Instead of cluttering up the the threads on Napoli and the other FAs with every unconfirmed Twitter rumor out there, let's just stick them in here until they become actual news.
gmogmo said:http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/jon-heyman/24204064/drew-to-decline-qualifying-offer-aims-much-much-higher-than-that
There's one draft pick they'll be adding....
gmogmo said:http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/jon-heyman/24204064/drew-to-decline-qualifying-offer-aims-much-much-higher-than-that
There's one draft pick they'll be adding....
No. Teams no longer get the forfeited pick from the signing team. They lose their 2d round pick. We get a supplemental first round pick.selahsean said:
So when the Mets sign him we get their 2nd highest pick right?
glennhoffmania said:Why do people keep linking Drew to the Yankees? Do they know something about Jeter that we don't?
selahsean said:
So when the Mets sign him we get their 2nd highest pick right?
glennhoffmania said:Why do people keep linking Drew to the Yankees? Do they know something about Jeter that we don't?
brs3 said:The guy can't play shortstop anymore. He'll try, and he'll fail.
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/jon-heyman/24204195/red-sox-show-interest-in-tim-hudson-braves-others-still-in-playThe Red Sox are among several teams to have checked in on veteran starter Tim Hudson. While Boston is said to be a big admirer of the right-hander, it's still a little hard to imagine the loyal Hudson leaving the Braves.
Hudson is drawing significant interest from around the league (MLB.com reported the Indians and Royals, too), but Boston's interest is intriguing, and maybe even to Hudson, who just saw the Red Sox win the World Series. One person familiar with the champs' thinking said, "They really want him."
Of course, Boston is already very well-stocked with starting pitching, having just won with six guys manning five spots. The Red Sox have to do something to make room for Hudson if they could make a deal with him.
No doubt. I think he's at the point where he literally cannot play baseball every day. If ARod's suspension is held up, moving Jeter to third might make him less likely to crumble to the ground.Rasputin said:
He couldn't even really play shortstop when he could play shortstop. I'm not sure there has been anyone as good as Jeter was, who was simultaneously as overrated as Jeter was.
soxhop411 said:
Jeff Passan @JeffPassan28m
One thing is clear early in free agency: Winning, a great clubhouse and big $ has made Boston a very desirable destination for free agents.
Night and day from last offseason….
gmogmo said:http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/jon-heyman/24204064/drew-to-decline-qualifying-offer-aims-much-much-higher-than-that
There's one draft pick they'll be adding....
While Boras wouldn't even address the qualifying offer issue, he scoffed at the speculation (mine included here in my free-agent roundup) that Drew could wind up with a three-year contract, saying, "A three-year deal, for a 30-year-old free agent, really?"
Boras also said, "Are these writers aware of what Elvins Andrus signed for?" The younger Andrus received $120 million over eight years, though he was not yet a free agent.
brs3 said:No doubt. I think he's at the point where he literally cannot play baseball every day. If ARod's suspension is held up, moving Jeter to third might make him less likely to crumble to the ground.
glennhoffmania said:Why do people keep linking Drew to the Yankees? Do they know something about Jeter that we don't?
DennyDoyle'sBoil said:
I wonder if the Yankees would try to convince Drew to play 3B while A-Rod is gone.
I like Kemp but you would have to wonder how much does he cost and if he can stay healthy. He's 29 and locked up through his age 35 season. I would be wary of taking on a contract like that when the player has only played a combined 179 games over the last two seasons. Sure he's been productive but you can't sit here and tell me he's going to be a sure thing to hold up over the course of a season.chester said:http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/hot-stove-rumors-troy-tulowitzki-matt-kemp-andre-ethier-carl-crawford-carlos-gonzalez-allen-craig-trevor-rosenthal-110713
I know it is risk, but is it too much of a risk to go after Kemp. 6/120 is the price if they have to pay full which is pretty close to while Ells might end up costing.
It obviously matters what the Dodgers what in return but with the way we have been able to fleece them before we may get a good deal and even get them to pick up some of that contract.
All I know is a fully capable Kemp in Fenway CF would be amazing and unthinkable a few years ago.
Tyrone Biggums said:I like Kemp but you would have to wonder how much does he cost and if he can stay healthy. He's 29 and locked up through his age 35 season. I would be wary of taking on a contract like that when the player has only played a combined 179 games over the last two seasons. Sure he's been productive but you can't sit here and tell me he's going to be a sure thing to hold up over the course of a season.
chester said:All I know is a fully capable Kemp in Fenway CF would be amazing and unthinkable a few years ago.
The biggest similarity is that both had one huge outlier HR season that makes fantasy baseball managers in hot stove threads salivate. If you are paying for Kemp's impersonation of Miggy Cabrera from 2011, you are overpaying. It's exactly what the Dodgers did when they gave him 8/$160 million.knucklecup said:I see a lot of similarities between Ellsbury entering the 2013 season and Kemp entering the 2014 season. I think he rakes next year and I will certainly be targeting him in the early rounds of fantasy leagues.
Red(s)HawksFan said:
With six starters already in the mix (just counting the guys under contract who can't be optioned/stashed in AAA), adding Hudson would arguably necessitate moving two starters. Cheap or not, if Hudson is looking to continue to be a starting pitcher, the Red Sox seem like an ill-fit for him.
Ellsbury doesn't interest me at all. Kemp is too much of an injury risk. All things considered I would rather have Kemp at 6/120 than Ellsbury at 7/150 or something like that. I would rather have JBJ than either and spend the money elsewhere such as extending some of the current players on the roster and bringing back Napoli/Salty on short term deals.Savin Hillbilly said:
Kemp in Fenway CF is unthinkable all right, but not in a good way.
Kemp in Fenway LF is a little more thinkable, but not cost-effective.
Kemp in Fenway as DH is highly thinkable, but not, at the moment, feasible.
There isn't a single one of LA's overpaid outfielders that interests me.
Tyrone Biggums said:Ellsbury doesn't interest me at all. Kemp is too much of an injury risk. All things considered I would rather have Kemp at 6/120 than Ellsbury at 7/150 or something like that. I would rather have JBJ than either and spend the money elsewhere such as extending some of the current players on the roster and bringing back Napoli/Salty on short term deals.
BosRedSox5 said:With Andre Ethier being the most likely trade candidate... and with him being Pedroia's best pal... and with him having an OPS+ of 120 or better for 6 straight years... and with him being a gold glove outfielder... why wouldn't we be interested in getting him and sticking him in LF full time. Ethier, JBJ and Victorino make a formidable offensive and defensive OF. Ethier's been a consistent offensive presence for his whole career. I could see a move to Fenway benefitting him, and benefitting the Red Sox.
radsoxfan said:
The simple answer is that he's not a good defensive outfielder, and is signed to huge money for his age 32-36 years.
Depends how much of a subsidy the Dodgers are willing to kick in I suppose, but unless it's a huge portion of the contract, definitely pass on Ethier.
His last three years of OF defense have been +7.5, -2.6, -1.3 and the last year involved him playing 645 out of 1141 innings in CF, he was a positive UZR defender in both RF and LF last season.radsoxfan said:
The simple answer is that he's not a good defensive outfielder (negative career OF UZR, and negative at all 3 OF positions individually), and is signed to pretty big money for his age 32-36 years. His offense isn't bad, but not sure you want to bet on the decline portion of his career as being anything special.
Depends how much of a subsidy the Dodgers are willing to kick in I suppose, but unless it's a huge portion of the contract, definitely pass on Ethier.
radsoxfan said:Again the subsidy if the key. If the Dodgers are paying close to half the salary, all of a sudden it becomes very reasonable.
I responded to a post describing him as a gold glove outfielder by calling him "not good". I pointed out that overall his UZR's for his career are negative at all 3 positions, and negative overall. I didn't call him a butcher by any means, but I would stick with his career UZR numbers rather than trying to divide it up to find some smaller positive sample sizes. Plus, if anything, I would expect him to get worse on D rather than improve in his age 32-35 seasons.
If someone thinks they're getting an above average defender by trading for Ethier, then they will be disappointed when he gets here. At the same time, he would be a better backup defensive RF than Nava, and would be a nice platoon guy for Gomes. I still would want at least 25-30M kicked in from the Dodgers, and no prospects of consequence going the other way.
bosockboy said:I'd prefer a subsidized Ethier over Beltran, but is Ethier 12 million a year better than Nava?
Snodgrass'Muff said:
You seem to be suggesting that a player cannot improve defensively. There appears to be a very real change made after the 2010 season, when he was going into his age 29 season. For the last three years he's been an average defender, even if you include his time in center field. I think that data is more relevant than how he performed four, five or six years ago. Then you move him to left where you can cut down on the need for range 81 times a year and I think he gets a very nice boost. I'd be very surprised if he wasn't an above average defender in left field while playing for the Red Sox.
$15.5 Million next season, $18 Million in '15 and '16, 17.5 M in '17 with a vested option of 17.5 M (2.5M buyout) in '18. 4 years/69 M Avg 17.25/year) not counting the option year. I think that's a lot of commitment for Ethier.With Andre Ethier being the most likely trade candidate... and with him being Pedroia's best pal... and with him having an OPS+ of 120 or better for 6 straight years... and with him being a gold glove outfielder... why wouldn't we be interested in getting him and sticking him in LF full time. Ethier, JBJ and Victorino make a formidable offensive and defensive OF. Ethier's been a consistent offensive presence for his whole career. I could see a move to Fenway benefitting him, and benefitting the Red Sox.
Savin Hillbilly said:First signing of offseason shakes loose a catcher possibility for Boston
I think this is the article Hillbilly meant.Rasputin said:Did you mean this to be a link to this thread?
Rasputin said:
Did you mean this to be a link to this thread?
http://fullcount.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/2013/11/10/source-red-sox-have-shown-some-interest-in-a-j-pierzynski/
According to a major league source, the Red Sox have shown some interest in free agent catcher A.J. Pierzynski.
The backstop — who will turn 37 years-old Dec. 30 — played on a one-year, $7.5 million contract with the Rangers in 2013.
Pierzynski totaled 134 games in ’13, hitting .272 with a .722 OPS and 17 home runs. The left-handed hitter actually hit 10 points higher against lefty pitching than right-handers (.279-.269).
Pierzynski’s strength continues to be his bat, although he doesn’t display the kind of patience the Red Sox usually look for. (He walked just three times in the season’s second half.) He is considered a fierce competitor — a trait that has sometimes drawn ire from opponents. The Orlando native has also been singled out for his above-average game awareness.
The 16-year veteran’s defensive skills have diminished, with his ability to frame pitches particularly coming into question last season. But Pierzynski is still considered durable, catching 119 games or more in each of the past 12 seasons.
...and yet, in polls commissioned by publications, including this one, over the past half-dozen years or so, he has been voted by his opponents as the player they would most like to see beaned (2006), baseball's meanest player (2011) and baseball's most hated player (2012). "Now, when those polls come out, it'd be a big upset if somebody else won," he said, resignedly.
soxhop411 said:
http://fullcount.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/2013/11/10/source-red-sox-have-shown-some-interest-in-a-j-pierzynski/
According to a major league source, the Red Sox have shown some interest in free agent catcher A.J. Pierzynski.