iPhone 6 - BFD

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Blundatola said:
There is. On the order summary page it shows the shipping address and you can tap to change it.
 
Yeah, it wasn't letting me tap that section for some reason so I just took care of it when I got into the office this morning.
 

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I'll probably grab an iPhone 6 on launch day if I can get one without waiting in line. I know the 5S was stocked even at lunch break at a lot of stores. I would've preordered but I'm still not sure if I want to go 16 GB or 64 GB. I got a 32 GB 5S, but I still have like 12 GB free, and I'm waiting to see how much space i am able to free up with the new photos in iCloud and smaller versions on the phone setup available in iOS 8. Really, really wish they would've offered a 32 GB model for $50 more than the 16. 64 just seems like way more space than I need, since I won't even fill 32 in the next 2 years most likely. I stream my music, and usually videos i store on my iPad if I'm planning a trip or something.
 

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Ordered a 16 GB 4.7 last night for my kid, and the shipping estimate is 21-35 days; so it's backed up past the Sept 19 launch now, but not ridiculously so.
 

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Ordered 5 iPhone 6's (4 16gb for wife and kids and 1 64gb for me) yesterday as I switched from AT&T to Sprint.  They are all supposed to be delivered on Friday, 9/19 (release day).  We'll see.
 

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5 iPhone 6's? Job search must have been a success.

I too switched to AT&T this week. The 5c's were free so we were really excited, never had a phone approaching that level of cool.
 

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Yaz4Ever said:
Ordered 5 iPhone 6's (4 16gb for wife and kids and 1 64gb for me) yesterday as I switched from AT&T to Sprint.  They are all supposed to be delivered on Friday, 9/19 (release day).  We'll see.
Wow. That's a lot of phones.
 

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5 iPhone 6's? Job search must have been a success.

I too switched to AT&T this week. The 5c's were free so we were really excited, never had a phone approaching that level of cool.
I wish.  Still working on certification.
 
Selling my existing phones, so it's basically a wash and everyone gets the newest and shiniest.  4 kids, but the youngest (only 8) won't be getting a phone until at least the start of middle school.
 

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Yaz4ever's family single handedly outsold that piece of shit Amazon phone
Has anyone ever seen one of those out in the wild? What would cause someone to purchase one?
 

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For those of you upgrading through the Verizon upgrade portal, and selecting a new plan, are you seeing that a new 2GB + Unlimited Talk + Unlimited Text plan will cost only $50, even without Verizon Edge? Is this some kind of a mistake?
 
I'm thinking I might have to jump on this even though I was thinking of Moto X or a new Droidy thing in a couple months.
 

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Too good to be true. Verizon fails to disclose at any point the $40 line access fee for the share everything plans. I ordered but immediately cancelled. Watch out, guys.
 

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I have no idea why ATT and Verizon can't be up front and simple with how they are screwing the consumer. I've spent a decent amount of time trying to decode the ATT next program. I've reached the conclusion that opting in would result in me paying two subsidies at once. Anyone who deals with ATT or Verizon knows you're taking the business end of the instrument straight up the ass...and I'm fine with that as I'm willing to pay for a good phone and good service. But these companies are like the prostitute who steals your wallet after you pay full freight and tip well.
 

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At this point, what's the best move for someone that wants to order a new AT&T iPhone 6 but hasn't place an online order yet - order online and wait based on whatever current delivery times are, or try to pick one up in Manhattan on Friday (?) when they become available in store?
 

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DukeSox said:
At this point, what's the best move for someone that wants to order a new AT&T iPhone 6 but hasn't place an online order yet - order online and wait based on whatever current delivery times are, or try to pick one up in Manhattan on Friday (?) when they become available in store?
What's your willingness to wait in line for 3 hours? There's a good chance (better than even I'd guess) you'll be able to land one if you wait, but: 1) You may not; 2) Even if you do, it seems like less than a great use of time.
 

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A somewhat related question - if I want to sell my AT&T iphone 5c on ebay it seems it makes sense to unlock it first.  If I unlock my phone now, will it still work on AT&T until the point I'm ready to ship it off? I'm not finding any information online about this so far...
 

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Trautwein's Degree said:
I have no idea why ATT and Verizon can't be up front and simple with how they are screwing the consumer. I've spent a decent amount of time trying to decode the ATT next program. I've reached the conclusion that opting in would result in me paying two subsidies at once. Anyone who deals with ATT or Verizon knows you're taking the business end of the instrument straight up the ass...and I'm fine with that as I'm willing to pay for a good phone and good service. But these companies are like the prostitute who steals your wallet after you pay full freight and tip well.
 
I did the math on the AT&T Next programs over the weekend. The Next plan doesn't charge the $40 activation fee, splits the full price of the phone in either 20 or 24 monthly interest-free payments, and drops the "line access fee" from $40 per month to $15 per month on a 10GB+ plan or $25 per month on a less than 10GB plan.
 
Taking a high-end $650 smartphone, you'd pay about $50 more over two years with Next as an individual, but $200 less on a Family plan with 10GB+ of data. A family should always either purchase the phones outright without a contract or join the Next plan, even if they don't want to swap for a new phone 12 or 18 months in.
 

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I did the math on the AT&T Next programs over the weekend. The Next plan doesn't charge the $40 activation fee, splits the full price of the phone in either 20 or 24 monthly interest-free payments, and drops the "line access fee" from $40 per month to $15 per month on a 10GB+ plan or $25 per month on a less than 10GB plan.
 
Taking a high-end $650 smartphone, you'd pay about $50 more over two years with Next as an individual, but $200 less on a Family plan with 10GB+ of data. A family should always either purchase the phones outright without a contract or join the Next plan, even if they don't want to swap for a new phone 12 or 18 months in.
My issues with the Next program is that right now I have a GS4 that I purchased in August of 2013. If I upgrade via Next, I get hit with turning in my GS4 which I paid $200 for upfront plus a year of payments, I continue to pay the subsidy on the GS4 that I gave back to ATT until August of 2015, and I get hit with the monthly cost of a new device. At least, I think this is the case. The program is so damn complicated that I could very well be wrong and just have given up.
 

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Trautwein's Degree said:
My issues with the Next program is that right now I have a GS4 that I purchased in August of 2013. If I upgrade via Next, I get hit with turning in my GS4 which I paid $200 for upfront plus a year of payments, I continue to pay the subsidy on the GS4 that I gave back to ATT until August of 2015, and I get hit with the monthly cost of a new device. At least, I think this is the case. The program is so damn complicated that I could very well be wrong and just have given up.
 
From what I understand, you either keep making the payments on the phone and keep it when it's paid off, or turn it in for a new one and only make payments on the new one. It probably makes most sense to keep paying for it and sell it on eBay, but that depends on the phone.
 
Maybe there should be a new thread comparing plans. There are a whole lot more options than there ever were before.
 

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Max Power said:
 
From what I understand, you either keep making the payments on the phone and keep it when it's paid off, or turn it in for a new one and only make payments on the new one. It probably makes most sense to keep paying for it and sell it on eBay, but that depends on the phone.
 
Maybe there should be a new thread comparing plans. There are a whole lot more options than there ever were before.
 
This would be awesome. My wife and I both want to upgrade the the bigger iPhone devices, but we've only had our current contract for 16 months. We could upgrade with Next - but I have no idea if it makes sense financially. 

I wish there was a tool/excel spreadsheet or whatever where you could input your current plan, and go through different plans/phone upgrades and see what the true cost is.
 

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Trautwein's Degree said:
My issues with the Next program is that right now I have a GS4 that I purchased in August of 2013. If I upgrade via Next, I get hit with turning in my GS4 which I paid $200 for upfront plus a year of payments, I continue to pay the subsidy on the GS4 that I gave back to ATT until August of 2015, and I get hit with the monthly cost of a new device. At least, I think this is the case. The program is so damn complicated that I could very well be wrong and just have given up.
You don't trade in your old phone when starting the program. I asked this and recorded it twice. You trade in each year but keep your original device (coming from a contract)
 

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This would be awesome. My wife and I both want to upgrade the the bigger iPhone devices, but we've only had our current contract for 16 months. We could upgrade with Next - but I have no idea if it makes sense financially. 

I wish there was a tool/excel spreadsheet or whatever where you could input your current plan, and go through different plans/phone upgrades and see what the true cost is.
I just chatted with ATT. I can upgrade via next. I keep my GS4 which I'll sell. And my data plan decreases by $15. I'm looking at the moto x which should run $25 a month on next. Basically, if I sell my GS4 for $100 to Gizelle or something, I basically get the Moto X for free. 
 

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A family should always either purchase the phones outright without a contract or join the Next plan, even if they don't want to swap for a new phone 12 or 18 months in.
This is if you're moving to the new (AT&T Mobile Share, Verizon More Everything) plans. If you have an old school type 'family plan' or what not, it may make more sense to stay on the current plan. The general idea that people should have when shopping for phones and plans is that both Next options are the same in terms of overall cost and they're the same as paying retail. If you're not planning on swapping phones that often consider Next = free financing. Signing a 2 year contract is basically paying an extra $150 per phone (if we're looking at the 128 GB iPhone 6 Plus). However, if you have an old plan, this changes a bit because your plan won't make you pay extra per line if you opt to take the subsidy. For me personally it's $240/mo on my current bill with $1800 in phone subsidies every 2 years (4 lines), vs. $183/mo for Mobile Share.
 

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I just chatted with ATT. I can upgrade via next. I keep my GS4 which I'll sell. And my data plan decreases by $15. I'm looking at the moto x which should run $25 a month on next. Basically, if I sell my GS4 for $100 to Gizelle or something, I basically get the Moto X for free. 
 
Isn't the Moto X available for you to buy outright and unlocked?  Is it that much more expensive than spreading it out over Next?
 
Since buying the Nexus 4 (and now 5), I doubt I'll ever go back to subsidized phones.  And I switched to Net10, which uses AT&T's network and I'm paying $85 for 2 phones with unlimited calls, text, data (data throttled after 2.5 gigs, which I found out the hard way.  Didn't realize the speedtest app used so much data!).  Signal is SO much better than what I had with T-Mobile, and we're paying $30 less a month.
 
I'll be buying the 6 when it comes out, giving the 5 to my girlfriend, and selling our 2 Nexus 4s.
 

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I just drew the dimensions of the smaller 6 out on a piece of paper and am really kind of bummed at how fucking long it is compared to my old 4s.  Fucking thing would have almost a full inch sticking out of the hip pocket of the jeans I'm wearing right now.  Fuck that noise.
 
I might have to just get a 5s even though I'd really rather buy the newest option since I only upgrade every 3 years if possible.
 
Prediction: next year there will be a new model (akin to the 5c perhaps) that's a 6 in a smaller size because people like me aren't going to want to carry something the length of a cordless landline phone around in their pocket.
 

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Prediction: next year there will be a new model (akin to the 5c perhaps) that's a 6 in a smaller size because people like me aren't going to want to carry something the length of a cordless landline phone around in their pocket.
I've seen a lot of people say the same, and it makes sense. They're already actively supporting 5 iOS screen sizes (3 iPhones, 2 iPads), plus legacy support for the iPhone 4. Dropping that to 4 screen sizes just doesn't seem worth alienating the segment of iPhone users who genuinely like a one handed phone.
 

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The potential problem is that they might cheap out on specs and construction. I find the 5c to be a bit tacky and right now you can still get a 5s, but the largest capacity they offer is 16gb.

That's what other manufacturers are doing as well. But what they need to understand is that some of us don't like larger screen sizes, that doesn't mean we want inferior specs otherwise.
 

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They're still offering a 32 gb iPhone 5s.

I really didn't think I wanted a bigger iPhone than my 5s but after printing one of the properly scaled size comparisons I think that even my fairly small hands will be okay for most one handed use on the 4.7" screen. I do think that is basically at the limit of one handed use for me though.
 

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I don't understand this infatuation with one handed operation. What are you doing that you can't get a second hand involved on the rare occasion you need to? Additionally, why can't you slide the phone up and down in your hand to reach all corners of the screen with one hand?
 

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Why should someone need to? I am not blind (thus I don't need a giant screen to see 99% of what I'm viewing) and use it a lot while carrying other things (like luggage). Why is it wrong that I prefer one handed operation when I'm not texting people? Using two hands forces you to have your phone front and center. I like casual browsing to be a distraction rather than the focus of my attention.

There's no real utility for me in a comically large screen, so I'm not sure why the option of having the perfect sized screen is being phased out.

And generally I'm mindful of not dropping it nor holding it loosely (which is needed to constantly slide your phone around in your hand); you can't clutch your phone in such a way that it won't easily be dropped or snatched out of your hand when you're holding a phone over 4 inches. And I'm 6'1", so it's not an issue of small hands. Different strokes.
 

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That's what she said.
I am interested in knowing if all the online orderers are selecting the two year contract or the Next/Verizon More installment plans. 
 
If you have recently changed to a Mobile Share Value plan on ATT, make sure that you are using the Next program or your per line price will go up from $15 a month to $40 a month. 
 

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mt8thsw9th said:
Why should someone need to? I am not blind (thus I don't need a giant screen to see 99% of what I'm viewing) and use it a lot while carrying other things (like luggage). Why is it wrong that I prefer one handed operation when I'm not texting people? Using two hands forces you to have your phone front and center. I like casual browsing to be a distraction rather than the focus of my attention.

There's no real utility for me in a comically large screen, so I'm not sure why the option of having the perfect sized screen is being phased out.

And generally I'm mindful of not dropping it nor holding it loosely (which is needed to constantly slide your phone around in your hand); you can't clutch your phone in such a way that it won't easily be dropped or snatched out of your hand when you're holding a phone over 4 inches. And I'm 6'1", so it's not an issue of small hands. Different strokes.
It isn't wrong. I said I don't understand it.
 

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Using it with one hand (other than when I'm trying a reply like this one) is just how I find myself naturally using my phone at least 75% of the time. It feels natural and leaves a hand free for whatever the fuck, like a grab rail on the subway, holding a briefcase or laptop bag or a bottle of water while walking etc.
 

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sox311 said:
I am interested in knowing if all the online orderers are selecting the two year contract or the Next/Verizon More installment plans. 
 
If you have recently changed to a Mobile Share Value plan on ATT, make sure that you are using the Next program or your per line price will go up from $15 a month to $40 a month.
As noted above, your monthly lease fee for the "Next" programs can end up being more in total than the increased fee on your per-line access fee.

I'm considering dropping $500+ on each iPhone (whatever the no-contract cost is) so that I can stay out of contract and keep my per-line fees low.

I keep my phones for about 3 years each, so signing up to pay the extra $25 monthly lease (and having to give up the phone when you renew - no trade-in or re-sale opportunity since you don't outright own the phone) is a shit deal even if it saves me on that other fee.

If you're definitely into getting a new model in 1.5-2 years and don't care about re-sale of your handset, then the math might make more sense.
 

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I just drew the dimensions of the smaller 6 out on a piece of paper and am really kind of bummed at how fucking long it is compared to my old 4s.  Fucking thing would have almost a full inch sticking out of the hip pocket of the jeans I'm wearing right now.  Fuck that noise.
 
 
Serious question, do you wear hipster skinny jeans or women's jeans?
 
I wear standard fit jeans, khakis and slacks/dress pants wtf you want to call them and I have a solid 3-4" above my phone in my pants. I'm not wearing skinny jeans, nor baggy, just standard/normal fit.
 
How small are your pockets? I've had a 5S for the last year and I couldn't stand going to a 4S again, I am also not sure i want to go to a 6, i would never got a 6+. But at the end of the day, I'm sure the 4S, 5S or 6 could fit into my jeans without sticking out.
 

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If it makes you feel any better, I use my 5.5 inch phone with one hand 90+% of the time.
 

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Jayhoz...do you have the note? I have the note 3 and honestly while I admit is ridiculously big looking as a phone I love it for everything else I do on it and I'm not sure I could go back to much smaller.
 

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Serious question, do you wear hipster skinny jeans or women's jeans?
 
I wear standard fit jeans, khakis and slacks/dress pants wtf you want to call them and I have a solid 3-4" above my phone in my pants. I'm not wearing skinny jeans, nor baggy, just standard/normal fit.
 
How small are your pockets? I've had a 5S for the last year and I couldn't stand going to a 4S again, I am also not sure i want to go to a 6, i would never got a 6+. But at the end of the day, I'm sure the 4S, 5S or 6 could fit into my jeans without sticking out.
Haha.

I generally wear slim fit straight leg jeans (not hipster skinny jeans). I have pairs by 3 or 4 different brands, but in general they're basic, slim cut which works best for my frame. Obviously every pair of pants has different measurements, but it struck me as problematic that this phone would not fit all the way into the jeans I had on today (which are a great pair of raw denim that fit me perfectly and I've been breaking in for a year). I'm not buying new clothes to accommodate a phone, so the 6 might be out for me.
 

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So apparently AT&T is giving $200 for trade-ins of iPhone 4, 4S, 5, 5C and $300 for 5S. I have an old 4 sitting around as well as my 5S, and I'm thinking I can get $500 for the two of them and pay $50 out of pocket for a 64 GB iPhone 6 ($200 subsidy upgrading 1 year early, so $549 price before trade-in credit). I still feel like 64 GB is just way more space than I'll ever use on my phone, but oh well.
 

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I don't know how the AT&T trade-in works. 
 
With Verizon, I'll get a $200 gift card for my iPhone 4. I can use the gift card to pay monthly bills. I am still going to be "out of pocket" the price of the iPhone 6 the day they ship it to me and run the charge on my credit card.
 

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So apparently AT&T is giving $200 for trade-ins of iPhone 4, 4S, 5, 5C and $300 for 5S. I have an old 4 sitting around as well as my 5S, and I'm thinking I can get $500 for the two of them and pay $50 out of pocket for a 64 GB iPhone 6 ($200 subsidy upgrading 1 year early, so $549 price before trade-in credit). I still feel like 64 GB is just way more space than I'll ever use on my phone, but oh well.
Woah, I have two old 4s I haven't turned on in a year or more. Any details on how this works? I wasn't going to get a new phone (get a new battery in my 5 this week) but I'll do it if I can pull this off.
 
I've been out of Internet contact for the past two weeks, can someone point me to a side-by-side comparison of the 6 and 6 Plus? The only difference I know is the size, cost and I think the Plus battery is substantially larger.
 

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I'm really, really struggling with whether to opt for the regular 6 or the Plus.  From reading online, it seems like the Note 3 is the best comparable for the 6 Plus dimensions?  I'm using a Moto X daily so I know that the iPhone6 itself won't be a problem, but it seems like it isn't THAT much larger to go up to the larger phone...