How Big Of A Deal Is Luis Gil?

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Another dominant outing by Luis Gil today. One infield single and two walks over 6.1 innings today. The kid is on quite a run:

View: https://twitter.com/ktsharp/status/1793710231815610859


He currently leads MLB in BAA at .143.

Early in the season he was very prone to wildness, which is maybe not surprising for a young kid coming back from TJ, but in his recent starts he has really kept that in check and that has been key to his success.

So, I ask, how big of a deal is Luis Gil?
 
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So much to be impressed by, his stuff is incredible. My favorite stat of his currently is hits allowed per start, today was his 10th start:

1
2
3
2
7
2
1
3
5
1

Just 27 hits allowed in 55.1 innings for the season, and the only one today was pretty dubious.
 
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He has one more start but he has to be the frontrunner for pitcher of the month:

30.2 12 2 2 10 35
 
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Just saw someone say on X that the Padres could have selected Clarke Schmidt AND Luis Gil in the Juan Soto deal.

The Yankees appear to have gotten very, very lucky.
 
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Wingack said:
Just saw someone say on X that the Padres could have selected Clarke Schmidt AND Luis Gil in the Juan Soto deal.

The Yankees appear to have gotten very, very lucky.
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Those two would have replaced King and Thorpe in the deal presumably, and NY could then presumably have spun Thorpe into Cease as SD did if they had wanted. So I think they'd be fine this season and next, with both Cease and King controlled through 2025, but they'd be in worse shape longer term with Schmidt controlled through 2027 and Gil through 2028, and of course both are much cheaper.

Anyway, Gil was a former top 100 prospect but no one knew what to expect from him coming back from injury again. NY actually sent him down to the minors very early in spring training (March 3) but after Cole went down, Gil continued to look great in spring training games, and eventually he won the job and has not looked back.
 
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This thread has gotten me thinking about who is the best bang for the buck in MLB right now. Obviously guys like Ohtani and Mookie are putting up ridiculous production, but they also cost a fortune, so they're not the best "value". Guys like Gil and Houck and Gunnar Henderson are guys representing the best value - giving tremendous production at essentially no cost.
 
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BaseballJones said:
This thread has gotten me thinking about who is the best bang for the buck in MLB right now. Obviously guys like Ohtani and Mookie are putting up ridiculous production, but they also cost a fortune, so they're not the best "value". Guys like Gil and Houck and Gunnar Henderson are guys representing the best value - giving tremendous production at essentially no cost.
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Gunnar might be having a 10+ WAR season for peanuts. Has to be him. He might be AL MVP as of today.
 
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It's almost always going to be a young guy who is playing well because Mookie's salary is like 40x Henderson's, and even if Mookie is having a better season, it's not FORTY times better. Obviously.
 
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Luis Gil has to be AL pitcher of the month, 6 starts, 6-0 W/L:

38.2 14 3 3 12 44

0.70 ERA, .672 WHIP

Just 14 hits allowed in 6 games, .101 BAA.
 
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Right now Gil is allowing just 4.1 hits per 9 innings this season, 29 hits in 63.1 innings.

For context, Nolan Ryan is the alltime leader in lowest H/9 at 6.55. This is pretty amazing considering Ryan threw more innings (5386) than the guys in 2nd (Koufax, 2324.1) and 3rd (Kershaw, 2712.2) combined.
 
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Whoa I forgot how off the charts DeGrom's numbers in 2021 were:

15 starts, 92 innings.

92 40 14 11 11 146

1.08 ERA and an absolutely absurd 3.9 hits per nine innings allowed. Those K/BB numbers are unreal.

On a related note, Gil's H/9 for 2024 is down to 3.9 now also, 12 starts/69.1 innings/30 hits allowed.
 
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Pretty amazing and he has such incredible poise on the mound.
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I thought he intentionally pitched around Royce Lewis twice tonight, 1st AB with the score 0-0 and 2nd NY up 1-0. Gil only walked one other guy through 6, Lewis homered his next AB up (against Kahnle), I thought that was impressively mature strategy as it was happening and even better how it worked out.
 
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Not to interrupt the Yankee-Mod circle-jerk (respectfully said), but yeah, he seems to have figured something out. Is he throwing a new pitch or something like that?

He and Houck are rivalry twins right now.
 
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It's obviously not a new pitch, but his fastball is what makes him special. At this point, everyone knows that's his best pitch and is gearing up for it, but they still can't hit it. His changeup is good, nothing special, but he can consistently locate it and it doesn't need to be great to play really well off his fastball. He also mixes in a slider which is also good but not great, but again, it's enough to get results against hitters who aren't looking for it.
 
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CaptainLaddie said:
Not to interrupt the Yankee-Mod circle-jerk (respectfully said), but yeah, he seems to have figured something out. Is he throwing a new pitch or something like that?
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He hasn’t been healthy since 2021, he wasn’t even a serious consideration for the rotation this year until he started pitching like this in spring training and hasn’t stopped. He has been on top 100 lists in the past (BA even had him this year, to their credit) and when he first came up in August 2021, his first three outings were scoreless, 15.1 total. I believe his changeup now is much better than then also.
 
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cromulence said:
It's obviously not a new pitch, but his fastball is what makes him special. At this point, everyone knows that's his best pitch and is gearing up for it, but they still can't hit it. His changeup is good, nothing special, but he can consistently locate it and it doesn't need to be great to play really well off his fastball. He also mixes in a slider which is also good but not great, but again, it's enough to get results against hitters who aren't looking for it.
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Regarding the change up, you are absolutely right about how well he is locating it.

View: https://twitter.com/Jomboy_/status/1798136879281299864
 
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