Footy broadcasting - What do we have?

Jul 15, 2005
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As a Comcast customer, I'm am totally on board keeping the status quo. SkySports simulcast weekday mornings add quite a bit of value, as well as the 24/7 PLTV on Peacock. Doubt ESPN or CBS would devote that much resources into PL. It's a good thing that NBC isn't packed with the major American sports to devote attention to EPL.
 

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NBC has presented the EPL with great production values and a likable studio crew since day 1. I'd love to see them keep the rights as long as they work the Peacock bugs out.
 

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I like Peacock well enough. Watching Paramount yesterday--my biggest gripe is that you can't pause and rewind during the match. If I had to guess, it's a cost of operability issue, but it also may be a specific contract term regarding what type of time-shifting is permitted as part of the grant of rights.
 
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I still don't understand why NBC would shut down NBCSN. They have enough rights to fill its schedule from Nascar to EPL and mid-tier college sports (and even year round Olympic sports).
It seems more logical to merge Bravo with USA than merging it with their sports programming. NBC+NBCSN+Peacock just seems like a natural fit of network/cable/overflow streaming of their rights deals, with the 10AM ET Saturday match window being the perfect example. (ESPN nor CBS does this with their Serie A/La Liga/Bundesliga/EFL schedules)

Then again, I am not a network executive.
 

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I like Peacock well enough. Watching Paramount yesterday--my biggest gripe is that you can't pause and rewind during the match.
Unless something changed drastically since last weekend, you can't do anything but watch Peacock live. You can't join late and start at the beginning, can't FF/RW. This feature was included with NBCSN.
 
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Peacock Screenshot

Grabbed a screenshot of a rewind back to the start of the Liverpool-Palace match after the final whistle (Peacock seems to block the images from the copy)
Is this the best way to share images here?

Am I the only one who can rewind like this?
 

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It’s looking like DAZN is in negotiations with BT Sport to buy their domestic premier league rights. They are currently shared between BT Sports, Sky and Amazon.


They currently own foreign rights (for example , streaming here in Canada - which also has the rights to the CL and Europa and League Cup … not to mention La Liga ). How does this work currently in the UK? All those are currently cable subscriptions presumably?

This would mean a third of all domestic games would be only available on a streaming service.
 

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It’s looking like DAZN is in negotiations with BT Sport to buy their domestic premier league rights. They are currently shared between BT Sports, Sky and Amazon.


They currently own foreign rights (for example , streaming here in Canada - which also has the rights to the CL and Europa and League Cup … not to mention La Liga ). How does this work currently in the UK? All those are currently cable subscriptions presumably?

This would mean a third of all domestic games would be only available on a streaming service.
I don’t it’s a third, I think BT might have 1 or 2 PL games a weekend. (On a typical weekend, most PL games are not broadcast domestically due to blackout rules)
 
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Looks like European championships is going to Fox Sports
SBJ Media: Fox set to grab UEFA European Championships (sportsbusinessjournal.com)

Fox Sports is close to taking the UEFA European Championship rights from ESPN, according to several sources. Nothing has been signed officially yet, but sources expect a deal for U.S. rights to be announced within the next two weeks. ESPN has held these rights since 2008 and has built up the Euros into a jewel event. Deal terms still are being negotiated, but sources say that Fox will have the rights through 2028, which would include Euro 2024 and Euro 2028, in addition to the UEFA Nations League and European qualifiers.
Also an update on where EPL rights are heading
CBS, ESPN and Fox are expected to join NBC in submitting formal bids for the Premier League’s U.S. media rights next month, according to several sources. NBC’s current deal ends in May. The league has told interested companies to submit bids by Nov. 8. The Premier League has said that it will consider bids that split the rights between two media companies, a big change from how it has previously marketed its U.S. rights, which to date has only been held by one network.
 

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Oh fuck that with a pineapple. It’s bad enough the way NBC splits it. If they share it with multiple networks you’re going to need even more subscriptions.
 

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I don't subscribe to The Athletic, but apparently this article has more details: https://theathletic.com/2891177/2021/10/19/premier-league-us-tv-rights-billion-deal-nine-years-possible/
from that article:

The Athletic understands the league’s 20 clubs were shown some remarkable numbers at their most recent shareholders’ meeting in September. According to research by market analysis specialists Neilsen this summer, soccer is the fourth most popular sport in the US, behind American football, basketball and baseball but ahead of ice hockey.

Furthermore, soccer fans are younger, more diverse and wealthier than fans of America’s traditional “big four” sports, and soccer’s following is growing at a faster rate, too.

MLS has the biggest overall following, but the Premier League has the largest number of “core” fans.

This audience, carefully nurtured by NBC, has more than doubled since 2013, and more than half of all US soccer fans watch Premier League games. In fact, more than a quarter of them only watch the Premier League.

A survey by London-based firm Ampere Analysis found that 15 per cent of American sports fans were interested in the Premier League, up from 12 per cent in 2019. Nearly one in 10 sports fans said they would be willing to pay to watch English top-flight games, an increase of 50 per cent in two years.
In short the EPL knows it’s American TV rights are hugely valuable and are gunning to structure a deal that balance cash commitment and number of eyeballs drawn to their sponsors’ logos. Could be one company, could be split up across a few NFL style. But they are stoking competition to max out.
 

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Specific question here, but does anyone else have trouble casting ESPN+ to a smart TV? I have a new Vizio and I have the ESPN+ subscription. When I try to cast the ESPN+ app broadcast from my iPhone (12 Pro) to my TV, the option is there but it never works. Halp plz and TIA
 

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Specific question here, but does anyone else have trouble casting ESPN+ to a smart TV? I have a new Vizio and I have the ESPN+ subscription. When I try to cast the ESPN+ app broadcast from my iPhone (12 Pro) to my TV, the option is there but it never works. Halp plz and TIA
I’m going to ask a potentially stupid question, why not just download the ESPN app to your TV and view it there?
 

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Fox signs a 6-year deal with UEFA for:

• UEFA European Football Championship 2024
• UEFA European Football Championship 2028
• UEFA Nations League
• UEFA National Team Competitions (including FIFA World Cup qualifiers and Euro qualifiers)
• All Friendly Matches controlled by UEFA
 

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I can't wait to need three separate subscriptions to catch EPL matches.
I mean, if you root for a team that is playing in Europe, you need Peacock (EPL games), Paramount+ (Europe games) and ESPN+(Cup Games) already if you want to see all the games. Given that those seem to be the networks in contention for the EPL rights, it won't really make a difference to me.
 
I can't wait to need three separate subscriptions to catch EPL matches.
I mean, welcome to how people in the UK have to watch the Premier League? (Sky and BT Sport, plus Amazon Prime for total completists...and that still doesn't let you watch any games in the 3:00 Saturday afternoon window, now that fans are allowed back in post-COVID-ish stadiums.)
 

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I mean, welcome to how people in the UK have to watch the Premier League? (Sky and BT Sport, plus Amazon Prime for total completists...and that still doesn't let you watch any games in the 3:00 Saturday afternoon window, now that fans are allowed back in post-COVID-ish stadiums.)
I agree that UK is a shitshow. I'm not sure we should be modeling it.
 

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Interesting that there’s no Apple.

I was thinking last night that if ABC/ESPN don’t land this, they’re effectively out of futebol in North America for the next decade. Yes, they have rights to Germany and La Liga; but the reality is that competitions with the most eye balls would be elsewhere and their most valuable property remaining would be MLS.
 
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Interesting that there’s no Apple.

I was thinking last night that if ABC/ESPN don’t land this, they’re effectively out of futebol in North America for the next decade. Yes, they have rights to Germany and La Liga; but the reality is that competitions with the most eye balls would be elsewhere and their most valuable property remaining would be MLS.
I think if ESPN loses out on EPL, they shift their focus on MLS and go all in there
 

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I think if ESPN loses out on EPL, they shift their focus on MLS and go all in there
Interesting that there’s no Apple.

I was thinking last night that if ABC/ESPN don’t land this, they’re effectively out of futebol in North America for the next decade. Yes, they have rights to Germany and La Liga; but the reality is that competitions with the most eye balls would be elsewhere and their most valuable property remaining would be MLS.
I was going to mention the USMNT, but there are no competitive games for 7.5 years, outside of the Gold Cup and World Cup which Fox has.
 

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It's one of the fastest growing properties in television and has the youngest average viewer out of any significant sport on TV, which means more people in the key 18-49 demo.
 
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Outside of EPL, NBC Sports has properties Drone Racing or Indy Car Racing and poker. The latter three can go onto Peacock and be fine without NBCSN. Other properties are big enough to go onto big NBC (horse racing, NFL, Notre Dame, Olympic sports).

Anyhow, I am fine with this news. Can't wait for Season 15 of Men in Blazers!
 

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It's basically a conversation, and this part is from Cardenas, not Deitsch: "If you’re a Premier League fan who was avoiding paying for Peacock, you might as well sign up now. Rick Cordella, Peacock’s chief revenue officer told me in April that they strive to have a “well distributed schedule” on the streaming service for each Premier League matchday. Cordella added that NBC is still trying to find the right mix between streaming and linear. Peacock is a relatively new product and Cordella acknowledged that keeping the soccer audience engaged on the platform is a priority."

Not much else of note when it comes to how things will look going forward.
 

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It's basically a conversation, and this part is from Cardenas, not Deitsch: "If you’re a Premier League fan who was avoiding paying for Peacock, you might as well sign up now. Rick Cordella, Peacock’s chief revenue officer told me in April that they strive to have a “well distributed schedule” on the streaming service for each Premier League matchday. Cordella added that NBC is still trying to find the right mix between streaming and linear. Peacock is a relatively new product and Cordella acknowledged that keeping the soccer audience engaged on the platform is a priority."

Not much else of note when it comes to how things will look going forward.
Previous articles relayed that EPL and club advertisers and sponsors don't really like matches on streaming - it limits the number of eyeballs on their logos. So while the big price tag reflects some premium to compensate the EPL for their advertisers dislike of Peacock, I also expect their to be ongoing give and take around how many matches end up on streaming and how many get shunted around NBC's cable channels.