#DFG: Canceling the Noise
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I heard them briefly mention this on 98.5 on the way home but nothing else about it till now.Ed Hillel said:
What we don't know is how long they let the original batch warm up at halftime for the measurement. And that particular batch of evidence no longer exists.
This is going to be the highest rated Super Bowl ever. The Patriots have reached international fame/infamy for this. Networks and sponsors will line up for Patriots games next season. It will be an event when the defending champion Patriots come to town. Kraft will be rolling in the money. The value of this franchise will go up. They have reached Yankee levels of admiration and hatred across the country and world.
Hoya81 said:
Which in a way makes me think that the refs didn't see this as a big deal, and that the league kind of surprised them with wanting the balls, gauges and numbers as evidence.
But, it is Friday night and I've been drinking.
Methinks Ted Wells and the boys from the Acme Supersecret Investigation Company brought on board by the NFL are going to be doing a whole lot of facepalming over the next few weeks.PeaceSignMoose said:
One thing I take heart from in the NFL's memo and Kraft's follow up is that everybody is going to be under the microscope here. I would assume--ok, hope--that Colts personnel will be asked to surrender their cell phones, laptops, game underwear as well. I look forward to Mr. Irsay's letter pledging his full cooperation as well.E5 Yaz said:
As I've said above: I bet the Pats can prove via survellance the refs didn't have time to properly guage 36-48 balls. If you believe the refs are not capable of taking a shortcut and eyeballing or just squeezing the balls then you are in denial - Aaron Rogers stated as much.patinorange said:
That the refs didn't guage test the Pats balls (presented for inspection at about 12 PSI), combined with a temp related (indoor versus outdoor) drop of about 1 PSI is the simplest answer. No tampering, no ninja tricks, no secret needles under a towel. Just a lazy Ref (or overly busy Ref, or a Ref that assumes the league doesn't care because the QBs should be comfortable on a cold, rainy night).
Can *I* prove this? No. But I believe the league knows it, the vague wording that they "were tested before the game but guage tested twice at the half". They are crafting the words beautifully to imply something that isn't.
Assuming the Refs short cutted the testing, to me the question becomes: Is presenting the balls for inspection at 12 PSI acceptable to the league or evidence of messing with the integrity of the game. It's clear from Aaron Rogers comments (and the Chicago ball boy) the QBs at least make it clear to the equipment guys what their preferences are (direct commands or indirect hinting). It seems an acceptable part of the game for the equipment guys to increase the comfort level of their QB if posssible, including taking advantage of the human nature (laziness?) of Refs or the complicit ignorance of the league.
Let there be no doubt: if the league didn't know the QBs were doing this - they should have. It either affects the integrity of the game or it doesn't. Aaron Rogers statements were aired on national TV. If it matters - then Rogers should have been publicly disciplined and he wasn't. If the league didn't care about presenting the balls for inspection a little under or a little over - then they can't hang the Patriots for it now.
And that is where the league is now. It painted itself into a corner and doesn't know how to get out. That's why 4/5 days later it put out an ambigous statement. It's trying to buy time with the Wells appointment. But it is leaving the Pats/BB/Brady swinging in the wind - which sucks for them for doing nothing more than what everyone else was doing with the league complicit by turning a blind eye to it.
Hoya81 said:
Unbelievable. What comes after farce? Because that's where this is. NOW we know why the league/officials were distraught.
In a little under a month Panda's going to be accused of over-inflating himself.Harry Hooper said:
Clay and whatever shit he puts on his arm is on his own next season.drleather2001 said:
Seriously, it reads like a solidarity message for Kraft, and a reminder that team owners are Not Like Us and look at these things from an entirely different perspective.
One of the other odd obfuscations in the NFL statement is:
Was this some anonymous tip? A member of the Colts? Why can't they actually say what triggered the investigation?
When's Goodell's "State of the NFL" address? It's usually Super Bowl week. That could be high comedy.
I really hope after 30 questions about ball inflation, someone asks about players taking illegal drugs, beating women, deforming children and abusing animals in order to lighten the mood
I really hope after 30 questions about ball inflation, someone asks about players taking illegal drugs, beating women, deforming children and abusing animals in order to lighten the mood
Volin on AC360. BV is going to squeeze every second on the national face time as he can. He can do that of course, it's all in the game, but I do feel this urge to grab the largest paper clip and put'em on his snout.
SeoulSoxFan said:
Volin on AC360. BV is going to squeeze every second on the national face time as he can. He can do that of course, it's all in the game, but I do feel this urge to grab the largest paper clip and put'em on his snout.
Don't worry. No one gives a shit about CNN
Are you sure that's not Papelbon's older, fatter brother?SeoulSoxFan said:
Volin on AC360. BV is going to squeeze every second on the national face time as he can. He can do that of course, it's all in the game, but I do feel this urge to grab the largest paper clip and put'em on his snout.
Yikes. Dude's for a face for message boarding.SeoulSoxFan said:
Volin on AC360. BV is going to squeeze every second on the national face time as he can. He can do that of course, it's all in the game, but I do feel this urge to grab the largest paper clip and put'em on his snout.