I don't get it. What is ERPN supposed to mean?Jemele Hill + Connecticut
http://sites.bu.edu/playitforward/schedule/
She should found a network called ERPN.
I don't get it. What is ERPN supposed to mean?Jemele Hill + Connecticut
http://sites.bu.edu/playitforward/schedule/
She should found a network called ERPN.
Im assuming the "R" is for race since so much of what she talks about is race. Just a guess.I don't get it. What is ERPN supposed to mean?
Jade was SO bad on NESN. Never figured out how she got hired by ESPN but she was really good on SC there.Jade McCarthy
@JadeMcCarthy
Proud of my time at ESPN-Proud of the great ppl there & those like me w a future elsewhere-Proud to soon be mom of 3 w a bright career ahead
thats absolutely insane that he was let goAndy Katz was laid off per Seth Greenberg. That's a big loss in college hoops coverage.
It wasn't the shtick being genuine, it was that they had very talented, very funny people - Mayne, Patrick, etc. Now they have very pretty, very dull people testing catch phrases.I enjoyed SportsCenter back in the 90s when the shtick was genuine. Then it became a victim of its own success and the sausage factory started cranking out all these cheap facsimiles. It all became noticeably manufactured and lost its appeal.
That and ESPN shifted from talking about sports stories to trying to be the story with the worthless hot takez and bombastic debates. It took awhile but they finally ran it into the ground. I won't shed a tear for the demise of a worthless network but I do feel for the regular folks working behind the scenes who are affected.
Were they funny or was it just fresh? Up until then, sportscasting was nothing but scores and results.It wasn't the shtick being genuine, it was that they had very talented, very funny people - Mayne, Patrick, etc. Now they have very pretty, very dull people testing catch phrases.
They were legitimately funny. Keith Olberman and Dan Patrick were appointment TV. Craig Kilborn made it worthwhile to watch the 2 am SportsCenter -- there was a funny bit where he became obsessed with the Clippers Pooh Richardson. In the middle of one of the highlights he yelled out, "Pooh spelled backwards is Hoop!" It was hilarious.Were they funny or was it just fresh? Up until then, sportscasting was nothing but scores and results.
Yeah, I don't think there's any doubt they were legitimately funny and still are. Patrick and Eisen crack me up to this day whenever I watch them.They were legitimately funny. Keith Olberman and Dan Patrick were appointment TV. Craig Kilborn made it worthwhile to watch the 2 am SportsCenter -- there was a funny bit where he became obsessed with the Clippers Pooh Richardson. In the middle of one of the highlights he yelled out, "Pooh spelled backwards is Hoop!" It was hilarious.
I know this sounds dumb now, but Chris Berman was pretty good back in the day. Charlie Steiner was dry. Rich Eisen. Even Jack Edwards or John Saunders were good for a laugh now and then. But they were funny because they were knowledgable and they knew that their audience was knowledgable. Once it started pandering to the LCD, it became unfunny.
But the one anchor who was always unfunny was Linda Cohen. She was the worst.
For MLB or the NFL, this is easy. MLB Quick Pitch is perfect in this regard. For the NFL, the NFL Network Sunday night recap shows are also perfect. The NBA and NHL may have similar shows, but I don't subscribe to their networks.Does anyone think they could benefit from going backwards and having a SportsCenter that just shows highlights and news with little to no commentary? ESPNNews was the last gasp of this 5-10 years ago but now it's mostly reruns of their other shows. I'm not going anywhere near SportsCenter these days
I'm not going to seek out a Bucks-Nuggets game from January and watch a video package but I wish they could be presented to me in some way. I had no idea how good Giannis was until I watched him vs the Celtics last month and in the playoffs. I had seen out of context dunks or passes on Twitter but I didn't know how well rounded he was.
I feel like I had a better grasp on the rest of the leagues (outside of Boston/Northeast teams) when there was a highlight show that could give me quick 30-60 second recaps of all or most of the games from the night before. I'm not sure I would watch regularly but I wish something like that existed. Yes I know the highlights are all online but they're usually not that well done and you have to find them in the NBA.com or NHL.com recap stories. Even if they put a daily wrap up on the web that included all the major sports stories it could be helpful. They have the rights for the highlights anyway. Hire some young likable kids out of college and have them recap the videos.
This is bonkers. He's the best there is for Men's BB. I guess he can go to CBS or Fox?thats absolutely insane that he was let go
Back then they had legit competition because the CNN Sports show with Nick Charles had that "Play of the Day" clip that was extremely popular. I remember liking ESPN and having to argue in the dorm to get guys to watch SC because they didn't want to miss the play of the day. Yes, I'm aging myself, but ESPN was forced to be creative back then and the talent on air was evidence of that. They pounced when cable tiers were a growing industry and they fell asleep when the cycle switched.Yeah, I don't think there's any doubt they were legitimately funny and still are. Patrick and Eisen crack me up to this day whenever I watch them.
I remember watching SportsCenter way back when with Eisen as the anchor and they were showing a highlight of a double that bounced of the 'G' in a GAP sign on the outfield wall and Eisen makes this very dry crack about the ball hitting the wall's g spot that was just so perfectly delivered even now it makes me laugh.
I could easily see FS1 or CBS immediately hitting her up.Britt McHenry
@BrittMcHenry
Staying on the NFL Draft as my last assignment. Grateful for 3 years at ESPN. My colleagues became best friends & I'll cherish that the most
Why? Outside of nostalgia.“@richarddeitsch: Baseball Tonight has essentially been gutted. Only regular weekly spot: as a Sunday Night Baseball preview show.”
This is pathetic. Utterly pathetic.
Exactly. Those who want the Baseball Tonight experience can go to MLB Network and watch MLB Tonight and/or Quick Pitch. And they do it better, in general.Why? Outside of nostalgia.
They do, but for some of us it's not an option. For instance, I'd have to pay $100 or so more a month to add MLB Network to my options. I can't afford that.Exactly. Those who want the Baseball Tonight experience can go to MLB Network and watch MLB Tonight and/or Quick Pitch. And they do it better, in general.
I'd watch ESPN a lot more if they had more straightforward highlights. Other than live programming, all I'm looking for from a sports station is highlights. I don't give shit about talking heads and opinions.Then I got cable, and SportsCenter had highlights from all over the country, Michael Jordan's big dunk from a regular season game against the Clippers...clips from all the top 25 hoops games, maybe a score crawler that showed ALL the Division I scores from last night. And I could watch it while I ate breakfast before school.
Mind blown.
Does any of that sound mindblowing today? Is there any need at all for what ESPN used to provide?
That was the same thing with Sports Illustrated.Then I got cable, and SportsCenter had highlights from all over the country, Michael Jordan's big dunk from a regular season game against the Clippers...clips from all the top 25 hoops games, maybe a score crawler that showed ALL the Division I scores from last night. And I could watch it while I ate breakfast before school.
Maybe the towing employee she talked down to in summer 2015 can give her a reference for a job at the garage.Britt McHenry
@BrittMcHenry
Staying on the NFL Draft as my last assignment. Grateful for 3 years at ESPN. My colleagues became best friends & I'll cherish that the most
Really well put. That's exactly right. And it's just a different world now. I live on the West Coast, and my son watches every Red Sox game, and thinks nothing of it. I lived less than two hours from the Garden when I was a kid and I could only watch the Celtics' road games.But there was something kind of romantic (? probably the wrong word) about finding out about those games on the West Coast that happened long after everyone back East was asleep. It was like being in a club, I guess. And SportsCenter and Sports Illustrated provided you with the secret knock to get in that club.
I pay for the At Bat app and get MLBN in the app. I don't have the tier with it on Spectrum.They do, but for some of us it's not an option. For instance, I'd have to pay $100 or so more a month to add MLB Network to my options. I can't afford that.
Because football = ratingsMaybe, Ms. McHenry could apply for a job as a parking lot attendant. Regarding the rest of ESPN programming, they have 15 hrs of "NFL Live!" and "NFL insiders" which are basically the same show with different talking heads. Yet they cannot spare one hour for a baseball show besides the idiotic. Intentional Talk. Why not broadcast the Brian Kenny show? At least that one has intelligent talk and analysis.
Basically this is just making the numbers look better. There's not much else they can do though; with the way cord cutting is accelerating you have to figure that this is only the beginning.I admit I'm probably not the demographic ESPN covets, but then again, they just had to lay off 100 people because whatever it is they're doing hasn't been working.
That's partly true but I have to imagine a corporation as large as ESPN has a bunch of fat and they are using this as a means to trim a bunch of it as it looks to respond to cord cutting. Some degree of nuance there.Basically this is just making the numbers look better. There's not much else they can do though; with the way cord cutting is accelerating you have to figure that this is only the beginning.
Got my first HDTV back in '03. When the guys from Tweeter set it up and asked what to put on I said ESPN, Linda Cohn was the first person I saw in HD, scary then scary nowThey were legitimately funny. Keith Olberman and Dan Patrick were appointment TV. Craig Kilborn made it worthwhile to watch the 2 am SportsCenter -- there was a funny bit where he became obsessed with the Clippers Pooh Richardson. In the middle of one of the highlights he yelled out, "Pooh spelled backwards is Hoop!" It was hilarious.
I know this sounds dumb now, but Chris Berman was pretty good back in the day. Charlie Steiner was dry. Rich Eisen. Even Jack Edwards or John Saunders were good for a laugh now and then. But they were funny because they were knowledgable and they knew that their audience was knowledgable. Once it started pandering to the LCD, it became unfunny.
But the one anchor who was always unfunny was Linda Cohen. She was the worst.
Britt McHenry
@BrittMcHenry
Staying on the NFL Draft as my last assignment. Grateful for 3 years at ESPN. My colleagues became best friends & I'll cherish that the most.
Maybe, Ms. McHenry could apply for a job as a parking lot attendant...
I feel badly for virtually all the folks let go yesterday, save her. You might say karma's a Britt McHenry.Maybe the towing employee she talked down to in summer 2015 can give her a reference for a job at the garage.
Wasn't that garage notorious for screwing over their customers and also wasn't that taped exchange edited to exclude the parts that specifically set Britt off?Yay sanctimony!
I remember members in here mentioning the first part based on their own personal experience. I assume it was a TMZ find so I wouldn't be surprised on the second.Wasn't that garage notorious for screwing over their customers and also wasn't that taped exchange edited to exclude the parts that specifically set Britt off?
But, YES, sanctimony, many here have never had a bad moment, ever. They handle every situation with grace, honesty, and virtue. Human perfection.
Ditto on the well put. Given the landscape of sports today, it's hard to imagine (or even remember) how different things were when SC started.When I was a kid (around the same time you were, it sounds like) I didn't have cable in my room and my dad (who controlled the TV) wasn't much a sports fan. But I was a fanatic of all things sports, but especially baseball. So I wasn't able to watch SportsCenter every night, but I did have a subscription to Sports Illustrated. That means I could keep up with a team like the Padres or the Giants or the Dodgers and learn about why they're doing well.
If you're interested in this kind of thing, check out "These Guys Have All the Fun" by James Andrew Miller and Tom Shales*. It's an oral history that goes into great (some, like me, might say excruciating) detail about ESPN from beginning to early 2010s. It was an okay book, some of it was very dry and repetitive, but there was a lot of fun anecdotes and stories.Also, the one thing that really put ESPN on the map was to put the NCAA tournament on TV. To do that, they had to agree to put the rest of the NCAA sports on TV. I've done some searching and if ESPN paid NCAA anything for those games, it was paltry (they were a start-up without any money and in 1981, NBC paid the NCAA $9.9 million to broadcast the later rounds of the tournament). That's never going to happen again.
Thanks. If anyone is interested, there's a pretty lengthy excerpt on the Barnes and Noble site that includes the first years and the NCAA negotiations (but if you buy it, go through the SOSH Amazon link!)If you're interested in this kind of thing, check out "These Guys Have All the Fun" by James Andrew Miller and Tom Shales*. It's an oral history that goes into great (some, like me, might say excruciating) detail about ESPN from beginning to early 2010s. It was an okay book, some of it was very dry and repetitive, but there was a lot of fun anecdotes and stories.
* Shales and Miller also wrote the fantastic "Live From New York" oral history about Saturday Night Live. That's excellent.