Everybody hurts sometimes: The latest injuries

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Don’t expect devers to play much during the LA series
Sounds like Devers will miss at least some of the Angels series by the way he was talking post-game tonight.
"I've been feeling it since Spring Training," Devers said. "But every time I was swinging, I was feeling it a little bit more and more. So for me, I think like two or three days [off] could be enough. I hope it doesn't keep bothering me after these two or three days but that's something I can't control. That's why I'm just trying to keep working to get stronger, to get my shoulder back in a good way.”
View: https://twitter.com/ianmbrowne/status/1778643790388961348?s=46
 

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Then put him on the IL. With the 10-day IL now available, there's no reason to "give a guy a few days" and shorten the roster in the process. Tonight was Exhibit A of what happens. It's April. Let him heal.
 

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Perhaps you should rend your garments so he doesn't go on the DL.
Obviously it's not ideal for him to be out, but let's wait and see if he's back in the line up over the next couple of days before we hit the panic button this early in the season.
You are right. I will wait before I hit the panic button. But what to do about my torn up clothes?
 

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This Herald reporter Xed that Grissom is expected to play for Worcester tonight.

View: https://twitter.com/gfstarr1/status/1778517919678279697


Vaughn Grissom is flying to Syracuse tonight to join the WooSox for his rehab assignment. He’ll play tomorrow.
Since it was posted on the 11th, I assume that means he will play tonight to start his rehab assignment.

Refsnyder played for the Woo Sox on Wednesday, starting his rehab assignment.
He went 0 for 3 with 3 Ks. He'll need more time obviously.

I haven't seen any update on Romy G yet, hopefully he will be back soon.
 

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Was there a corresponding move for the Dalbec call up? I assume someone is going on the IL but haven't seen anything.
 

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Was there a corresponding move for the Dalbec call up? I assume someone is going on the IL but haven't seen anything.
Campbell/Bernardino may go down. Criswell is also up on the taxi squad, and so is likely to get a start soon.

I suspect they may want to wait a day on any IL moves, to see if there's improvement.
 

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Doesn’t Dalbec have to be coming up for a position player going on the DL? Or was that rule changed?
There's no rule that states position player for position player exchanges when players are placed on the IL or called up. The only roster rule that matters is that no more than 13 pitchers can be rostered at a time. So moving a pitcher off the roster in exchange for adding a 14th position player is allowed.

That said, there's no chance they're going to short themselves a pitching slot at this point. It's more likely Devers or Romy are going on the IL in exchange for adding Dalbec, and some reliever will be optioned to add Criswell for tomorrow. But that move doesn't have to happen tonight and is likely going to be determined by how things go tonight (specifically which pitchers are used).
 

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Thanks- because Dalbec was optioned <10 days ago, though, he can only replace a player going on the DL, right? He can’t replace an optioned pitcher like Campbell.
 

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Doesn’t Dalbec have to be coming up for a position player going on the DL? Or was that rule changed?
You're probably thinking of the playoff rule.

Teams submit a 26-man roster prior to each round of the postseason. A club may request permission from the Commissioner to replace a player who is injured during a series, but that player is then ineligible for the rest of that round and the subsequent round. A pitcher may be replaced only by another pitcher, and a position player only by another position player.
 

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You're probably thinking of the playoff rule.

Teams submit a 26-man roster prior to each round of the postseason. A club may request permission from the Commissioner to replace a player who is injured during a series, but that player is then ineligible for the rest of that round and the subsequent round. A pitcher may be replaced only by another pitcher, and a position player only by another position player.
Yeah, I think that’s it. So i’m not completely insane.
 

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I'm not sure how accurate CBS Sports is, but their latest update says "Devers: expected back in lineup tomorrow 4-13". This would mean Romy is going on IL to make room for Dalbec?
 

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Thanks- because Dalbec was optioned <10 days ago, though, he can only replace a player going on the DL, right? He can’t replace an optioned pitcher like Campbell.
I thought this was a rule too. If you want to recall a player that soon, someone has to go on the IL.

Maybe not I guess.
 

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Thanks- because Dalbec was optioned <10 days ago, though, he can only replace a player going on the DL, right? He can’t replace an optioned pitcher like Campbell.
This is correct. Per MLB.com,
Upon being optioned to the Minor Leagues, a position player must remain there for a minimum of 10 days before he is eligible to be recalled to the Major League roster. For pitchers, the minimum is 15 days. If a player is serving as the 27th man for a doubleheader or replacing a player who has been placed on the injured list, there is no minimum number of days for which the optioned player must remain in the Minors.
 

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When does Devers NOT overswing? This was bound to happen.
I heard an interview (edit for wrong reference) with Cora where they said he was expecting fastballs, but sometimes the pitching machine doesn’t grab the threads right or the threads aren’t raised the right way.

Believe they were training high velocity fastball, and all of a sudden the ‘change up’ came out (not on purpose).

Apparently, the decision was made that Raffi will never hit against the pitching machine again. Just live.

Edit - I was wrong about reference it was actually an interview with Mego and Cora link is here.
 
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I missed the game yesterday because of an incredibly boring wait at jury duty so I have an incredulous question.

Someone collided with the brick shithouse that is Tyler Fucking O'Neill and it was the brick shithouse that got hurt?

The fuck is even going on?
 

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I missed the game yesterday because of an incredibly boring wait at jury duty so I have an incredulous question.

Someone collided with the brick shithouse that is Tyler Fucking O'Neill and it was the brick shithouse that got hurt?

The fuck is even going on?
It was because his face slammed into the back of Raffy's head and his sunglasses smashed and cut him, requiring 8 stitches and a concussion check.
 

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I missed the game yesterday because of an incredibly boring wait at jury duty so I have an incredulous question.

Someone collided with the brick shithouse that is Tyler Fucking O'Neill and it was the brick shithouse that got hurt?

The fuck is even going on?
You were lucky, Jury duty was probably far more exciting than yesterday's game. :D

And yeah Tyler ate the back of Raffy's head, he was not knocked out, but you could tell his bell got rung a bit...
 

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I missed the game yesterday because of an incredibly boring wait at jury duty so I have an incredulous question.

Someone collided with the brick shithouse that is Tyler Fucking O'Neill and it was the brick shithouse that got hurt?

The fuck is even going on?
If you have a strong stomach the link is a couple posts up. But yeah.
 

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IIRC, didn't he take out Ellsbury for a period of time?
Most of the season, actually. The collision was on April 11. Ellsbury returned for three games in May before going right back on the IL until August when he played 9 games and then was shut down again. 18 total games played that year. That was also a season in which Pedroia and Youkilis were lost for significant chunks of the season and Buchholz hurt himself running the bases, but I'm fairly certain Beltre had nothing to do with those injuries.
 

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Most of the season, actually. The collision was on April 11. Ellsbury returned for three games in May before going right back on the IL until August when he played 9 games and then was shut down again. 18 total games played that year. That was also a season in which Pedroia and Youkilis were lost for significant chunks of the season and Buchholz hurt himself running the bases, but I'm fairly certain Beltre had nothing to do with those injuries.
Thanks for that. I actually just researched it myself and came up with the attached article. It took a little bit to get to the Beltre-Ellsbury collision, but from that point on the story really got interesting. It was worse than I remembered.
https://www.espn.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/6845968/jacoby-ellsbury-gained-pain-lost-2010-season