I mean, this part should be obvious, shouldn't it? For all of the "don't let Xander go" talk on the main board, you'd think that he has a couple of MVPs under his belt. Sometimes people just love players and want them to stay here forever.
It's unfortunate that the Nets traded away all of their own picks and see no value in tanking, instead demanding players who can help immediately. I wonder if Ainge would entertain sending Mitchell to the C's for a package built around Horford's expiring contract and those 6 picks/swaps.
The Knicks can trump whatever the Celtics could offer for Mitchell, in terms of # of picks, quality of picks, & matching salary.
Just don’t see any other landing spots besides the Celtics, if true. This may be what the Nets want.
NOLA was my odds-on favorite since:
NBCSports reported TL was not available. https://nba.nbcsports.com/2022/08/10/kevin-durant-reportedly-now-sees-boston-as-desired-landing-spot/
If a package centered around Jaylen Brown isn't enough for the Nets, why would Brooklyn accept anything less than a package centered around Ja Morant? Dillon Brooks, Bane, and JJJ are nice pieces, but don't measure up to JB as a centerpiece to a deal.
Agreed. The Nets don't appear to be changing their position and nobody is going to meet the current (rumored) ask. Either they lower their demands and make a deal or the league will let them deal with a KD staring contest.
Hmm. I think I would sign up for a JJJ and Bane for Jaylen Brown deal :duckshead:
Except JB was 3 years younger than Bane when he came into the league. So it’s certainly not apples to apples. Bane’s second season far more impressive than JB’s seasons at 20 & 21 years old. But he is not performing better than Jaylen at the same age. Plus he’s a catch & shoot dude more than anything else but he’s a sniper for sure.
4 for JJJ. Bane isn’t even an RFA until 2024. It’s why I’d be kind of surprised if Memphis actually did this. They’re under no pressure to win now and have a nice young core around Ja.
4 years for JJJ and I think basically 6 for Bane—1 more year, then team option, then his RFA year which would likely result in a 4 year deal.
Thanks.
Both players are good but if you can transmogrify them into Durant to play alongside Ja, you do it.
That’s true, but we can adjust for it.
As the Hawks you'd need to put in more, I realize, which was the point (not sure I see how you'd do that post-Murray trade anyway). Brown is a couple tiers better than either of them: Athletic had Brown in 3A, meaning a top-25 guy and Collins and Hunter in 4B...which means they are in the 60-90 range overall. That's a very big gap----Smart, Horford, and TL all are in tier 4A, so in between Brown and Collins or Hunter. White, Brogdon, Collins, and Hunter are all in the same tier to give a sense of how big the difference is between Jaylen and Collins/Hunter. Other guys in the 4B tier are Porzingis/Tobias Harris (to me, those are worse contracts than Collins) and also young guys--Halliburton, Cade, Simons....so there's lots of different profiles in there.
Oh, I was laughing at that being the proposed offer for Durant - nothing to do with Jaylen. That was a John McEnroe offer: surely they cannot be serious.
I think so. And in this case, I think that significant hit makes a deal like JJJ, Bane and picks a little more reasonable for Memphis. Heightened Injury concerns going forward would be some risk that Brooklyn takes on, but I don't think JJJ missing time next season is really that much of an issue. The years of control beyond that could be valuable.
Both guys can shoot the 3, which is a necessity if you have Simmons on your team. If you add a few picks, that’s a deal you can sell. Really depends on how they value JJJ and discount his injury problems.
JJJ shot .319 from three last year... a far cry from the cromulent .359 and .394 of his first two years (I'll ignore the SSS .283 before he got injured two seasons ago). Which is the real JJJ moving forward? Just another question mark, to go with the foot.
His free throw shooting is still excellent. He's probably not a .394 shooter, but I doubt that he's .319. Hard to tell this early of course, but it's likely something in the neighborhood of league average IMO (which isn't bad).
I doubt very much that anyone on the Celts is losing sleep over “trade for KD and probably win a banner in the next couple years” versus “ Don’t trade for KD and probably win a banner in the next couple years” and I think that the idea that trading for KD will make the current roster fall apart is overblown.
Entirely fair. I have zero clue what the Celtics brain trust actually thinks and others here may have a much better handle.
I don't think that anyone does, brother. We're speculating. And the media is either a) speculating, or b) relaying the information that one of the participants wants out there. We're all filtering through guesswork and propaganda.
I think that the Celtics brain trust will wait this whole thing out and see if the price comes down to a point where it makes sense to get KD.
His signature is “The Boardroom” graphic at the bottom there. That’s his and Kleiman’s company
