Julian Edelman released & retires

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Edelman’s HOF case (to the extent you think he has one) is entirely dependent on his post season numbers. There’s no argument he belongs based on regular season by itself. He’s not close.
 

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Spent many years in Pitt. Out of the blue 2 separate Pitt friends text me the following. Not sure how or why Hines got pulled into this.
I noted Jules better playoff numbers but Ill take any other advice how to respond.

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What’s to respond to? Ward may have been better than Edelman. No need to even bother fighting that battle. Just say so what? Ward was great but you’re glad Edelman was a Patriot and was a key to them winning three super bowl championships. No need to get into any sort of pissing contest.
 

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Edelman’s HOF case (to the extent you think he has one) is entirely dependent on his post season numbers. There’s no argument he belongs based on regular season by itself. He’s not close.
Love the guy. Pats HOF first shot. But sadly I dont see him as an NFL HOFer. He meant far more to us than them. Hines Ward has to get in order Jules if we are viewing this objectively
 

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Pedroia-Edelman, the underdogs that were amazing to root for. So sad to see them gone.
 

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Love Edelman to death, but he's not even close to an NFL HOFer due to a combo of factors that kept him from racking up numbers during his career and injuries cutting his career short. I mean, he never even made a pro bowl or all pro (though probably would have at some point if not for the fact that making the super bowl made you ineligible as a replacement). Welker should make the HOF long before Edelman does, and Welker probably never comes close either. Btw, Welker's postseason numbers with the Pats were just as good or better than Edelman's, he just wasn't around for as long.
 

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I think he's a Patriots HOFer but not nearly an NFL HOFer. Really sad to see him go. I figured he had one last run in him and that we were going see him the second half of this season -- too bad that's not the case. One of my favorite Pats players of all-time and I started following the Pats more than 40 years ago.
 

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Love the guy. Pats HOF first shot. But sadly I dont see him as an NFL HOFer. He meant far more to us than them. Hines Ward has to get in order Jules if we are viewing this objectively
In the pass-happy, 21st Century NFL, there’s an argument that far more receivers should be enshrined than have been to date, such that both Ward and Edelman belong. Megatron being (rightly) a first-ballot selection suggests the voters are starting to revisit historic standards.
 

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What’s crazy to me about that clip is it reiterates just how insane and unlikely Edelman’s career trajectory was. I’m gonna guess that BBnever said anything like that to TB12 about JG if Jimmy made a great pass in preseason. I think the reason Bill felt comfortable joking like that to WW is because the notion of JE replacing WW was not realistic even to Bill.
 

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What’s crazy to me about that clip is it reiterates just how insane and unlikely Edelman’s career trajectory was. I’m gonna guess that BBnever said anything like that to TB12 about JG if Jimmy made a great pass in preseason. I think the reason Bill felt comfortable joking like that to WW is because the notion of JE replacing WW was not realistic even to Bill.
I’ve always had the exact opposite impression from that clip. And Welker’s reaction certainly doesn’t help. It’s as if Wes was completely oblivious to his competition.
 
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I’ve always had the exact opposite impression from that clip. And Welker’d reaction certainly doesn’t help. It’s as if Wes was completely oblivious to his competition.
I don't know if it's just Welker's general demeanor, but he sounds oblivious to....everything.
 

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Sorry to see him go, but he went out on his own terms, best of luck to him in his retirement.

As great as he was and as many great moments he has had, the one that stands out to me was the multiple catches he made in the AFCCG vs the Chiefs in overtime on 3rd and 10, one of which I still don't know how he held onto the ball.

Just a money player who rose to the occasion when it mattered the most, granted he may not be a NFL HOF candidate, but you can't measure how clutch he was when he needed to be.

Just a great Patriot, played the game the right way.
 

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I’ve always had the exact opposite impression from that clip. And Welker’s reaction certainly doesn’t help. It’s as if Wes was completely oblivious to his competition.
The little man? Little man?
 

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anyone think there is a place for Jules in the org down the road? He seems truly beloved and if Belichick was 10 years younger I think it would be a slam dunk. He loves guys that play like him.
 

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So Slater's the last guy left who Gil Santos called?
Unless you count Nick Folk as an opposing player in the 10/14/07 Pats v. Cowboys game. After Slater, the next longest-tenured Patriot is Devin McCourty, and he started a couple years after Gil's retirement.
 

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anyone think there is a place for Jules in the org down the road? He seems truly beloved and if Belichick was 10 years younger I think it would be a slam dunk. He loves guys that play like him.
I honestly don't think Edelman will want to coach at least right away. He's got a young child and seems to have made L.A. his home.
 

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I honestly don't think Edelman will want to coach at least right away. He's got a young child and seems to have made L.A. his home
JE wasn’t able to get max dollars while playing so I think he’d be more inclined to choose a well-paying play by play or studio job. It’d certainly be easier on travel/time demands. And he might have the personality to pull it off. I’m curious to hear his thoughts on the game.
 

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I heard somewhere (I'm sorry, I forget the source) that Gronk said "There's a 69% chance he ends up in Tampa by the end of the year"...............

Don't ever change Gronk.

Hey; if he can retire due to his body giving out on him and then unretire when Brady came calling, why not?
 

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Unless you count Nick Folk as an opposing player in the 10/14/07 Pats v. Cowboys game. After Slater, the next longest-tenured Patriot is Devin McCourty, and he started a couple years after Gil's retirement.
Gil called the 2012 season including the loss to the Ravens in the AFCCG. McCourty, Bolden and Hightower were on that team. I may be missing others:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gil_Santos

The last game Santos commentated was in January 2013, the Patriots' AFC Championship Game loss to the Ravens, his 759th broadcast. Santos was inducted to the Patriots Hall of Fame on July 22, 2013, alongside fellow honoree Tedy Bruschi.[13]
 

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Peter King transcribes Edelman's origin story:

All of a sudden I got a call from a 508 area code [Massachusetts]. I believe it was Bill Belichick’s assistant, Berj Najerian. “Hey Julian. I’m with New England. We’re gonna draft you. Here’s Coach Belichick.”
I’m sitting there like I don’t know what to do. Bill Belichick! He gets on the phone and says, “Hey, Julian? Well, uh, you’re a hell of a football player. We don’t know what you’re gonna play but we’ll see you at Rookie Camp.” I’m like, “All right coach! I’ll see you!”
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/04/18/nfl-draft-rumors-fmia-peter-king/?cid=nbcsports
 

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JE wasn’t able to get max dollars while playing so I think he’d be more inclined to choose a well-paying play by play or studio job. It’d certainly be easier on travel/time demands. And he might have the personality to pull it off. I’m curious to hear his thoughts on the game.
Yeah, I could see him doing features periodically on Inside the NFL or something like that. He goes out and spends a few days with someone.
 

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Edelman was on PMT today. If you're a Pats fan, it is a must listen. (it might be a must listen for all, but especially if you like the Pats) Phenomenal interview.