I will admit that Basketball stats are a blind spot for me. And I may not be applying this correctly....But....
We talk alot about "PP getting hunted and is thus unplayable" (in the playoffs anyway). That infers to me that EVERYTIME down the court on Defense then PP gives up points. (obviously EVERYTIME is hyperbole but bear with me).
But I wonder is there Value in PP being just good enough to help his team score EVERYTIME offensively despite being hunted and giving up points on defense EVERYTIME.
Again hyperbole. But if PP on the floor gives up 1.26 points per possession (or whatever) but is part of an offense that scores 1.20 ppp.......is that really unplayable? for 10-20 mins?
In other words.......is there value in getting a @0 net rating for 10 mins a game? 20?
Obviously -1 Would be slightly worse.....but over say 15 mins a game not the end of the world. -2 worse still but still not the end of the world. Granted at some point it would be too much for the Rested Starter that PP facilitates to overcome.
Basically.....is there a Basketball equivalent to an innings eater. And how far below avg would they have to be to be a real detriment.
Especially for THIS Celtics team who has such a large positive net rating with the starters. JT,JB,KP etc etc can help cover alot of PPs warts while in there with him and helping to maintain a 0 Net rating or by being rested and scoring +5 or +10 over when they are back on the floor. Because the celtics are "so good at scoring" (1.2ppp in the example) they can ....."allow" 1.26 or 1.3 over 10 mins and it not be horrible.
Maybe PP is a bad example.
Maybe I am misapplying Net Rating.
But essentially "How badly would PP need to be hunted to make him the negative we all believe he would be". Can he "Eat innings" and still provide (Playoff) value.
Finally how does 3pters factor in? PP would obviously be a "better defender when defending the 3pter" then in the post....or on the drive. So Allowing Butler to score 2 point post ups "consistently" might be offset even more by the fact that PP might facilitate (by virtue of his own shot or because the team is a very good 3pt shooting team) More 3s to counter those consistent Jimmy Butler 2s.
Maybe I am way off.....but figured you guys would have some insight.
We talk alot about "PP getting hunted and is thus unplayable" (in the playoffs anyway). That infers to me that EVERYTIME down the court on Defense then PP gives up points. (obviously EVERYTIME is hyperbole but bear with me).
But I wonder is there Value in PP being just good enough to help his team score EVERYTIME offensively despite being hunted and giving up points on defense EVERYTIME.
Again hyperbole. But if PP on the floor gives up 1.26 points per possession (or whatever) but is part of an offense that scores 1.20 ppp.......is that really unplayable? for 10-20 mins?
In other words.......is there value in getting a @0 net rating for 10 mins a game? 20?
Obviously -1 Would be slightly worse.....but over say 15 mins a game not the end of the world. -2 worse still but still not the end of the world. Granted at some point it would be too much for the Rested Starter that PP facilitates to overcome.
Basically.....is there a Basketball equivalent to an innings eater. And how far below avg would they have to be to be a real detriment.
Especially for THIS Celtics team who has such a large positive net rating with the starters. JT,JB,KP etc etc can help cover alot of PPs warts while in there with him and helping to maintain a 0 Net rating or by being rested and scoring +5 or +10 over when they are back on the floor. Because the celtics are "so good at scoring" (1.2ppp in the example) they can ....."allow" 1.26 or 1.3 over 10 mins and it not be horrible.
Maybe PP is a bad example.
Maybe I am misapplying Net Rating.
But essentially "How badly would PP need to be hunted to make him the negative we all believe he would be". Can he "Eat innings" and still provide (Playoff) value.
Finally how does 3pters factor in? PP would obviously be a "better defender when defending the 3pter" then in the post....or on the drive. So Allowing Butler to score 2 point post ups "consistently" might be offset even more by the fact that PP might facilitate (by virtue of his own shot or because the team is a very good 3pt shooting team) More 3s to counter those consistent Jimmy Butler 2s.
Maybe I am way off.....but figured you guys would have some insight.