Mike'd Up: The Mike Francesa Show

Spacemans Bong · Nov 2, 2009

Mushnick hates the two, I would not be surprised if he massaged this somehow. I just can't really imagine that Francesa could get away with some pretty controversial stuff about American Jews and Israel in New York with nary a peep.

Remagellan · Nov 2, 2009

QUOTE (Spacemans Bong @ Nov 2 2009, 05:13 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2664367
Mushnick hates the two, I would not be surprised if he massaged this somehow. I just can't really imagine that Francesa could get away with some pretty controversial stuff about American Jews and Israel in New York with nary a peep.

I was listening to Mike and the Mad Dog on 9/11/2001 and in the days that followed, and I remember one of them, I think it was Dog, started in by saying that Jews should be forced to take loyalty oaths because they now had to choose between America and Israel. Which ever one suggested it, the other quickly agreed and repeated the assertion. When the New Yorker did a piece about the show and tried to investigate the matter, they were told that WFAN didn't keep tapes of the show.

Spacemans Bong · Nov 2, 2009

QUOTE (Remagellan @ Nov 2 2009, 10:24 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2664378
I was listening to Mike and the Mad Dog on 9/11/2001 and in the days that followed, and I remember one of them, I think it was Dog, started in by saying that Jews should be forced to take loyalty oaths because they now had to choose between America and Israel. Which ever one suggested it, the other quickly agreed and repeated the assertion. When the New Yorker did a piece about the show and tried to investigate the matter, they were told that WFAN didn't keep tapes of the show.

Interesting, and I found the ADL fired off a letter about it.

jacklamabe65 · Nov 2, 2009

QUOTE (Spacemans Bong @ Nov 2 2009, 10:32 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2664393
Interesting, and I found the ADL fired off a letter about it.

Mike in triumph that his Yankees finally win, finds himself in a controversy involving bigotry. :c070:

BannedbyNYYFans.com · Nov 2, 2009

QUOTE (cheekydave @ Nov 2 2009, 05:18 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2664519
BINGO that's what I hear also.

If you listened to Mike today he called the rumours unfounded, but he never did say"I Never Said That", or "NO ONE HERE" SAID THAT. He did admit it was a crazy time after 9/11, which it was, and intimated that as possibly an apologia for any untoward comments he made or condoned that upon reflection he would not make again, and would rather not admit, is not proud of, and does NOT want to address now.

Again, I do not believe Mike is a bigot, rascist whatever, BUT if anyone has the actual transcript or recording, there might be a problem here.

Intially he avoids coming out and directly denying it but then he actually does say "I didn't say it" right around the 4 minute mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDkItmxL0BQ

valentinscycle · Nov 2, 2009

QUOTE (Remagellan @ Nov 2 2009, 05:24 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2664378
I was listening to Mike and the Mad Dog on 9/11/2001 and in the days that followed, and I remember one of them, I think it was Dog, started in by saying that Jews should be forced to take loyalty oaths because they now had to choose between America and Israel. Which ever one suggested it, the other quickly agreed and repeated the assertion. When the New Yorker did a piece about the show and tried to investigate the matter, they were told that WFAN didn't keep tapes of the show.

That's my memory too-- that it was a Dog rant that Mike seconded. (It reminded me then and now of when I had the misfortune to be listening to Eddie Andelman's old afternoon show on EEI when news hit about Oklahoma City. I recall Eddie saying something like 'when we find out that the Arabs did this, there'll be hell to pay.')

If you were listening to NYC radio in the days after 9/11, you heard a lot of stuff like this, and at the time I think the sheer collective trauma meant that any specific rant didn't get the kind of response it would've even a month or two later. I have to wonder at the timing of Mushnick's column, though. Granted that Mushnick's been Mike's nemesis for years, but why now?

All that said, I love, love, love the fact that as the MFYs go up 3-1, Mike's talking about Israel.

Doctor G · Nov 3, 2009

QUOTE (Remagellan @ Nov 2 2009, 05:24 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2664378
I was listening to Mike and the Mad Dog on 9/11/2001 and in the days that followed, and I remember one of them, I think it was Dog, started in by saying that Jews should be forced to take loyalty oaths because they now had to choose between America and Israel. Which ever one suggested it, the other quickly agreed and repeated the assertion. When the New Yorker did a piece about the show and tried to investigate the matter, they were told that WFAN didn't keep tapes of the show.
I also remember Dog as the one with the most ridiculous musings on the situation and the one driving the conversation at a time when I think they both realized that discussing sports was inappropriate except in the context of cancellations of events. The show was totally rudderless that week.

Doctor G · Nov 3, 2009

QUOTE (valentinscycle @ Nov 2 2009, 08:04 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2664590
That's my memory too-- that it was a Dog rant that Mike seconded. (It reminded me then and now of when I had the misfortune to be listening to Eddie Andelman's old afternoon show on EEI when news hit about Oklahoma City. I recall Eddie saying something like 'when we find out that the Arabs did this, there'll be hell to pay.')

If you were listening to NYC radio in the days after 9/11, you heard a lot of stuff like this, and at the time I think the sheer collective trauma meant that any specific rant didn't get the kind of response it would've even a month or two later. I have to wonder at the timing of Mushnick's column, though. Granted that Mushnick's been Mike's nemesis for years, but why now?

All that said, I love, love, love the fact that as the MFYs go up 3-1, Mike's talking about Israel.

Mushnick attacked Mike for claiming to have inside info on Utley's injury status which Mike denied vehemently and it escalated from there.

Clears Cleaver · Nov 3, 2009

mike was right on about not wanting to pitch burnett on short rest and then having to go pettitte on short, etc. I a sure we are going to hear about it all afternoon.

BannedbyNYYFans.com · Nov 3, 2009

QUOTE (Clears Cleaver @ Nov 3 2009, 07:51 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2666057
mike was right on about not wanting to pitch burnett on short rest and then having to go pettitte on short, etc. I a sure we are going to hear about it all afternoon.

Pitching Burnett on only 3 days rest was a Zionist plot gone awry.

Mirabelli28 · Nov 3, 2009

Mike is talking about Mariano possibly going 3 innings tomorrow night in Game 6 if NYY has a lead. You can just hear the arrogance (Mariano is ALWAYS automatic) in his voice. Now, to be fair, we all know Rivera is the best closer ever but does Mike have amnesia over 2001 and 2004? I know he wasn't pounded all over the ball park in either case but he was on the mound in both situations. That has to count for something or because it's the Yankees it just gets pushed aside like it never happened? Mike happens to be right about pitching Burnett last night because Girardi is acting like he's behind in the series, but his arrogance in assuming Rivera can go 3 innings no problem is beyond compare even for him. Why not just start Rivera in game 6 while we're at it. Man, I'd love to see Pettitte and CC implode the next 2 nights. Mike makes himself sound desperate to close it out in game 6 with 3 innings of Rivera because he wants absolutely no part of a game 7. I bet many Yankee fans agree. Lets go Phils!!!

God's Cop · Nov 3, 2009

QUOTE (Mirabelli28 @ Nov 3 2009, 01:55 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2666416
Mike is talking about Mariano possibly going 3 innings tomorrow night in Game 6 if NYY has a lead. You can just hear the arrogance (Mariano is ALWAYS automatic) in his voice. Now, to be fair, we all know Rivera is the best closer ever but does Mike have amnesia over 2001 and 2004? I know he wasn't pounded all over the ball park in either case but he was on the mound in both situations. That has to count for something or because it's the Yankees it just gets pushed aside like it never happened? Mike happens to be right about pitching Burnett last night because Girardi is acting like he's behind in the series, but his arrogance in assuming Rivera can go 3 innings no problem is beyond compare even for him. Why not just start Rivera in game 6 while we're at it. Man, I'd love to see Pettitte and CC implode the next 2 nights. Mike makes himself sound desperate to close it out in game 6 with 3 innings of Rivera because he wants absolutely no part of a game 7. I bet many Yankee fans agree. Lets go Phils!!!

He was killing callers last week for suggesting this very plan. I understand the World Series is different than the ALCS, but still, it's amazing how he'll kill a caller for an idea, then two days later he'll claim it as his own. 22 years later...

ifmanis5 · Nov 3, 2009

Mike now screaming at Sweeny Murti about his Mariano 3 inning plan. Murti brings up some obvious counters and Mike goes ballistic- 'YOU'RE ONLY LOOKING AT THE NEGATIVE POSSIBILITIES!!' Logic has left the building.

Philip Jeff Frye · Nov 3, 2009

QUOTE (ifmanis5 @ Nov 3 2009, 05:23 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2666744
Mike now screaming at Sweeny Murti about his Mariano 3 inning plan. Murti brings up some obvious counters and Mike goes ballistic- 'YOU'RE ONLY LOOKING AT THE NEGATIVE POSSIBILITIES!!' Logic has left the building.

Its been simply amazing to watch Yankee fans shaking in their boots about the possibility that their juggernaut isn't going to win the World Series this year. They seemed almost certain that the Angels would somehow figure out a way to beat them, now they're in full panic mode despite being ahead 3-2 and heading home. 2004 has really gotten inside their heads.

If only Pettitte and Sabathia would start thinking this way...

Spacemans Bong · Nov 3, 2009

Sweeney was 100% right on the Rivera thing and my respect for Sweeney went up a little bit for standing up to Mike's bullying.

Did anybody listening to streams have the immensely fucking annoying problem of commercials cutting into the broadcast? Near the end of Mike's argument with Sweeney it cut to commercial. It cut to commercial in the middle of Pedro's press conference. I wanted to throw my iPhone out the window.

Omar's Wacky Neighbor · Nov 3, 2009

QUOTE (ifmanis5 @ Nov 3 2009, 05:23 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2666744
Mike now screaming at Sweeny Murti about his Mariano 3 inning plan. Murti brings up some obvious counters and Mike goes ballistic- 'YOU'RE ONLY LOOKING AT THE NEGATIVE POSSIBILITIES!!'
Tempting as a sig......

jacklamabe65 · Nov 3, 2009

QUOTE (Spacemans Bong @ Nov 3 2009, 11:52 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2666858
Sweeney was 100% right on the Rivera thing and my respect for Sweeney went up a little bit for standing up to Mike's bullying.

Did anybody listening to streams have the immensely fucking annoying problem of commercials cutting into the broadcast? Near the end of Mike's argument with Sweeney it cut to commercial. It cut to commercial in the middle of Pedro's press conference. I wanted to throw my iPhone out the window.

Of course, Mike would say that Sweeney is from Philadelphia and is secretly rooting for the Phillies to win.

Winger 03 · Nov 4, 2009

Mike sounds subdued today.

Smiling Joe Hesketh · Nov 4, 2009

QUOTE (Winger 03 @ Nov 4 2009, 01:15 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2668007
Mike sounds subdued today.

Nervous maybe? Although that's not his style. I remember his bluster just before Game 7 in 2004.

More updates are always appreciated. I'd be curious to know how he sees Pedro and Pettite pitching tonight.

leftfieldlegacy · Nov 4, 2009

QUOTE (Smiling Joe Hesketh @ Nov 4 2009, 02:18 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2668018
Nervous maybe? Although that's not his style. I remember his bluster just before Game 7 in 2004.

More updates are always appreciated. I'd be curious to know how he sees Pedro and PettiTTe pitching tonight.

I only listened for about 15 minutes today. He did say that this would be a classic match up. Thinks that people who have tickets tonight might see the last big game either of these guys ever pitch.

He is really cranky. Definitely not the same bluster we heard in 2004. I find that true of all Yankee fans I see daily.

Even more so than usual, he is very dismissive of anyone daring to disagree with him, interrupting callers before they say ten words, snapping at his producers. Its "his way or the highway" today.

He is also surprisingly snarky (again) with Sweeney Murti. Has no tolerance for Sweeney's disagreement about bringing Mo in for 3 innings. Mike has backed off his "nine outs for Rivera" comments from yesterday. Today, asking rhetorically, if Mo can get 6 outs can he get you 8?

Sounds like Mike is a little nervous. Of course, if the Yankees win, he will be on tomorrow in full blowhard mode telling the world he predicted all that came to pass.

jacklamabe65 · Nov 4, 2009

QUOTE (Smiling Joe Hesketh @ Nov 4 2009, 07:18 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2668018
Nervous maybe? Although that's not his style. I remember his bluster just before Game 7 in 2004.

More updates are always appreciated. I'd be curious to know how he sees Pedro and PettiTTe pitching tonight.

October 20, 2004 - Mike: "The Yankees will not lose on Mickey Mantle's birthday."

The next afternoon - Dog: "Mike, you're right, because of the length of the game, the Yankees didn't lose on Mickey Mantle's birthday. Instead, they lost on Whitey Ford's!"

Greg Blosser · Nov 4, 2009

Fat Mike is setting the bar low for Andy tonight. He's going with either a) Yanks win it off the bullpen, or b) Yanks get a small lead early and Rivera carries it from the 7th onward.

And yes, Yankees fans are extremely tight - and bitchy - today. They've still got the '04 PTSD in spades.

Spacemans Bong · Nov 4, 2009

QUOTE (Greg Blosser @ Nov 4 2009, 10:14 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2668367
Fat Mike is setting the bar low for Andy tonight. He's going with either a) Yanks win it off the bullpen, or b) Yanks get a small lead early and Rivera carries it from the 7th onward.

And yes, Yankees fans are extremely tight - and bitchy - today. They've still got the '04 PTSD in spades.

To be fair he said to Heyman yesterday he did not expect Andy to pitch well.

Edit: Andy. Can you tell I'm listening to WFAN right now?

RedOctober3829 · Nov 5, 2009

"This championship was a long time coming"

Go fuck off Mike.

Foulkey Reese · Nov 5, 2009

I'm fine, if a bit annoyed, with the Yankees winning. But this "long time coming" stuff really ticks me off. Christ the Pirates or Royals would have been a long time coming. 9 years is nothing.

bosox188 · Nov 5, 2009

QUOTE (Foulkey Reese @ Nov 5 2009, 01:29 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2671071
I'm fine, if a bit annoyed, with the Yankees winning. But this "long time coming" stuff really ticks me off. Christ the Pirates or Royals would have been a long time coming. 9 years is nothing.

That's the thing that's surprised me the most from last night through today, I keep hearing a chorus of "We've waited all these years." I'm not even mad anymore, I think it's hilarious.

Buck Showalter · Nov 5, 2009

QUOTE (RedOctober3829 @ Nov 5 2009, 01:18 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2671054
"This championship was a long time coming"

Go fuck off Mike.

May I suggest an outstanding time-waster?

www.themikefrancesa.com

View the show threads on a daily basis. Some of the funniest skewering of any talk show host anywhere on the net.

I use it to laugh out loud each day.

Mike has become an HR Puff n' Stuff type (Google that kiddies) character to me based on what the members of that board have done to him.

dcmissle · Nov 5, 2009

QUOTE (bosox188 @ Nov 5 2009, 02:12 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2671130
That's the thing that's surprised me the most from last night through today, I keep hearing a chorus of "We've waited all these years." I'm not even mad anymore, I think it's hilarious.

Best viewed through the prism of time warped entitlement -- 1950s through early 60s when the Kansas City Athletics unofficially served as a NYY farm team and the NY Giants and Notre Dame ruled the gridiron. He grew up then and he's stuck there.

vtred · Nov 10, 2009

what a pompous ass:

Francesa: "the Mets are committed to Daniel Murphy because they want to prove ME wrong about him"

Dan Murfman · Nov 10, 2009

QUOTE (vtred @ Nov 10 2009, 01:48 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2677974
what a pompous ass:

Francesa: "the Mets are committed to Daniel Murphy because they want to prove ME wrong about him"

He doesn't give a damn about me.

Buck Showalter · Nov 10, 2009

Forget about everything else from today's show.

I was on the Long Island Expressway when I heard a Jim from Wading River (who sounded drunk) suggest to Mike that Carton should take Mad Dog's old role as Mike co-host.

Great stuff!

Greg Blosser · Nov 10, 2009

That's awesome - what was Mike's reaction? Carton always alludes to the fact that Mike hates him but I'm not sure of any specifics. Aside from Craig's general obnoxiousness, of course.

SteveCrawford · Nov 16, 2009

Going off on BB now...only media people who go along with him are folks that need to talk to him...I'm not them...Colts punted seven times you have to make Manning go 75 yards in 2 minutes...you have too. his crying/whining voice..."you have to...you didn't think it out bb one of the most ridiculous ridiculous mindless football decsions ever".....brady doesn't know what to say...can't blame him there is right and wrong BB wrong....he's going.... there is no way on God's green earth you go for it, b/c if you're wrong...

granted I agree with Mike as most humans would here

vtred · Nov 16, 2009

what a effing hypocrite...he says people won't criticize Belichick because he'll hold grudges and won't allow access to him...this coming from someone who may hold more grudges than any human on this planet...the list of people he doesn't see "eye to eye" with anymore by his own admission is huge...

Dan Murfman · Nov 16, 2009

Make this another day that it sucks that there is no Mike & the Mad Dog. I listened to Mad Dog for a bit and he thought it was the right call. Would have been a good show today.

jtn46 · Nov 16, 2009

QUOTE (Dan Murfman @ Nov 16 2009, 06:22 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2687550
Make this another day that it sucks that there is no Mike & the Mad Dog. I listened to Mad Dog for a bit and he thought it was the right call. Would have been a good show today.
Maybe I'll check out the replay of that. Dog is great if he's on a topic I care about, he just spends 75% of his show on topics I don't care about. IMO, Mike's show is just terrible. The only time he shows any passion is when he's yelling at a caller that's probably making a good point.

vtred · Nov 18, 2009

he's in full all out "let's tweak the Mets" since it's a slow news day mode...

here's what we've learned so far:

- Mets are failures if they do not get Halladay

- Mets risk losing fans to the Yankees

- Mets are worried about being on the back pages and the amount of time HE spends on them

- He helped the Mets get Piazza

- He said that when he was negotiating with YES to re-up last year, he asked the Yankee brass if they were ready to spend big buck in the off-season (Teixeira/Sabathia) sorta implying that he had a hand in moving that along.

MiddletownYazMan · Nov 19, 2009

QUOTE (vtred @ Nov 18 2009, 02:04 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2690019
he's in full all out "let's tweak the Mets" since it's a slow news day mode...

here's what we've learned so far:

- Mets are failures if they do not get Halladay

- Mets risk losing fans to the Yankees

- Mets are worried about being on the back pages and the amount of time HE spends on them

- He helped the Mets get Piazza

- He said that when he was negotiating with YES to re-up last year, he asked the Yankee brass if they were ready to spend big buck in the off-season (Teixeira/Sabathia) sorta implying that he had a hand in moving that along.

To be fair Francessa and Russo did have something to do with Piazza coming to the Mets. IIRC, Phillips was on the air with them when the Dodgers traded him to the Marlins and they were all over him. Philips even said something silly like they would not be pursuing him. The next month the entire M&M Show was pretty much dedicated to how the Mets HAD to have him and they pretty much riled up the Mets fanbase to the point where it was just a frothing gang high on rage. I think many people thought that because of the furor Francessa and Russo had stirred up Steve Philips pretty much caved into the pressure.

johnmd20 · Nov 19, 2009

QUOTE (jtn46 @ Nov 16 2009, 06:50 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2687580
Maybe I'll check out the replay of that. Dog is great if he's on a topic I care about, he just spends 75% of his show on topics I don't care about. IMO, Mike's show is just terrible. The only time he shows any passion is when he's yelling at a caller that's probably making a good point.

I just don't listen to Mike anymore. I tried after Dog left but he's just such a douche, it's not enjoyable radio. I wonder how his ratings are?

Spacemans Bong · Nov 19, 2009

QUOTE (johnmd20 @ Nov 19 2009, 04:12 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2691266
I just don't listen to Mike anymore. I tried after Dog left but he's just such a douche, it's not enjoyable radio. I wonder how his ratings are?

I agree - the M&MD reunion show really showed how Dog punctured his balloon to keep him from disappearing up his own ass.

He's still good radio when he's got something to be angry about or he's interviewing somebody, but he is insufferable with callers now.

vtred · Nov 19, 2009

QUOTE (MiddletownYazMan @ Nov 19 2009, 10:59 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2691237
To be fair Francessa and Russo did have something to do with Piazza coming to the Mets. IIRC, Phillips was on the air with them when the Dodgers traded him to the Marlins and they were all over him. Philips even said something silly like they would not be pursuing him. The next month the entire M&M Show was pretty much dedicated to how the Mets HAD to have him and they pretty much riled up the Mets fanbase to the point where it was just a frothing gang high on rage. I think many people thought that because of the furor Francessa and Russo had stirred up Steve Philips pretty much caved into the pressure.

Piazza was on the Marlins for a week when the Mets got him...

vtred · Nov 20, 2009

Francesa gets some voiceover work doing movie reviews:

Buster Olney the Lonely · Nov 26, 2009

Here's video from yesterday's program, where Mike accused Jimmy Johnson and Troy Aikman of "revisionist history."

ifmanis5 · Nov 27, 2009

QUOTE (Buster Olney the Lonely @ Nov 26 2009, 08:19 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2700551
Here's video from yesterday's program, where Mike accused Jimmy Johnson and Troy Aikman of "revisionist history."

Fantastic video.

BannedbyNYYFans.com · Nov 27, 2009

QUOTE (Buster Olney the Lonely @ Nov 26 2009, 05:19 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2700551
Here's video from yesterday's program, where Mike accused Jimmy Johnson and Troy Aikman of "revisionist history."

:buddy:

TREMENDOUS video. It's one thing for him to get the facts wrong (and nobody can fault him or anyone else for confusing a season from 20 years ago), but to see him lie, backtrack, and make ridiculous remarks because he's so defensive is great. Excellent job by whoever made the video and kudos to you for posting it (maybe you made it too - double applause if so).

SeanBerry · Nov 28, 2009

The "people are crazy" line still has me laughing me out loud.

I'm going to have to steal that anytime I am wrong about something in the future.

ifmanis5 · Dec 2, 2009

For the past few days Mike has been screaming at callers about the Tiger Woods episode. Mike's point was 'WHAT DID HE DO? ALL HE DID WAS DRIVE OVER A FIRE HYDRANT ON PRIVATE PROPERTY!' Despite the fact that callers kept pointing out that the leaked phone calls and bimbos popping up all over the internet were totally destroying his reputation, Mike did what old media does best- ignore the gossip sites until its too late. He came off (once again) as on old, pompous ass who barely knows how to use his email machine. In this case the callers were right on the money, Mike was living in Tiger's PR bubble.

Today, since the phone message audio leaked and Tiger issued an official statement, Mike completely changed his tune, didn't acknowledge that he had done a 180, refused to man up to his dumb statements the past week or apologize to the callers he yelled at who were proved to be absolutely correct. Then he mentioned that 2 of the 3 guys 'from that Gillette ad' were in trouble so now the biggest clean name in sports are Federer and of course, the Yankee Captain. It's always about Jeter, isn't it Mike? "Jeter moves to the fore here," he pronounced. Really? Why? And how so? How much more 'to the fore' can he get? And does Mike really think their aren't 10,000 bimbos out there with weird Jeter messages on their phones too? Is he drinking diet Coke or Kool Aid?

Judge Mental13 · Dec 2, 2009

QUOTE (ifmanis5 @ Dec 2 2009, 11:37 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2709148
It's always about Jeter, isn't it Mike? "Jeter moves to the fore here," he pronounced. Really? Why? And how so? How much more 'to the fore' can he get? And does Mike really think their aren't 10,000 bimbos out there with weird Jeter messages on their phones too? Is he drinking diet Coke or Kool Aid?

Uh, Jeter isn't married. As far as we know he's a single man fucking single women. That's not newsworthy. Tiger Woods is a married man flying slores to Australia to touch his wiener.

What I'm having a hard time figuring out is why being one of the three people in the Gilette ads makes any difference.

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