Michael Chavis, SS: 2014 MLB Draft 26th overall

bosox79

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Interesting to see the title of this revive, that Chavis was drafted as a SS. His lateral movement is fine but his body seems way too thick to be playing short.
Hyperbole, but pretty much every position player drafted out of HS is a SS.
 

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Last 17 games for Chavis: 4 hr, 16 rbi, .303/.329/.513/.842

This followed a stretch of 23 games where he went 2 hr, 7 rbi, .193/.272/.313/.585

So for sure he seems to have righted the ship.
 

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Last 17 games for Chavis: 4 hr, 16 rbi, .303/.329/.513/.842

This followed a stretch of 23 games where he went 2 hr, 7 rbi, .193/.272/.313/.585

So for sure he seems to have righted the ship.
I’m not so sure about this. He’s got a 3.8% walk rate and 32.9% K rate over those last 17 games, with a .413 BABIP.
 

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And all London numbers should be seriously discounted, positive and negative both (positive in Chavis' case).
 

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And all London numbers should be seriously discounted, positive and negative both (positive in Chavis' case).
Plus this for sure.

Not sure it’s worth it for this season, but I bet Chavis would be enough to get Will Smith. The Giants should be sunsetting Joe Panik, and Chavis’s fly ball distance would play well in that park. With Marco playing well, we might be able to package Nuñez along with him to offset costs, freeing up cash for another acquisition elsewhere.
 

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The wrong side of the bridge....
Plus this for sure.

Not sure it’s worth it for this season, but I bet Chavis would be enough to get Will Smith. The Giants should be sunsetting Joe Panik, and Chavis’s fly ball distance would play well in that park. With Marco playing well, we might be able to package Nuñez along with him to offset costs, freeing up cash for another acquisition elsewhere.
Give up a 23-year-old rookie infielder with tape-measure power who can play 2B for a 2-month bullpen rental? Sure, what could go wrong?
 

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Plus this for sure.

Not sure it’s worth it for this season, but I bet Chavis would be enough to get Will Smith. The Giants should be sunsetting Joe Panik, and Chavis’s fly ball distance would play well in that park. With Marco playing well, we might be able to package Nuñez along with him to offset costs, freeing up cash for another acquisition elsewhere.
Maybe they can throw in Benintendi for something else that won’t really help all that much.
 

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Give up a 23-year-old rookie infielder with tape-measure power who can play 2B for a 2-month bullpen rental? Sure, what could go wrong?
You’re probably right that Chavis could fetch more.

The thing that could go wrong of course is that he goes full Middlebrooks. I just don’t buy that the Red Sox are fully in on him. The team has ranked anywhere from first to third in contact rate MLB-wide during the Dombrowski era. Chavis’s 65.1% contact rate is currently dead last in all of baseball.
 

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Maybe they can throw in Benintendi for something else that won’t really help all that much.
You mean our league average left-fielder who’s taking time in the middle of the season to retool his swing?

The time to trade Benintendi was last winter.

Player A: .272/.345/.405 .133 ISO, 99 wRC+ in 588 PA
Player B: .270/.346/.361 .091 ISO, 99 wRC+ in 408 PA
Player C: .303/.385/.445 .142 ISO, 127 wRC+ in 536 PA
Player D: .247/.344/.426 .179 ISO, 108 wRC+ in 366 PA
Player E: .267/.326/.481 .214 ISO, 114 wRC+ in 528 PA
Player F: .281/.356/.439 .158 ISO, 106 wRC+ in 354 PA

Player A: Benintendi since the 2018 all-star break
Player B: Nava’s bad year (2014)
Player C: Nava’s good year (2013)
Player D: Jonny Gomes’ 2013
Player E: Cody Ross’ 2012
Player F: Nick Markakis’ 2019 (1/$4M)

Hanley aside, it’s easy for the Sox to plug a hitter into left field. I agree it would have been a bold move, but DD could have traded Benintendi last off-season for anyone except maybe the 20 best players in baseball. Fangraphs ranked him higher than Acuña in their 2018 trade values series, for chrissakes. There were about five or six more or less freely available options who have performed as well or better this year (García, Pence, Markakis, Melky, Grossman, Bruce) to say nothing of free agents like Michael Brantley or McCutchen.

Had DD sent him to, say, San Diego for Paddack and Renfroe; or to Cincinnati for Castillo and Winker; or to Cleveland for Shane Bieber and Yandy Diaz, we’d have our Porcello replacement in house and have a better team today.
 
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Savin Hillbilly

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The wrong side of the bridge....
You’re probably right that Chavis could fetch more.

The thing that could go wrong of course is that he goes full Middlebrooks. I just don’t buy that the Red Sox are fully in on him. The team has ranked anywhere from first to third in contact rate MLB-wide during the Dombrowski era. Chavis’s 65.1% contact rate is currently dead last in all of baseball.
The WMB comp is a fair one, though it's interesting that you mention contact rate because WMB's was not bad when he was a rookie -- only a little below league average. His swing numbers were OK too. Yet he could never draw walks on the ML level to save his life (career rate 5.2%), which suggests to me that he was not, shall we say, the cagiest chess player the batter's box has ever seen. Chavis may end up going the same route, but from what we've seen so far I think he stands a decent chance of doing better. Either way, trading him one-up for a Smith rental seems like selling him too short at this stage. Maybe if there are other legs to the deal that favor us overall, that might make sense.
 

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The WMB comp is a fair one, though it's interesting that you mention contact rate because WMB's was not bad when he was a rookie -- only a little below league average. His swing numbers were OK too. Yet he could never draw walks on the ML level to save his life (career rate 5.2%), which suggests to me that he was not, shall we say, the cagiest chess player the batter's box has ever seen. Chavis may end up going the same route, but from what we've seen so far I think he stands a decent chance of doing better. Either way, trading him one-up for a Smith rental seems like selling him too short at this stage. Maybe if there are other legs to the deal that favor us overall, that might make sense.
WMB also had the issues with his eyes that he would not correct.