If you want a tire fire, grab BakerBecause they want a top 2 pick in 2023 draft and get a QB that way. They'll probably sign some random FA to compete with Lock. I don't think they want to spend any draft capital on QB in 2022.
If you want a tire fire, grab BakerBecause they want a top 2 pick in 2023 draft and get a QB that way. They'll probably sign some random FA to compete with Lock. I don't think they want to spend any draft capital on QB in 2022.
The Pats did great over about a 20-year stretch.I don't know if Andrew Luck ends up being a Hall of Famer (I don't think his career was long enough for that, though he was a good player obviously), but the Colts have always seemed to have had a really good QB - Peyton, Luck, and now Ryan. Yeah a couple of stinkers thrown in there but that's an impressive run at that position for one organization.
I mean...everything about the Falcons' last few days sucks, but this was a corner they needed to turn soon. I will genuinely root for Matty Ice to do well in Indianapolis, and I think behind a good offensive line he still has quite a bit left in the tank; he'll definitely be better than Wentz was last year, even if he's historically taken time to learn new offenses (usually it takes him until the second year under a new OC before you see the best of him).Hope CP is working. I’d like a wellness check
Yep, and that's the reason Atlanta ddidn't want to make this trade. But at least it's all off the cap in 2023, when apparently the Falcons have well over $100 million in cap space. So that's the silver lining, even if 2022 is going to be beyond painful to be a Falcons fan.Dead cap hit over $40.25M to Falcons. Wow.
Maybe. But I'm pretty sure Ryan was trying to stick it to the Falcons and/or force his way out. It's possible that Ryan may be willing to start the year for the Colts with 2 years left on his contract whereas that would have been a non-starter in Atlanta.Didn’t Ryan say last week he was looking for a new three year deal? Maybe news of an extension with Indy will come at some point.
It's amazing to me that these teams were falling all over themselves to publicly woo Watson. The Browns end up being forced to overpay in trade + contract because they pissed off their fan-friendly, serviceable starting QB, and they ended up being the league's punching bag as a result. And Falcons are forced to make a trade they didn't want. Although this move may end up being better for them in the long run.Dead cap hit over $40.25M to Falcons. Wow.
It was ugly and the product of years of bad decisions to get to this point, but I think ripping the bandaid off now was smart. None of the options (restructuring again, trading Ryan and incurring the $40 MM dead hit, playing him on the $49 MM cap figure, or extending him into his 40s) were good, and IMO they took the best of a bad series of options.Yep, and that's the reason Atlanta ddidn't want to make this trade. But at least it's all off the cap in 2023, when apparently the Falcons have well over $100 million in cap space. So that's the silver lining, even if 2022 is going to be beyond painful to be a Falcons fan.
Seattle 100% does not think they are in a rebuild. I bet one of those guys ends up there (likely whoever is cheaper).I assumed Baker and Jimmy G would be starters in the NFL this upcoming season.... but where?
Not many gigs left, and they feel like total re-builds.
The NFL has moved teams from one conference to the other in the past (Steelers, Browns, Colts, Seahawks come to mind), any chance they move the Patriots to the NFC, asking for a friend.Good for Ryan.
The AFC is going to be incredible.
Am I really the only one who watched Ryan the last couple years and thought he was regressing? I guess he is still an upgrade over Wentz but ... I dunno. Not seeing this as elevating this offense to the same level as many here.
I don’t watch a lot of Falcons games but he was a mess in that pats game and was pissed and looked like he wanted to retire in the 4th quarter. I don’t judge him on that game but it wasn’t a good sign. His team sucked and he hated what he was playing
Regardless of how good or bad Ryan is, does anyone think that the Falcons haven't downgraded or that the Colts haven't upgraded? Mariota is worse than Ryan. Ryan is better than Wentz or the empty space in the roster that was left after they traded Wentz.No, me too. I don't think he's much above average any more and he has no upside. Calling him top 10 is crazy to me.
Fred?Matty Ice absolutely should have stuck it to ATL on the way out. Best player in franchise history, 14 year run. Always played. Never said a bad word about the owner, coaches or teammates. Ton of charity work in area, and at the end, they openly pine for a guy like Watson, while Ice is still on the roster and assumed to be finishing his career there.
Ice will be fine next year. He will hand the ball 25 times per game to Fred Taylor and make a bunch of conservative 3rd and 4 throws to the tight end for 7 yards. A few times per game he will do play action on 1st or 2nd down and hit Pittman for a big play. He wont end up on his back like he did the last half a decade with Atl. He will be the caretaker with instructions to just not mess it up. Lot of stat liens like 15-21, 185, 1 or 2 td.
Ryan is better than Wentz. But we are talking a current top 20-25 level QB to a top 14-18 QB...for me. And a guy who is older and may decline faster. It's an upgrade, but not a gamechanger, for me.Regardless of how good or bad Ryan is, does anyone think that the Falcons haven't downgraded or that the Colts haven't upgraded? Mariota is worse than Ryan. Ryan is better than Wentz or the empty space in the roster that was left after they traded Wentz.
If it was up to me, Lock's competition would be a reverse auction of the remaining free agents and whoever makes the lowest bid gets the job. Yes, I'm advocating for tanking for one year.If you want a tire fire, grab Baker
Whatever the Atlanta over is this year, take the under. They were bound to take a hit at some point, and this is rip-off-the-bandaid time.Dead cap hit over $40.25M to Falcons. Wow.
Yep, this line didn't get enough love -- made me laugh, anyway.Hate to say it, but I agree that it's a banner day for the Colts.
Then again, what isn't?
Looks like they also upgrade several draft picks in addition to upgrading the QB spot. I'm curious how the money works out in the swaps, if they gain or lose salary cap space overall. Maybe I'll try to look it up later.Ryan is better than Wentz. But we are talking a current top 20-25 level QB to a top 14-18 QB...for me. And a guy who is older and may decline faster. It's an upgrade, but not a gamechanger, for me.
Niners are never trading with Seattle, so I think that's Baker's landing spot. They're used to moody QBs up there anyway.Seattle 100% does not think they are in a rebuild. I bet one of those guys ends up there (likely whoever is cheaper).
Nice to see them winning at something.Looks like they also upgrade several draft picks in addition to upgrading the QB spot. I'm curious how the money works out in the swaps, if they gain or lose salary cap space overall. Maybe I'll try to look it up later.
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very nice qI've been wondering which is the NFC team positioning itself for a long run of conference dominance. The Pack, the Rams and the Bucs will all likely be strong in 2022 and maybe 2023, but they were both built for now, not later. Can Jerry stay out of his own way and make the Cowboys that team? San Fran?
winton wouild been a good fit for themBecause they want a top 2 pick in 2023 draft and get a QB that way. They'll probably sign some random FA to compete with Lock. I don't think they want to spend any draft capital on QB in 2022.
the nfc was this loaded between 1980-1997The NFL has moved teams from one conference to the other in the past (Steelers, Browns, Colts, Seahawks come to mind), any chance they move the Patriots to the NFC, asking for a friend.
As it stands right now, there are 12 teams in the conference at or above their level, that's insane.
Remember the good old days when we had to worry about one, maybe two other teams; that ship has sailed.
Seeing how loaded the AFC is really makes me appreciate 2001-2018 even more.the nfc was this loaded between 1980-1997
I highly doubt any one team will have the GOAT head coach and GOAT QB in their primes at the same time either.Seeing how loaded the AFC is really makes me appreciate 2001-2018 even more.
I highly doubt the AFC sees any one team dominate like that for a long, long time.
Wentz was the previous record dead cap hit.Dead cap hit over $40.25M to Falcons. Wow.
I don’t think JG is leaving San Francisco. If the Niners were going to move Jimmy and spend the savings on other priorities, that needed to happen by now. I think they’ve decided they aren’t sure Lance is ready.Niners are never trading with Seattle, so I think that's Baker's landing spot. They're used to moody QBs up there anyway.
Which I guess leaves Carolina for James G.
Ryan is better than Wentz, but Ryan probably won't play any better than Wentz did in 2021. I mean, Wentz finished the year throwing 27 TDs and only 7 INTs. He finished 13th in passer rating and ANY/A (for reference, Mac was 17th in ANY/A and Ryan was 18th). We all know there was some flukiness / fortune to Wentz' performance, but we can't assume the same for Ryan. Ryan is a better player, but I wouldn't project better performance / production.Regardless of how good or bad Ryan is, does anyone think that the Falcons haven't downgraded or that the Colts haven't upgraded? Mariota is worse than Ryan. Ryan is better than Wentz or the empty space in the roster that was left after they traded Wentz.
If they cut him have to think he'll have a lot of suitors. He legitimately good in 2020, last year he was bad, but considering he was hurt all year and that team was a mess someone should be taking a shot on him. I would guess the trade market is cold because he's in the last year of a deal, and everyone knows the Browns want to move him.Mary Kay Cabot thinks that if the Browns wind up cutting Baker, watch the Steelers
https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/03/22/steelers-baker-mayfield-free-agent-rumors-browns-deshaun-watson