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The league is absolutely stacked this year, with three teams coming down that should all look to bounce back up and three teams coming up that should be good to stay (yes, I understand Wednesday's summer was a mess but things are better than the general consensus. I hope).

Season starts Friday afternoon at 3:00 on ESPN+ as Southampton travels to Hillsborough (there will be a small gathering of Owls at the Phoenix Landing). Tough opener for the Massive as Southampton still has all of the guys they are going to sell (JWP, Lavia, Adams, KWP, Livramento, etc)...curious if Russell Martin rolls out some of those guys or if he tries to play with the guys who will likely be there in 3 weeks.

Season should be a good one as always in this division.
 

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I was backing Coventry all season and as much as you had to love the Luton story I was gutted for that poor guy who missed the penalty in the playoff (and the rest of their team and fans).

Love it when clubs with proud histories win promotions after long spells out of the top flight. I think a resurgent Newcastle needs its derby partner back. Would love to see Wednesday make the jump. Bristol City would be cool. A few others. (Middlesborough, Huddersfield, Watford, meh, sorry to any of their fans here, just doesn't make my pulse race).
 

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Another season to watch QPR be mediocre to bad.

Last year was so weird. We were "going up!" at the 1/3 mark of the season and ended up BARELY hanging on.
 

Dummy Hoy

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Ipswich Town, baby!
Very impressive season...I think they're a little overhyped this year but they should be a solid top half team.

Another season to watch QPR be mediocre to bad.

Last year was so weird. We were "going up!" at the 1/3 mark of the season and ended up BARELY hanging on.
Not sure this season is going to be better. I hope I'm wrong.
 

Dummy Hoy

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Leicester v Coventry and Sunderland v Ipswich are the matches to see this weekend.

I figure two of the three that came down will go back up, but I'm not sure who. This league is so interesting.
 

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Not sure this season is going to be better. I hope I'm wrong.
Yeah. I don't have much hope here. This is a club with EPL roots that no longer seems interested in making the moves necessary to get back there.

They've made a couple of decent adds but are positioned by the sports books in the bottom 4 teams, which is an unsettling place to be. In fact I just read an article that had us in last place with a 62% chance to drop.

If they go to League 1 they will likely never made the EPL again, and here in the States, it's unlikely I will ever be able to see a game on TV for the rest of my life.

It's a bad feeling going IN to a season knowing the absolute ceiling is likely mid table.
 
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Dummy Hoy

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Yeah, that’s a brutal start. Sorry.

I wasn’t super disappointed with Wednesday’s loss. We ceded possession and lacked the quality in CM to counter as quickly as we wanted, but for a team with a new manager, new formation, some new players, and playing a team with a substantial budget difference (£350m to £14…Ward-Prowse alone is worth 3x our 23 man roster), I thought we did alright. Keep our shape (largely), limited their chances (largely), and looked positively frisky at times, especially in the second half after some changes. I had them pegged for 19th or so and I didn’t see anything that tells me I’m wrong.
 

Dummy Hoy

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Nice bounce back for QPR- I had Cardiff to go down so their week one performance was a surprise.
Norwich and Southampton played to a wild 4-4 draw at St, Marys.
Wednesday played like crap and got the beating they deserved. Huddersfield, and surprisingly Boro and Sunderland join them as winless teams.
Ipswich and Leicester remain the only two perfect teams after two weeks.
 

Stanley Steamer

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Leeds are a dumpster fire at the moment. We just have to get to September then reassess. The contracts the club handed out, with relegation escape clauses, are coming back to bite them. I do think we have a good manager, and won't be surprised if ownership proves to be decent in time. For now, it's just a matter of picking up a few points to avoid a horrible start. Forget about going straight back up. That's 2024 talk.
 

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Well DH, I know the season hasn't really gotten off to a bang yet, but Wednesday is due a win one of these days. Saturday perhaps? Has a reverse-lock feel about it to me.
It's been a hard time being a Leeds fan of late, but I do feel they are righting the ship, with Farke and recent much-needed new recruits restoring hope of a good season.
Good luck.
 

Dummy Hoy

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Well DH, I know the season hasn't really gotten off to a bang yet, but Wednesday is due a win one of these days. Saturday perhaps? Has a reverse-lock feel about it to me.
It's been a hard time being a Leeds fan of late, but I do feel they are righting the ship, with Farke and recent much-needed new recruits restoring hope of a good season.
Good luck.
Cheers bud. A Leeds supporting friend of mine came over to watch the game. We drank some coffee stouts from our in-town brewery and had a lovely time.

Leeds looked very dangerous in patches, especially early on with their attacks from out wide. Wednesday was forced to drop into a back 5 and that ended up basically killing the rest of the game. Leeds with some moments of individual brilliance almost unlocked things but it wasn't to be (Djed Spence playing for Farke is going to be scary). Thought Wednesday looked spritely after their subs and had a couple of chances to steal 3. Given that we desperately needed anything, grabbing a point at Elland Road wasn't a bad result for us at all. Thought Wednesday showed some improvements in team tactics off the ball...we pressed a bit better and were definitely more cohesive at the back. Hopefully an extra week on the training pitch will only help that. I really want to see Xisco continue to try to install his system, even if it looks bad at first or we need to drop some veterans who just don't provide what we need.
 

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Dummy Hoy

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Very promising start under new manager Danny Rohl (youngest in the EFL) and of course the batshit crazy owner goes and lights everything on fire.

This fucking club
 

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I'll be at the Den for Millwall v Southampton on Saturday. I'm pretty excited. Looks like it will be a pretty full house.

Not an awful start to the season for Millwall, but not great either. Their manager left by "mutual consent" a couple weeks ago (which actually seems to be the true reason) and they have an interim manager now. They just need a couple wins and will be back in the higher end of the table.
 

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I'll be at the Den for Millwall v Southampton on Saturday. I'm pretty excited. Looks like it will be a pretty full house.

Not an awful start to the season for Millwall, but not great either. Their manager left by "mutual consent" a couple weeks ago (which actually seems to be the true reason) and they have an interim manager now. They just need a couple wins and will be back in the higher end of the table.
Sounds like a good time, and I hope you beat them. That said, supporting Millwall seems like a hard row to hoe-- what's your connection to the club ernie?
 

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Sounds like a good time, and I hope you beat them. That said, supporting Millwall seems like a hard row to hoe-- what's your connection to the club ernie?
I was living/studying in SE London in 1995 when they had a big FA Cup run - beating Chelsea and Arsenal. I knew nothing about the club (or much about English soccer at all) - just that they were "my local team," so I latched on to them. The next season I was back in the U.S. and would sometimes check in how they were doing. As I remember, at Christmas they were in a promotion spot for the Premier League. I then checked in at the end of the season and they had been relegated to what is now League One. I said to myself "yeah - this seems like the team for me."

I've been to the Den about 8 times - and seen them twice at Wembley (old and new). Not much glory, but they definitely keep it interesting.
 

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Doesn't anyone care about the Championship? I know I do, as well as a few others.
Time for an update, about 2/3 of the way through the season. Up top, Leicester look all but assured for promotion, with an eleven point lead on second. There should be a good battle for second, and automatic promotion, between white-hot Southampton and red-hot Leeds. So, all the most recently relegated clubs. Ipswich is still right in it, but fading a bit. As most of you know, the playoffs are a crapshoot, and many clubs are in with a shout, with West Brom being the most likely to feature.
At the bottom end, Rotherham appear to be on a greased slide to oblivion, or League One if you prefer. Wednesday made a spirited run to revive their chances, but seem to be slipping again. The last relegation spot is up for grabs, with QPR in pole position, but 5 or 6 teams in some danger. I feel certain Birmingham would have gone down had they not given Rooney the sack. Man, can that guy not coach!
That's most of it, but the football is of good quality, and the competition benefits from not having clubs too big to go down. We can always make room for Everton, hopefully Man U one day.
Chime in, if you have anything to add.
 

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Doesn't anyone care about the Championship? I know I do, as well as a few others.
Time for an update, about 2/3 of the way through the season. Up top, Leicester look all but assured for promotion, with an eleven point lead on second. There should be a good battle for second, and automatic promotion, between white-hot Southampton and red-hot Leeds. So, all the most recently relegated clubs. Ipswich is still right in it, but fading a bit. As most of you know, the playoffs are a crapshoot, and many clubs are in with a shout, with West Brom being the most likely to feature.
At the bottom end, Rotherham appear to be on a greased slide to oblivion, or League One if you prefer. Wednesday made a spirited run to revive their chances, but seem to be slipping again. The last relegation spot is up for grabs, with QPR in pole position, but 5 or 6 teams in some danger. I feel certain Birmingham would have gone down had they not given Rooney the sack. Man, can that guy not coach!
That's most of it, but the football is of good quality, and the competition benefits from not having clubs too big to go down. We can always make room for Everton, hopefully Man U one day.
Chime in, if you have anything to add.
All I got is hoping for QPR to hang on. Big 3 points yesterday but a very big hill to climb
 

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I hear you, DH. Wednesday lose away tonight to Leicester, but there's no shame in that. There's a lot of football left to be played.
I'm stoked to finally see Southampton lose, 3-1 to Bristol City, halting a 25 game unbeaten run. Quite amazing, really.
Leeds stomp Swansea 4-0 to move up to 2nd place, having played a game more. But it rewards them for their excellent recent play, and could be a psychological lift.
As I type that, I no longer believe it.
 

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Pretty tight race for the two automatic promotion spots. Leicester with 88 points and a game in hand, Ipswich also with 88 points and Leeds lurking with 87 points. Leeds currently has the top GD as well, although they are only +1 on Leicester, who has the game in hand. WBA and Southampton looked locked into the play-off, and Norwich has a decent edge on Coventry and Preston with four games to play.

The fight at the bottom is just as vicious. Rotherham are already going down, but Birmingham City, Sheffield Wednesday, Plymouth, Stoke, Blackburn, Millwall and QPR are all at potential risk and will be stabbing each other over the final four matchdays.
 

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The fight at the bottom is just as vicious. Rotherham are already going down, but Birmingham City, Sheffield Wednesday, Plymouth, Stoke, Blackburn, Millwall and QPR are all at potential risk and will be stabbing each other over the final four matchdays.
In their last three games: Millwall gave up 90+ minute goals to lose to both Rotherham and Huddersfield - and looked to be headed towards certain relegation. But then on Tuesday, they beat top-of-the-table Leicester with a golazzo (see below) for a vital 3 points.

It's never dull being a Millwall fan.

View: https://youtu.be/ToVxNkiUS0M?si=5XMs6b1C8r4bGOsW&t=36
 

Dummy Hoy

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And both fucking Leeds and Leicester lose to relegation candidates to start the weekend.

I fucking hate football
 

Dummy Hoy

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QPR with a huge win today as well.

Wednesday with a must win at Blackburn tomorrow morning at 7:30. A win pulls us out of the relegation spots and allows us to control our own destiny. Annual Owls Americas meet-up takes place NEXT weekend in Halifax NS...be nice to have some hop going into the final two fixtures.
 

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QPR with a huge win today as well.

Wednesday with a must win at Blackburn tomorrow morning at 7:30. A win pulls us out of the relegation spots and allows us to control our own destiny. Annual Owls Americas meet-up takes place NEXT weekend in Halifax NS...be nice to have some hop going into the final two fixtures.
QPR is in a good spot now. Not 100% safe but probably 95%. Phew.
 

Dummy Hoy

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we're drinking at Niche Lounge for the game and then off to the Wanderers game. Rest of the weekend is a drunken blur
 

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QPR with a huge win today as well.

Wednesday with a must win at Blackburn tomorrow morning at 7:30. A win pulls us out of the relegation spots and allows us to control our own destiny. Annual Owls Americas meet-up takes place NEXT weekend in Halifax NS...be nice to have some hop going into the final two fixtures.
Incredible turnaround to the Wednesday season. I thought they were headed down first after their start then when they hit a run of poor form but now 45 minutes to safety.
 

Dummy Hoy

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Worst 10 game start in EFL history, 3 points from the first 13 games. Amazing

Danny! Danny Röhl! Danny! Danny Röhl!
 

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I lived in England in the mid 1970s when my dad worked there. We were Ipswich Town supporters as they were the closest First Division (as it was then) team to us. This coincided with a great run the team had under Bobby Robson - won the FA Cup in 1978 (went to Wembley for the final), very competitive in the league, finishing as high as second one year. Moved back to the US and lost track of them, but have followed them a bit from a distance since my son got me back into soccer in the 2004ish time frame. I think I saw them on TV playing Chelsea in the FA Cup five or ten years ago.

All this to say that I'm very excited that they're back in the Premiership after a 22 year absence. My son and I are already thinking of going over to see a game. I'm reasonably realistic about the low likelihood that the club will have the resources to compete at the next level though, and it seems like McKenna will be a hot name on the managerial market. He has done a pretty remarkable job with a team that was completely irrelevant just a few years ago.
 

Dummy Hoy

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I have actively disliked Ipswich and their progression, but I will just say, that Kiean McKenna deserves all the support and all the monies that the ownership has
 

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I have actively disliked Ipswich and their progression, but I will just say, that Kiean McKenna deserves all the support and all the monies that the ownership has
Why?

genuinely curious, not trying to be contrary.
 

the1andonly3003

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Why?

genuinely curious, not trying to be contrary.
I came here to post about Ipswich being in the PL next season. Are NBC Sports going to go all in with Ed Sheeran next season? This is the PL's chance to counter the NFL's Swiftie bump. Ed Sheeran's Mathematics Tour is the Ipswich kit sponsor, and those kits will surely outnumber any other PL kit you will season on the streets of the US next year. Ed is a much bigger star than JJ Watt.

If NBC really wants that NFL-PL crossover, they can have Swift and Sheeran sing one of their collabs during the NFL/PL season. The female viewership for NBC will definitely skyrocket now!