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Say what? I’ve been to Gillette dozens of times since it opened. I’ve sat in the 300’s, 200’s, and 100’s. I’ve spent hours just walking around during the games. And I can honestly say that I have never seen a fight there.
I've got north of 200 games under my belt. I didn't miss a home game at Gillette until November, 2010 when my daughter was born on a Sunday morning, a consecutive streak that ran all the way back to 1996 in Sullivan Stadium.

Sullivan Stadium was an absolute shitshow, especially prior to those years when the team sucked. But since the day they opened Gillette, its been one of the safer venues you could find. Every season ticket holder has been warned that there is a zero tolerance policy for anything, and every single seat in the stadium has a camera trained on it at all times. There were definitely more fights back when it first opened, but I might go to a dozen games before seeing anything of substance. I think I've seen more fights after games outside the stadium than I've seen inside the stadium in the past 15 years, and I could count those on two hands.

You put 60,000 people with alcohol in any setting and there is bound to be some problems, but all in all, safety has never been a concern of mine at a Pats game, or I wouldn't have started bringing my son when he was 4 years old to at least one game a year (he's 15 now and was with me on Sunday night).

I saw more fights in the stands at game 3 of the Sox/Yanks ALCS game in 2003 than I've seen at Gillette total since that night.
 

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I wonder how many assaults take place at the average game. You’d think owners might have some liability after a point.
 

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Yep, I took my kids to their first game at Gillette when they were 10 and 6. Been back many times since. Never been a problem.

I’ve only experienced two incidents, coincidentally at the same game (season opener in 2005 against the Raiders). And it was Pats fans who started it for each.
 

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I wonder how many assaults take place at the average game. You’d think owners might have some liability after a point.
Wouldn’t surprised if this were one of those areas of law where, even if prevalence is way down these days, it happens often enough that the teams have all invested heavily in out of court resolution with non-disclosure agreements that then become a self-reinforcing cycle because there’s almost no public record of people winning suits against teams. Sorta like with colleges and sexual assault. And so then there’s no real way to know—but sometimes if a number seems really low, it actually may mean that the “real” number is somewhat high.
 

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If they set aside a block of seats like they do in European soccer then you'd have a massive block of seats that were basically empty when the Chargers came to town. Also, there are seven Prem League clubs in London alone so the culture of travelling to away games is far more practical.
 

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Say what? I’ve been to Gillette dozens of times since it opened. I’ve sat in the 300’s, 200’s, and 100’s. I’ve spent hours just walking around during the games. And I can honestly say that I have never seen a fight there.

I’ve never seen a fight in the stadium, but I’ve seen a lot of shit talking and more than enough fights in the parking lots. Including a slow motion demolition derby between two people that had no business driving.
 

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Such an awful thing. Idiots and alcohol. I'll never forget being at Joe Robbie in 2004 for December Dolphins/Patriots. The Dolphins were in the midst of a three win season and the pats had one loss, but Brady threw 4 Ints and the Dolphins got the win. After the game I went into the men's room, and it was vicious. I remember being worried for my safety and contemplating trying to hold it for the hour ride home. Dolphin fans gloating about the win, Patriot fans reminding the dolphin fans that their team sucked and the pats were probably going to win the SB anyways (which they did). It was as bad as I can ever remember. Then suddenly, just out of nowhere, somebody shouted "Yankees Suck", and I swear, everybody started laughing. Just like that, all the tension was gone. Funniest part for me is that I was with my brother in law who had no dog in the fight because he's a giants/yankees fan and as we walked out, he said "well that was uncalled for."
 

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This is obviously juvenile and unacceptable, but it used to be so, so much worse. The fans saved their "best" for a nationally televised game in 1997.

https://billypenn.com/2015/09/11/peeing-in-sinks-fights-in-the-stands-a-flare-gun-the-awful-antics-that-birthed-eagles-court-at-the-vet-and-why-it-went-away/

My dad would never take me to an Eagles game as a kid because this stuff happened every week. The other 3 major sports were never a problem.
 

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One of the scariest memories of my childhood was going to a game at old Foxboro Stadium.

I was so mortified that I told my father I never wanted to go back there again.
Damn, I have the same childhood memory. Early 80s Oilers game. Utterly terrified. Feel bad for my dad looking back, rest his soul…
 
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My family has had season tickets in the 300s since 2011 and I’ve seen verbal altercations between opposing fans basically every game I’ve been to, the only surprise is that things don’t turn physical more often. Hell I was at the game Sunday and saw a drunk Pats fan push a Dolphins fan at the top of a flight of stairs on the way out of the stadium, luckily the guy kept his balance. It’s an ugly combination of people drinking too much alcohol and taking sports too seriously and I suspect it’s only going to get worse at Gillette now that the Pats don’t win 75% of their home games.
 

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My family has had season tickets in the 300s since 2011 and I’ve seen verbal altercations between opposing fans basically every game I’ve been to, the only surprise is that things don’t turn physical more often. Hell I was at the game Sunday and saw a drunk Pats fan push a Dolphins fan at the top of a flight of stairs on the way out of the stadium, luckily the guy kept his balance. It’s an ugly combination of people drinking too much alcohol and taking sports too seriously and I suspect it’s only going to get worse at Gillette now that the Pats don’t win 75% of their home games.
Yup. And fans of teams who Pats used to beat regularly will enjoy pointing out the fact that the Pats are no longer good. Ridiculous that people can’t control their behavior.
 

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Gillette Stadium does not at all compare to the old Foxboro, which was truly frightening. Or even Fenway Park back in the 1970's, 80's, or early 90's in which fights in the stands were commonplace.
 

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I’d bet 40% of the tickets on any game at this point are Ticketmaster resold tickets by season ticket holders. They don’t care who they go to because they aren’t responsible for the persons actions.
I know a season ticket holder who lost two of their six tickets because the folks who had them were pains in the ass to others in the section. Security got involved, the actual owners were identified, were contacted by the Pats, asked to come to a meeting of the “ Ticket Inquisition” with loss of all tickets if they didn’t show up, and ended up losing two tickets but kept the other four as the outcome.
 

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Security at Sullivan/Foxboro Stadium was a joke. I got invited to a MNF game with a friend who had two tickets, and no taker for the 2nd. We agreed to meet at the game, and he'd give me the 2nd ticket. This was long enough ago that personal cell phones were quite rare. I had a two-way pager for work (because I was fancy as hell), but little did I know, my friend had left his one-way pager at home, so our one method of remote communication was not going to work.

In the drunken throng outside the gates, I was not able to find him. I stood in the mess of folks trying to get in at the north end of the stadium, while not actually standing in line, because I did not have a ticket. The line management was insanely bad, and this night game was minutes from starting, with a ton of people still outside. The staff apparently decided to just open a gate and let the crowd in without actually checking tickets, let alone screening for contraband. I pushed through, found a seat in the 300s, and watched the Pats lose a pretty bad game. There were tons of fights on the bleachers, as this was the big Curtis Martin revenge game, returning to Foxboro in 1998 after signing with the Jets and Parcells with the notorious "poison pill" contract. It wasn't a particularly fun game to watch, and the Pats lost going away, but I'll always remember it as the game I snuck into.
 

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I've been to probably close to 50 Pats games at Gillette, I've never seen a fight. There is the occasional obnoxious fan, and of course people who drink too much, but never a fight.

And in my experience security is pretty good about pulling super drunk people out and ejecting them.

That said, I'm not all that surprised that something senseless like this happened there. But I'd chalk it up to a random event that could happen in any NFL stadium rather than something specifically wrong with the atmosphere at Gillette.
 

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I've been to probably close to 50 Pats games at Gillette, I've never seen a fight. There is the occasional obnoxious fan, and of course people who drink too much, but never a fight.

And in my experience security is pretty good about pulling super drunk people out and ejecting them.

That said, I'm not all that surprised that something senseless like this happened there. But I'd chalk it up to a random event that could happen in any NFL stadium rather than something specifically wrong with the atmosphere at Gillette.
It may indeed be random however it is an environment that is ripe for things to go wrong. Football and the NFL in general celebrates violence, toxic masculinity and alcohol. I'm sure games are safer for fans than they used to be but it is a dangerous recipe and a tragic event like this is sadly not surprising.
 

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I know a season ticket holder who lost two of their six tickets because the folks who had them were pains in the ass to others in the section. Security got involved, the actual owners were identified, were contacted by the Pats, asked to come to a meeting of the “ Ticket Inquisition” with loss of all tickets if they didn’t show up, and ended up losing two tickets but kept the other four as the outcome.
That's how it works if you resell the tickets not through the Patriots Ticketmaster, which you can do now for a few seasons at least. If you sell them yourself = you're responsible, sell them through the Pats = you're not responsible to my knowledge.
 

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Seems like the NFL could crack down on a lot of this by having venues limit pre-game tailgating. Can’t imagine they will ever do that, although I’m somewhat surprised the league allows any activity like that to go in since they don’t really profit off of it.
 

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That's how it works if you resell the tickets not through the Patriots Ticketmaster, which you can do now for a few seasons at least. If you sell them yourself = you're responsible, sell them through the Pats = you're not responsible to my knowledge.
Correct.

We used to sell through StubHub for games that we couldn't go to and we always had in the back of our heads that some idiot would buy them who would cost us our tickets. No issue now that we use Ticketmaster and also prefer that the tickets we sell just credit to the following season's invoice for tickets.
 

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Seems like the NFL could crack down on a lot of this by having venues limit pre-game tailgating. Can’t imagine they will ever do that, although I’m somewhat surprised the league allows any activity like that to go in since they don’t really profit off of it.
It's not the main reason, but can you imagine 70,000 people arriving 30-60 minutes before kickoff and trying to get everyone parked and in the stadium in an orderly fashion?
 

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That's how it works if you resell the tickets not through the Patriots Ticketmaster, which you can do now for a few seasons at least. If you sell them yourself = you're responsible, sell them through the Pats = you're not responsible to my knowledge.
Correct.

We used to sell through StubHub for games that we couldn't go to and we always had in the back of our heads that some idiot would buy them who would cost us our tickets. No issue now that we use Ticketmaster and also prefer that the tickets we sell just credit to the following season's invoice for tickets.
It was my understanding that Stubhub was an official partner, and you were also not responsible if you sold your tickets through them. And I believe that as of this year, SeatGeek is the official partner.

FAKE EDIT: Confirmed here https://www.patriots.com/tickets/nfl-ticketing-network

Can ticket holders post tickets for resale on SeatGeek?
Yes. As League-licensed, authorized platforms, all NFL tickets listed on the NFL Ticket Exchange and SeatGeek are authenticated by Ticketmaster. Ticket holders may post their tickets for resale on either or both of these platforms simultaneously. Should any ticket(s) be purchased on one of these platforms, any other ticket posting will automatically be removed from the other platform.

Am I responsible for the actions of the buyers of my tickets on the NFL Ticket Network?
You will not be held responsible for the actions of the individual(s) who purchase your ticket(s), provided you use the NFL Ticket Network (NFL Ticket Exchange by Ticketmaster and SeatGeek) to sell your tickets.
 

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You never know about that stuff once you hit a certain age. A couple of years ago a 50 year old family friend had a cardiac-related issue while driving home from work and passed away very suddenly.
 

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It may indeed be random however it is an environment that is ripe for things to go wrong. Football and the NFL in general celebrates violence, toxic masculinity and alcohol. I'm sure games are safer for fans than they used to be but it is a dangerous recipe and a tragic event like this is sadly not surprising.
Especially for a Sunday night game.
 

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Still speculative, but What an utterly senseless loss if he was a ticking time bomb, and something this pointless and stupid triggered it. Maybe something else would’ve soon, but a fight at and/or about a fucking football game is absurd. As for the related discussion, I’ll add my voice to the chorus of those who’ve been to multiple games at both venues, and comparing Sullivan/Foxborough stadium to Gillette is indeed apples to oranges. The security and overall feeling at Gillette is miles better than it was at the old dump. But 70,000 people plus alcohol is an environment where absolute prevention of fights is impossible.
 
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This is obviously juvenile and unacceptable, but it used to be so, so much worse. The fans saved their "best" for a nationally televised game in 1997.

https://billypenn.com/2015/09/11/peeing-in-sinks-fights-in-the-stands-a-flare-gun-the-awful-antics-that-birthed-eagles-court-at-the-vet-and-why-it-went-away/

My dad would never take me to an Eagles game as a kid because this stuff happened every week. The other 3 major sports were never a problem.
Unless you were an 11 year old girl at a Phillies game.

Matthew Clemmens, Phillies Fan, "Vomit Man"; Admits He Threw Up on Cop, Kid at the Ol' Ballgame - CBS News
 

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Gillette Stadium does not at all compare to the old Foxboro, which was truly frightening. Or even Fenway Park back in the 1970's, 80's, or early 90's in which fights in the stands were commonplace.
I was at a Saturday Red Sox-Yankees game in the 90's and an usher said they'd thrown out 80 fans from the bleachers the night before. That seemed not that unusual for MFY games.
 

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It may indeed be random however it is an environment that is ripe for things to go wrong. Football and the NFL in general celebrates violence, toxic masculinity and alcohol. I'm sure games are safer for fans than they used to be but it is a dangerous recipe and a tragic event like this is sadly not surprising.
Yes I agree with this, I just don't think Gillette is any more dangerous than any other NFL stadium.
 

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Seems like the NFL could crack down on a lot of this by having venues limit pre-game tailgating. Can’t imagine they will ever do that, although I’m somewhat surprised the league allows any activity like that to go in since they don’t really profit off of it.
Not directly but I’m sure alcohol consumption outside the stadium leads to plenty of ill-advised and unneeded purchasing of alcohol inside the stadium. And the teams want crowds fired up and ready to go at kickoff.
 

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If they set aside a block of seats like they do in European soccer then you'd have a massive block of seats that were basically empty when the Chargers came to town. Also, there are seven Prem League clubs in London alone so the culture of travelling to away games is far more practical.
They change the size of the section depending on away supporter fan-base. I'm a Portland Timbers season ticket holder and there's basically three sections: Timbers Army where you cannot wear the other team colors, the supporter section where you can not be a timbers fan and they have police escorts into and out of the stadium, and the rest.

Drunk Timbers fans sit in the army. Drunk opponent fans sit in their sections. Everyone else really don't care enough to fight over sports. Problem is 95% solved.

Not sure of the logistics of doing this in the NFL though
 

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Not directly but I’m sure alcohol consumption outside the stadium leads to plenty of ill-advised and unneeded purchasing of alcohol inside the stadium. And the teams want crowds fired up and ready to go at kickoff.
That also makes sense, good point that I hadn’t considered.
 

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So if the fight caused the guy to have a heart attack, what's the liability for the other guy?
We still don't really know enough. But keep in mind in a criminal conviction requires proof beyond reasonable doubt. So, it's not a very strong case for manslaughter if credible MDs would be expected to say, "There's a very strong chance he was already experiencing heart failure before any touching happened, and the punch would have made no difference one way or another." Because that is, by definition, a reasonable doubt.

Civil - that's different.
 

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Bottom line is that there's just a segment of people who go to the games either looking for fights or at best being ready for them.
This basically sums it up perfectly.

I've had season tickets for the Patriots twice, it all starts with the tailgating and people getting annihilated pre game, then staggering up to the stadium.

I'll never understand the taunting that goes on between fans, been around it a number of times, it's moronic on a number of levels and to see grown men doing it makes it even worse.

Imagine going to a fucking football game and not coming home due to a needless, senseless thing.

Just ignore the nonsense and walk away.

Last Patriots game I went to was the AFCCG vs the Colts, a friend of mine got two tickets from his boss, we were with a group of about 20 people tailgating pre and post game, one of the guys worked with my friend and invited us to their tailgating. The traffic getting out of the parking lots was medieval, some guy in an SUV puts his window down and says to our group "You guys have any extra food, we're going to be here awhile"...my friends coworker, who was two sheets to the wind, says "No food, but here's a lemon" and he throws it at the SUV. The guy gets out, as do three other guys and a brawl erupts.............after it dies down, the guy gets out again and is looking around for his cell phone........my friends coworker who threw the lemon says "Oh, here it is" and stomps on it............the brawl starts all over again.

Next day I'm talking to my friend and he tells me his coworker who threw the lemon at the guys SUV and then stomped on his phone and touched off not one but two brawls took his wife to the dentist today, he waited outside for her and when she came out, she told him "I was talking to my dentist in the waiting area, he had a bruise on his face, I asked him what happened, he said he went to the game last night and some guy threw a lemon at his SUV and he and his friends got into two brawls, can you believe some asshole would do something like that?"

My friend told me his coworker just sat there stunned.

Probably a good idea he waited in the car.
 
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They change the size of the section depending on away supporter fan-base. I'm a Portland Timbers season ticket holder and there's basically three sections: Timbers Army where you cannot wear the other team colors, the supporter section where you can not be a timbers fan and they have police escorts into and out of the stadium, and the rest.

Drunk Timbers fans sit in the army. Drunk opponent fans sit in their sections. Everyone else really don't care enough to fight over sports. Problem is 95% solved.

Not sure of the logistics of doing this in the NFL though
It's embarrassing that this is needed.
 

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Sullivan Stadium was just awful. I remember as a kid going to the concession stand and the worker wouldn't give me my change back. I was too intimidated/scared to tell my dad what happened. The whole place was just an absolute dump.
 

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This basically sums it up perfectly.

I've had season tickets for the Patriots twice, it all starts with the tailgating and people getting annihilated pre game, then staggering up to the stadium.

I'll never understand the taunting that goes on between fans, been around it a number of times, it's moronic on a number of levels and to see grown men doing it makes it even worse.

Imagine going to a fucking football game and not coming home due to a needless, senseless thing.

Just ignore the nonsense and walk away.

Last Patriots game I went to was the AFCCG vs the Colts, a friend of mine got two tickets from his boss, we were with a group of about 20 people tailgating pre and post game, one of the guys worked with my friend and invited us to their tailgating. The traffic getting out of the parking lots was medieval, some guy in an SUV puts his window down and says to our group "You guys have any extra food, we're going to be here awhile"...my friends coworker, who was two sheets to the wind, says "No food, but here's a lemon" and he throws it at the SUV. The guy gets out, as do three other guys and a brawl erupts.............after it dies down, the guy gets out again and is looking around for his cell phone........my friends coworker who threw the lemon says "Oh, here it is" and stomps on it............the brawl starts all over again.

Next day I'm talking to my friend and he tells me his coworker who threw the lemon at the guys SUV and then stomped on his phone and touched off not one but two brawls took his wife to the dentist today, he waited outside for her and when she came out, she told him "I was talking to my dentist in the waiting area, he had a bruise on his face, I asked him what happened, he said he went to the game last night and some guy threw a lemon at his SUV and he and his friends got into two brawls, can you believe some asshole would do something like that?"

My friend told me his coworker just sat there stunned.

Probably a good idea he waited in the car.
That is a fantastic story, though.
 

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We still don't really know enough. But keep in mind in a criminal conviction requires proof beyond reasonable doubt. So, it's not a very strong case for manslaughter if credible MDs would be expected to say, "There's a very strong chance he was already experiencing heart failure before any touching happened, and the punch would have made no difference one way or another." Because that is, by definition, a reasonable doubt.

Civil - that's different.
This reminds me of one of those two people shoot someone simultaneously law school hypotheticals. Even if he had a bad heart unless he was already mid medical incident when he confronted the troll, seems like it’d probably fall under eggshell plaintiff.
 

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I vividly remember going to a game at Sullivan/Foxboro Stadium in the late '80s or early '90s where a Pats fan in my section delivered a perfect flying two-footed kick *up* a set of stairs to the chest of a Browns fan. It was like the Matrix. The Pats fan was immediately swallowed up by a helpful crowd, who hid him as he crawled away down an aisle.

Security came up to check on the Browns fan, looked around cursorily as if the kicker was going to volunteer himself up as tribute, then shrugged and escorted the Browns fan out of the section (and presumably the stadium).

Footnote: Both the Pats fan and the Browns fan were acting like gigantic assholes, which led to the physics-bending kick.
 

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That is a fantastic story, though.
I thought my friend was pulling my leg, but he wasn't.

I mean, what are the odds?

The comical part is his coworker was all torqued off at me after both fights died down "And You!!.......You're the biggest guy here, why didn't you jump in to help us, huh Schwarzenegger!!!"

His Son just looks at me and says "Don't feel bad, my Dad yells at me all the time."
 

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I thought my friend was pulling my leg, but he wasn't.

I mean, what are the odds?

The comical part is his coworker was all torqued off at me after both fights died down "And You!!.......You're the biggest guy here, why didn't you jump in to help us, huh Schwarzenegger!!!"

His Son just looks at me and says "Don't feel bad, my Dad yells at me all the time."
That is a great story.

As someone said upthread, I suspect occurrences like this are probably par for the NFL course. I am surprised, however, that there hasn't been more firearm-related football parking lot violence.
 

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Last Patriots game I went to was the AFCCG vs the Colts, a friend of mine got two tickets from his boss, we were with a group of about 20 people tailgating pre and post game, one of the guys worked with my friend and invited us to their tailgating. The traffic getting out of the parking lots was medieval, some guy in an SUV puts his window down and says to our group "You guys have any extra food, we're going to be here awhile"...my friends coworker, who was two sheets to the wind, says "No food, but here's a lemon" and he throws it at the SUV. The guy gets out, as do three other guys and a brawl erupts.............after it dies down, the guy gets out again and is looking around for his cell phone........my friends coworker who threw the lemon says "Oh, here it is" and stomps on it............the brawl starts all over again.
That guy must have hated lemons.
 

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Gillette Stadium does not at all compare to the old Foxboro, which was truly frightening. Or even Fenway Park back in the 1970's, 80's, or early 90's in which fights in the stands were commonplace.
I guess to me foxborough has always been held to that standard. I started going to the games regularly in 92 or so and it was wild. I had a similar memory to skrub of my dad taking me to one when I was a kid and it just being scary, but I had a lot of fun going to the games when I was about 20. In 95, when I graduated from college I bought season tickets and went to every game except for one between 95 and 2007. All of my years were in the 300s and I got to see the old stadium and the new stadium.

My wife hated going to the old stadium. There were so many drunks and fights and often whole place just felt like it was about to explode and not in a good way. There for a lot of fights up there in the 300s but after the world cup was held there was a lot more cameras so it was possible to punish people . Also, as the team got better they were able to use the season ticket zero tolerance policy to really rein in a lot of the bad behavior.

Highlights or low lights from those years included Seeing Santa get arrested for drinking nips during a late December game, a guy falling up the stairs and still managing to hold on to two beers and then standing up in a drunken stupor as the whole section cheered him on, multiple big fights that made you feel like you were at a professional wrestling match at the garden. But honestly the bleachers at Fenway were worse by then. When we moved to the new stadium things got better. When I'm back in Boston and go visit now it just seems very safe and corporate.

I guess I will dictate a couple stories here quick while I'm waiting for my appointment. The first was a night game in the '90s against the steelers. I was in the restroom in line during the game. It was pretty crowded back in those days, and these two Steelers fans, both big guys, came in and started screaming about the Patriots sucking and the Steelers being amazing and blah blah blah blah blah. The difference was they started to say all Pat's fans were pussies, etc. Right in the middle of a bathroom with about 50 Patriots fans in various states of intoxication waiting in line. Eventually some guy just blasted one of them in the face and the two of them got stomped by about 10 kids and that was that. The police came in and took away both of the Steelers fans and everyone went on with their night. The second was against the jags in the playoffs during parcells last year. We were exiting the old stadium but before we got out some guy handed my cousin a bottle of Jack to take a swig and he just kept going and eventually he handed it off to someone else. Mind you, this guy had a big bottle of Jack inside the stadium at the end of the game. Weird s*** like that happened all the time at those games. Anyway, we ended up going out on the wrong side of the visitor side of the stadium and there was nothing there to go north without a really long walk. Literally dozens upon dozens of Pat's fans were just sledding down this rock filled hill to the bottom and then walking around to save time. I remember seeing a guy going head first down there and I was like this is the craziest stuff I've ever seen. Eventually went down just on my butt and everyone was high-fiving and laughing and just carrying on like crazy. Just another night at foxboro. It is hard to believe that that could happen at any major sporting event.

I saved the worst for last. First game I had season tickets was family weekend at foxboro in the old stadium. They had a banner that said something like the kraft family and the Patriots welcome you to family weekend. I snapped a picture on a cheap disposable camera of a biker looking dude standing under the banner. One hand brace against the wall just projectile vomiting. It was such an awesome kind of snapshot of the whole foxboro experience at the time.

Anyway, I made it to 200 games or more there and never got in a fight. It got cleaner and safer and nicer every year under the krafts.

There are plenty of opposing team fans there that did quite well. We used a tailgate at the terminals and on random occasions would feed up a bunch of opposing fans that were just hanging out on their lonesome. I learned pretty quick up there that there's really no reason at all too go to an opposing team's game and talk a lot of s*** unless you really want to get in a fight. We used to go up to Buffalo and many times sitting in the end zone there people would throw batteries are quarters and stuff at us during the '90s and early 2000s. Their fans are pretty nice overall when tailgating and we never had a problem.
 

grsharky7

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I've been to tons of college and pro sporting events over the years, including many as a road team fan and I've had two incidents were I really believed it was going to go down.

The first was the Jeter catch game in 2004 in the old stadium. We were sitting in the right field upper deck and I went use the restroom and all of the troughs/urinals were filled up so I ducked into a stall and while I was in there I saw shadows and heard whispers of people right outside the door. When I opened it up there was a throng of Yankee fans crowding around me calling me every name in the book. Nobody shoved or hit me, but they did the crowd real close to you tactic so you have to almost push your way to the exit. I had my keys between my fingers so if anyone took a swipe at me I'd impale someone with the one punch I'd have gotten off before I was killed. Fortunately I made it out and back to my seats, but that was pretty harrowing because had they wanted to, they could've really messed me up.

The second one was in 2010 at the Patriots/Steeler game at Heinz Field. It was a Sunday night game so everyone was boozing all day before heading in. I went with my good buddy who's a Steeler fan and our seats were in the closed end upper deck seats. I was wearing a red throwback so I stood out pretty good in a sea of black jerseys. We were walking to our seats when a huge guy and his wife started getting in my face, yelling and screaming. I just kept walking and ignored it, but then because I had been drinking as well, I shot my mouth off about Big Ben's legal troubles with women and the guy really went off and grabbed me by the jersey. My friend is about 6'4 and came across and pushed up in the shoulder and told him to back off and the guy's wife grabbed him and they left. My buddy is rail thin but was layered up so he looked more intimidating than he really is. I shouldn't have shot my mouth off, I'm certainly not a fighter, but that guy was off his rocker.

I feel like if you keep your head down and act accordingly, 99% of the time people won't have issues at sporting events. I was at the Backyard Brawl this weekend and I didn't see one incident between WVU or Pitt fans. There was some smack talk but it was all good natured, the way it should be.