trying to tamper with Brady, there's another possibility (beyond Tannehill and Jimmy G): Fitzpatrick. All three guys would certainly qualify as a mystery MF'er.

 

[Ed Hillel]

Welllll, ok then…

View: https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/1501232835486703625?s=10

 

[Morgan's Magic Snowplow]

Can't wait to hear him complain about how the Packers are struggling to put a competitive team around a player who eats up 25% of the cap by himself.

 

[Kliq]

Can't wait for him to complain about his lack of support while he collects $50 million a year.

 

[Kliq]

Can't wait to hear him complain about how the Packers are struggling to put a competitive team around a player who eats up 25% of the cap by himself.

LOL

 

[Morgan's Magic Snowplow]

LOL

Great minds, etc, etc.

 

[Gash Prex]

Didn't Rodgers deny that he was looking for 50 million a year? And that it was crazy for somebody to suggest it?

 

[Bozo Texino]

Didn't Rodgers deny that he was looking for 50 million a year? And that it was crazy for somebody to suggest it?

Yeah, but he's trying to work things out with Shailene.

Yoni eggs don't come cheap.

 

[Marciano490]

I chose to believe this makes a Brady return more likely.

 

[steveluck7]

Id love to see future cap hits because if his "cap number goes down" (assuming that's for 2022 only) as Rap says, there must be some crazy #s in years 3 & 4

 

[SemperFidelisSox]

It was Dianna Russini of ESPN who reported Rodgers wanted to be paid upwards of $50 million and Rodgers said it was “categorically false." Good reporting by Russini in the end.

 

[BigJimEd]

Id love to see future cap hits because if his "cap number goes down" (assuming that's for 2022 only) as Rap says, there must be some crazy #s in years 3 & 4

His current cap hit for 2022 is $46.6M so not necessarily too crazy. But the details will be interesting.

 

[DeadlySplitter]

So we're in agreement Rodgers cast just enough doubt on his status, all to get a megadeal from the Packers?

 

[BaseballJones]

So we're in agreement Rodgers cast just enough doubt on his status, all to get a megadeal from the Packers?

Almost certainly. Unless he really did have inclinations to leave until the Packers simply overwhelmed him with an absurd amount of money.

 

[BaseballJones]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33508952/aaron-rodgers-new-deal-green-bay-packers-includes-150m-first-three-years

"The deal signed Tuesday, a week after he announced he would return to the team after contemplating his future, is essentially a three-year, $150 million deal that also includes two voidable years in 2025 and 2026 that help for salary-cap purposes, according to a copy of the contract obtained by ESPN.

Rodgers, 38, had been on the books for a salary-cap charge of $46,144,156 million, but that figure has been reduced by about $18 million.

The reigning two-time league MVP will make $41.95 million this season, which is fully guaranteed in the form of a $40.8 million roster bonus (which will be treated as a signing bonus for salary-cap purposes) and a base salary of $1.15 million. His 2023 pay of $59.465 million also is guaranteed. In 2024, his $49.25 million is guaranteed only against injury at the time of signing."

Does this mean his cap hit in 2023 will be no less than FIFTY NINE MILLION DOLLARS?

Then I look at Spotrac: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/aaron-rodgers-3745/?ref=trending-players

And I see these numbers for him listed there:

2022:
- Cap Hit: $28.5m
- Dead Cap: $175.2m
- Yearly Cash: $42m

2023:
- Cap Hit: $31.6m
- Dead Cap: $146.8m
- Yearly Cash: $59.5m

2024:
- Cap Hit: $69.8m
- Dead Cap: $115.2m
- Yearly Cash: $94m

2025:
- Cap Hit: $59.3m
- Dead Cap: $76.8m
- Yearly Cash: $20.9m

2026:
- Cap Hit: $53.4m
- Dead Cap: $38.4m
- Yearly Cash: $15.1m

Obviously he's never getting paid $94 million in 2024. But some of these numbers are still staggering.

 

[DJnVa]

Does this mean his cap hit in 2023 will be no less than FIFTY NINE MILLION DOLLARS?


2023:
- Cap Hit: $31.6m
- Dead Cap: $146.8m
- Yearly Cash: $59.5m

Wouldn't his cap hit in 2023 be exactly what that says? $31.6m? Why would that be listed as his cap hit but not be his cap hit?

 

[joe dokes]

So if he goes out and commits some heinous crime and has to be cut, GB has to take a 150m cap hit? If there's a heinous crime that has no victim, I hope he commits it, just to see that happen.

 

[Gash Prex]

Rodgers and Pat McAfee loudly proclaimed the deal was not accurate when first reported...and I guess its only 150 million for 3 years and not 4 for 200...but its basically a 50 million a year contact with some cap friendly stuff added in.

 

[BaseballJones]

Wouldn't his cap hit in 2023 be exactly what that says? $31.6m? Why would that be listed as his cap hit but not be his cap hit?

I answered my own question by looking up the spotrac numbers.

 

[DJnVa]

I answered my own question by looking up the spotrac numbers.

Gotcha--didn't notice that was an edit in your post.

 

[BigJimEd]

@BaseballJones Where are you getting the $94M number? In the spotrac link you posted, it is showing 2024 numbers as 40M cap hit and 49M in yearly cash.

 

[BigJimEd]

So if he goes out and commits some heinous crime and has to be cut, GB has to take a 150m cap hit? If there's a heinous crime that has no victim, I hope he commits it, just to see that happen.

I believe most of these contracts have some sort of moral clause where the contract can be voided and teams can even try to recoup some of the signing bonus already paid.

 

[BaseballJones]

@BaseballJones Where are you getting the $94M number? In the spotrac link you posted, it is showing 2024 numbers as 40M cap hit and 49M in yearly cash.

Spotrac said $94m when I looked at it. Maybe it was a typo and they corrected it.

EDIT: Just got to my computer and still had the Spotrac page pulled up. Took a screen shot.



So look at the 2024 Yearly Cash column. Is that a typo?

 

[Saints Rest]

I believe most of these contracts have some sort of moral clause where the contract can be voided and teams can even try to recoup some of the signing bonus already paid.

Aaron Hernandez dead corpse says "good luck with that."