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Yeah, this is pretty much my "binkie" draft.  
 
29  
DE KONY EALY
MISSOURI
 
62  
TE TROY NIKLAS
NOTRE DAME
 
93  
TE C.J. FIEDOROWICZ
IOWA
 
126  
QB A.J. MCCARRON
ALABAMA
 
182  
CB LAVELLE WESTBROOKS
GEORGIA SOUTHERN
 
190  
WR KEVIN NORWOOD
ALABAMA
 
221  
RB LORENZO TALIAFERRO
COASTAL CAROLINA
 

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No OL, mascho? I like both Niklas and Fiedorowicz, but I think both are redundant. Love Ealy at 29.
 
Here's a link to the draft predictions contest from last year:
http://sonsofsamhorn.net/topic/77237-2013-draft-predictions-contest/
 
I think it should be weighted the opposite of how it was, i.e., first-and-second- round hits should score the highest. It's kind of of dumb that I won by picking two UDFAs who were released before playing a down for the Pats.
 

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Yeah, XSF came off the board at 19 in that simulator.  Bitino went at 65, and was available at 63 when I took Niklas.  
 
The selection that intrigues me the most in this draft is that third round pick, where I took CJF.  Seems like that is when the talent really, really starts to thin out.  
 

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mascho said:
Yeah, XSF came off the board at 19 in that simulator.  Bitino went at 65, and was available at 63 when I took Niklas.  
 
The selection that intrigues me the most in this draft is that third round pick, where I took CJF.  Seems like that is when the talent really, really starts to thin out.  
I think it thins out after about the second round at the obvious positions of need - pass rush, OL, and TE - at least in terms of immediate starters.
I just ran a session of OTC, and the following players were available at 62:
DTs Easley, Quarles, DaQuan Jones, Sutton, Anthony Johnson, Ellis, Reid, McCullers
TEs Niklas, Fiedorowicz
G/C Brandon Thomas, Swanson, Richburg, Martin
 
But usually most of those guys are gone by round 3. But there are a lot of intriguing names at other positions - Paul Richardson and Martavis Bryant at WR, Pierre Desire, Ross Cockrell, and Phillip Gaines at CB, Carlos Hyde and Bishop Sankey at RB, A.J. McCarron, Aaron Murray, and Davis Fales at QB. It's not necessarily going to shake out like that in real life, of course, but I think it points to depth in the middle rounds, just not necessarily aligning with the Pats' short-term needs. That said, RB (where Ridley and Vereen are both FA after 2014), CB (where neither Revis nor Browner is a lock to be here more than 1 year), WR (where Amendola could be gone after the year), and QB (where Mallett's gone after the year and Brady's not getting younger) are positions of need in the longer-term.
 
Maybe this points to a trade-back strategy: if they can deal from 29 to 45 or so and pick up a 3rd, they'd be in a position to nab something like Bitonio (45), Easley (62), Fiedorowicz (85), and a QB / CB / RB / WR (or double-up at one of these) at 96 and 126. That wouldn't be too shabby.
 

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With Wilfork still with the team I didn't see a reason to draft a DT with Big Vince, Kelly, Vellano, and Jones. Richburg is one the top centers in the draft and Bitonio can swing down to guard if Cannon doesn't  play there. CJ is more talent infused in a position that lacks it with Gronk out. Grice is a great addition at RB as he can catch the ball out of the backfield, 50 catches last year, while he ran for 5.2 yards a carry. He did have a leg injury at the end of year last year which pushed him down the middle rounds of the draft. Great upside and is Vereen/Ridley insurance in the event one or both leave. Last two picks are injured lottery tickets for the O-Line. Patchan was recruited by and played for Urban Meyer at Florida before going to BC. He has had a number of injuries but made it through last year unscathed. Long was one of the best guards in the country before tearing his ACL last October.
 
 
29  
DE KONY EALY
MISSOURI
 
62  
C WESTON RICHBURG
COLORADO STATE
 
93  
OT JOEL BITONIO
NEVADA
 
126  
TE C.J. FIEDOROWICZ
IOWA
 
182  
RB MARION GRICE
ARIZONA STATE
 
190  
OT MATT PATCHAN
BOSTON COLLEGE
 
221  
G SPENCER LONG
NEBRASKA
 

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This is what I ended up with:
 
29 - Kony Ealy, DE Misssouri 
 
62 - Joel Bitonio, OL Nevada
 
93 - CJF, TE Iowa
 
126 - Daniel McCullers, DT Tennessee
 
182 - Dontae Johnson, DB NC State
 
190 - Wes Johnson, OL Vanderbilt
 
221 - Devon Kennard, OLB USC
 

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YOUR PICKS

R1
 

XAVIER SU’A-FILO
UCLA



R2
 

TE AUSTIN SEFERIAN-JENKINS
WASHINGTON



R3
 

CB STANLEY JEAN- BAPTISTE
NEBRASKA
 
So many hyphens ...
 

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#TeamHyphen
 
Surprised you were able to pull that one off.  In the one I did earlier XSF came off the board at 19, and SJB came off the board at 50.  Both to the Dolphins.  
 

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This would be ridiculous:
 

 
29 DE KONY EALY
MISSOURI



 
62 DAVID YANKEY
STANFORD



 

93 CB PHILLIP GAINES
RICE



 

130 QB A.J. MCCARRON
ALABAMA



 

140 TYLER LARSEN
UTAH STATE



 

198 DT JAY BROMLEY
SYRACUSE



 

206 TE COLT LYERLA
OREGON



 

244 RB LORENZO TALIAFERRO
COASTAL CAROLINA


 

 
 

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Seemed like slimmer pickings this week
 
 

29

DT RA’SHEDE HAGEMAN - BEAST



62

C TRAVIS SWANSON - Starter from Day 1
ARKANSAS



93

QB JIMMY GAROPPOLO - Brady Heir has arrived
EASTERN ILLINOIS



130

WR BRANDON COLEMAN  -Rutgers and a redzone target
RUTGERS



140

DT CARAUN REID
PRINCETON



198

DT JAY BROMLEY
SYRACUSE



206

G BRANDON LINDER - I like this guy
MIAMI



244

TE COLT LYERLA - I went back and forth on him and Marcel Jensen here.  Luckily Jensen went undrafted and was signed as a UDFA :)
OREGON
 

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29
DE KONY EALY
MISSOURI
(Hageman was also on the board, he went 48 to Baltimore.  Assuming Wilfork comes back I opted for Ealy.  XSF went 26 to Cleveland.)

62
TE AUSTIN SEFERIAN-JENKINS
WASHINGTON
(Yankey 59 to Indy, Bitonio 64 to Seattle)

93
C WESTON RICHBURG
COLORADO STATE
(Swanson 85 to Green Bay)

130
DE GEORGE UKO
USC
(CJF 113 to NYG)

140
DT CARAUN REID
PRINCETON

198
TE XAVIER GRIMBLE
USC

206
S SEAN PARKER
WASHINGTON

244
OT JUSTIN BRITT
MISSOURI
 

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Baka, $50 to the Jimmy Fund Garo never makes a pro bowl as a QB. I'm with Waldman et al on him. He's not a starting QB. He's got the Blain Gabbert pocket syndrome.
 

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Sorry SMU.....I cant make that bet.  JF is a worthy cause no doubt .....but my "Brady heir" comment was mostly tongue in cheek.
 

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The boards have shuffled a lot in the last week. How would this draft be?
 
29 - Hageman DE/DT
 
62 - Tuitt DE/DT - This has happened the past 3-4 times I've done a mock. Would the Pats draft both if they were available?
 
93 - Richburg C
 
130 - CJF TE
 
140 - McCarron QB
 
198 - Fortt LB
 
206 - Groy OL
 
244 - Taliaferro RB
 
No WR and no secondary. I don't think I'd be too upset if the draft fell this way. There's a lot of depth in this draft and I think it would be beneficial to trade back and get more picks. Not having a 5th round pick leaves a big gap and some decent names have been going in that span.
 

 
 

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I'm avoiding Hageman like the plague, thus my 4 round mock-draft:
 

R1  
DT DOMINIQUE EASLEY
FLORIDA
 
R2  
DE SCOTT CRICHTON
OREGON STATE
 
R3  
RB JEREMY HILL
LSU
 
R4  
TE ARTHUR LYNCH
GEORGIA

 
No OL, but am continuing the tradition of doubling down on a position in a single draft. Unfortunately, CJF was taken by the Bills at #73. Arthur Lynch would be fine as a backup in round 4.
 

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SeoulSoxFan said:
I'm avoiding Hageman like the plague, thus my 4 round mock-draft:
 

R1  
DT DOMINIQUE EASLEY
FLORIDA
 
R2  
DE SCOTT CRICHTON
OREGON STATE
 
R3  
RB JEREMY HILL
LSU
 
R4  
TE ARTHUR LYNCH
GEORGIA

 
No OL, but am continuing the tradition of doubling down on a position in a single draft. Unfortunately, CJF was taken by the Bills at #73. Arthur Lynch would be fine as a backup in round 4.
 
Which Big Board are you using? There have been a ton of different outcomes depending on which one I use. The Ourlads one is completely different from the Fanspeak one.
 

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Which Big Board are you using? There have been a ton of different outcomes depending on which one I use. The Ourlads one is completely different from the Fanspeak one.
 
I've been playing with the Fanspeak one for now (which is a bit nutty as one of the drafts had Derek Carr as the #1 pick. However, I think I'd be ecstatic if the actual draft played out this way:
 
  • #29 CB DARQUEZE DENNARD 
  • #62 DE STEPHON TUITT 
  • #93 DT WILL SUTTON
  • #130 RB LACHE SEASTRUNK
  • #140 TE ARTHUR LYNCH
  • #198 C GABE IKARD
  • #206 ILB DEDE LATTIMORE
  • #244 S ISAIAH LEWIS
Dennard would be insurance vs. Revis as well as Ryan moving to safety. Tuitt would be a nice value at the end of round 2 even if I'd prefer a few others. Double-up on Will Sutton, and pick up a super Woodhead replacement in my binky Seastrunk. 
 
Plus, getting Lynch at #140 would be fantastic, as well as developmental but talented depth guys like Ikard, lattimore, etc. 
 

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SeoulSoxFan said:
 
I've been playing with the Fanspeak one for now (which is a bit nutty as one of the drafts had Derek Carr as the #1 pick. However, I think I'd be ecstatic if the actual draft played out this way:
 
  • #29 CB DARQUEZE DENNARD 
  • #62 DE STEPHON TUITT 
  • #93 DT WILL SUTTON
  • #130 RB LACHE SEASTRUNK
  • #140 TE ARTHUR LYNCH
  • #198 C GABE IKARD
  • #206 ILB DEDE LATTIMORE
  • #244 S ISAIAH LEWIS
Dennard would be insurance vs. Revis as well as Ryan moving to safety. Tuitt would be a nice value at the end of round 2 even if I'd prefer a few others. Double-up on Will Sutton, and pick up a super Woodhead replacement in my binky Seastrunk. 
 
Love the Tuitt / Sutton combo - it's an intelligent double-dip where they're different enough that they can both have a role if they both pan out, but picking two provides some insurance. I'm OK with the Dennard first-rounder - he's good value there, and while CB is sewn up for 2014 it's more of a question mark for 2015 (as opposed to LB, for instance, where it's locked down for several seasons). FYI, Seastrunk's an interesting prospect with his speed / agility combo, but he had zero catches last year for Baylor - I'm not sold on him as a Woodhead / Vereen type.
 

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I did a Seahawks draft.  It was interesting.  Only 6 picks (1, 2, 4, 5, 5, 6), but I think I'd be pretty happy with this.  Realistically they will likely be moving back.  One rumored deal was #32 to Minnesota for #40 and the #96 they dealt for Harvin.
 

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XAVIER SU’A-FILO
UCLA



64
 

DE STEPHON TUITT
NOTRE DAME



132
 

WR KEVIN NORWOOD
ALABAMA



146
 

CB WALT AIKENS
LIBERTY



172
 

BROCK VEREEN
MINNESOTA



208
 

OT CHARLES LENO
BOISE STATE
 

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Super Nomario said:
Love the Tuitt / Sutton combo - it's an intelligent double-dip where they're different enough that they can both have a role if they both pan out, but picking two provides some insurance. I'm OK with the Dennard first-rounder - he's good value there, and while CB is sewn up for 2014 it's more of a question mark for 2015 (as opposed to LB, for instance, where it's locked down for several seasons). FYI, Seastrunk's an interesting prospect with his speed / agility combo, but he had zero catches last year for Baylor - I'm not sold on him as a Woodhead / Vereen type.
 
Do you think Tuitt and Hageman would offer the same versatility if the draft breaks that way? I know they're similar but I see Tuitt as more of a DE and Hageman as more of an inside presence, even though I would like to see both of them moved around in a similar fashion. I can picture a D line with Wilfork/Kelly/Siliga inside with Chandler and Hageman/Tuitt outside with the ability to move most of them to either DT or DE. I like SSF's picks too because I think Tuitt and Sutton would offer the same positional flexibility. I agree that either way they should double dip early on the D line.
 

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Eck'sSneakyCheese said:
 
Do you think Tuitt and Hageman would offer the same versatility if the draft breaks that way? I know they're similar but I see Tuitt as more of a DE and Hageman as more of an inside presence, even though I would like to see both of them moved around in a similar fashion. I can picture a D line with Wilfork/Kelly/Siliga inside with Chandler and Hageman/Tuitt outside with the ability to move most of them to either DT or DE. I like SSF's picks too because I think Tuitt and Sutton would offer the same positional flexibility. I agree that either way they should double dip early on the D line.
Tuitt and Hageman have similar bodies and project the same way to me - as 3-4 DE and 4-3 DT. But I guess you could use them both, either together or separately. What I don't like about double-dipping with them is that you have to use a first and second to do so. Thirds and later are 35% propositions at best, so while you almost guarantee you're getting DL help, it's hard to address anything else in a definite way. I'd rather use a first on something else and then double-dip at DL with some combination of the second / third / fourth, or use a first on DL and then use subsequent picks elsewhere.
 

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Just ran a draft on Fanspeak that got me Odell Beckham at #32.  Bridgewater went #1, Bitonio went #3, Clowney went #6, Pats took Jernigan with Hageman on the board (and going the next pick), Bortlers went #39, Eric Ebron went #49.  That one was just insane.
 

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Super Nomario said:
Tuitt and Hageman have similar bodies and project the same way to me - as 3-4 DE and 4-3 DT. But I guess you could use them both, either together or separately. What I don't like about double-dipping with them is that you have to use a first and second to do so. Thirds and later are 35% propositions at best, so while you almost guarantee you're getting DL help, it's hard to address anything else in a definite way. I'd rather use a first on something else and then double-dip at DL with some combination of the second / third / fourth, or use a first on DL and then use subsequent picks elsewhere.
This makes sense. It would be better to spread them apart and not go 1-2. There are other needs that need to be addressed.
 

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DanoooME said:
 
I did a Seahawks draft.  It was interesting.  Only 6 picks (1, 2, 4, 5, 5, 6), but I think I'd be pretty happy with this.  Realistically they will likely be moving back.  One rumored deal was #32 to Minnesota for #40 and the #96 they dealt for Harvin.
 

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XAVIER SU’A-FILO
UCLA



64
 

DE STEPHON TUITT
NOTRE DAME



132
 

WR KEVIN NORWOOD
ALABAMA



146
 

CB WALT AIKENS
LIBERTY



172
 

BROCK VEREEN
MINNESOTA



208
 

OT CHARLES LENO
BOISE STATE


 
It's eerie how these line up with the kinds of players the Pats might be interested in this year. Seattle and New England close to each other is going to be really interesting, because both teams address needs in advance, hide their intentions well, and don't really give a shit whether the Kipers of the world rate a guy in the third round or not. That means if the Pats love someone like Joel Bitonio in the first, they can't afford to trade back to 35 because Seattle might nab him at 32. It also means the Seahawks might have to leapfrog the Pats to make sure they get Tuitt in the second or Norwood in the third.