It's the point that stealing signals is legal in college football. You can use the ESPN feed of the sidelines to do it (Teams are provided video that goes beyond the telecast, of course). You just can't have someone physically go to the game and do it.
The problem I see with any analogy between the two incidents, in terms of conduct, is that the NFL sent a memo to all teams telling them to stop (doing it that way). Has this ever been discussed/an issue, let alone schools getting warned in writing, prior to this situation?
No, the Big Ten official release clarifies that he can't be in the stadium on game day. So for road games, he theoretically can be in the team hotel but not at the stadium.
Well considering the actions being
I don’t understand this viewpoint. Michigan isn’t the victim here. Those are the other teams in the Big Ten. If I recall correctly, Harbaugh was suspended to start the season after the NCAA said he committed Level I and II recruiting violations, as part of which they said he misled investigators (Harbaugh said he didn’t recall the incidents the NCAA was investigating). He now denies knowing a staffer violated NCAA rules by scouting in-person and recording the sidelines of future opponents. I’m not sure how much credibility Harbaugh’s word vis-à-vis his memory of important facts has in Big Ten and NCAA offices.
Has that actually been determined yet? The NCAA investigation is ongoing. The Big Ten suspension is based on… what exactly?
Information that was handed to the Big Ten by the NCAA. The NCAA has video evidence that signs were gathered on-site and sent to the Michigan program.
Who said it was a healthy and safety issue?
I don't know if it loses all credibility, but that argument was so weak that it should have been left out.
Also, this is an odd stance given that it's seemingly OK for other teams to share information re: signs and the NCAA has dragged their feet on some sort of radio setup between the sidelines and the players.
Yeah, seems pretty pointless. Other members of the Big Ten have been pressuring the conference to act immediately so they probably figured they needed to act.
I have read that one of the reasons for the "no in-person scouting" rule is the financial disparities among colleges. Could the radio systems involve the same consideration? (I don't care one way or the other about whether it's a stupid rationale).
Hey - please don’t cherry pick context out of a quite. The part you left out is relevant to my introduction you quoted. It’s fine when one bit of language has nothing to do with another, but that’s not the case here. Thanks.
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It is the opposing player who is threatened more. If I know for sure that on this play your H-back will have the ball in the b-gap I will be able to go at him full steam into said gap vs playing gap control.
Stealing signs is legal. It’s the manner in which signs are stolen that’s the scandal.
If Big Ten or the NCAA investigations had found worse information than has already been disclosed, it’d have leaked already.
Having lawyers bill you large sums when you have been caught red handed and have an offer on the table makes exactly zero sense. Your confusion comes from the thoroughly insane belief that they really did nothing wrong here.
I'd have to do some research to answer that honestly. The only instances I can think of for similar issues is Wakeyleaks. That resulted in the ACC fining Louisville and 1-2 other schools $25K.
