Bravo.It's circumstantial, but I understand Derek Jeter hasn't always been forthcoming with info on viruses he's harboring.
The only fitting penalty for the Marlins is to vacate the MFY WS championships won by their ownership.
Bravo.It's circumstantial, but I understand Derek Jeter hasn't always been forthcoming with info on viruses he's harboring.
ZING!It's circumstantial, but I understand Derek Jeter hasn't always been forthcoming with info on viruses he's harboring.
If this were the case you would already be in they're system.SCAB MARLINS?
I can play 2B, maybe hit 2nd if we're going to go small ball route.
Well, this IS the season where a sub .500 team has the best chance to win it all.If the Red Sox are the last team that isn't shut down for an outbreak, does that mean they win the World Series by default?
The METS took buses to bostonThe biggest issue going forward will be travel. They all have to get on the same plane. That gives bubble sports (and golf) a huge advantage.
The only thing the MLB owners appeared to care about was getting the most concessions it could from the players, so the owners could make as much money as possible, no matter what. It doesn't look like MLB did much in the way of planning around Covid and installing full protocols designed to keep everyone healthy.The fact that MLB didn't have a protocol in place to postpone a game if multiple players test positive before said game blows my mind.
Manfred makes me yearn for Selig. He's gotta go.
Or Wednesday or Thursday, presumably. Unclear if that means the games will be postponed/canceled in their entirety (in which case don't see how they could make all those up) or whether they'll just play the games in Camden Yards (of course if I were an Orioles employee I wouldn't want the Marlins anywhere near my stadium at the moment).Andy Slater is a radio personality in Miami.
SLATER SCOOP: The Baltimore Orioles now plan to leave Miami tonight, I've learned.
So, that means no game at Marlins Park tomorrow.
View: https://twitter.com/AndySlater/status/1287779462403235841
And, that would be better for them in this situation ... how?The METS took buses to boston
NASCAR has also been running effectively with only a few little blips, and that has been going on for months. Yes, the drivers are separated while driving but the crews are all in close quarters with one another and we are talking about hundreds and hundreds of people coming in from all over the country each week to work. They have also been super strict on masks.Apologies if it seemed like I was trying to compare the two sports. I definitely was not, and agree with all the quoted posts here and think MLB should SHUT IT DOWN! /Taffer
Just was saying that it is being done without a bubble, but also requires much different circumstances. Namely that golfers can withdraw from the competition unlike teams can and they're not congregating indoors.
Florida Men.Per the Matt Breen, Phillies beat writer for the Inquirer.
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The Marlins learned before Sunday’s game that three players had tested positive for COVID-19. So they held a player’s meeting to decide if they should play against the Phillies. Can’t find that protocol in MLB’s 101-page manual.
Haven't they had fans (limited amounts) as well?NASCAR has also been running effectively with only a few little blips, and that has been going on for months. Yes, the drivers are separated while driving but the crews are all in close quarters with one another and we are talking about hundreds and hundreds of people coming in from all over the country each week to work. They have also been super strict on masks.
This was going to happen anyway. Yeah, the Marlins were first; but this was always going to happenSo as usual, Florida fucks it for the rest of us.
They have, including at the All-Star Race having 30,000 fans at Bristol Motor Speedway (the speedway has a capacity of 160,000) although I'm not sure how safe that really is, as it would be hard to trace all of those fans and see how many of them got Covid-19 in comparison to the rest of the general population.Haven't they had fans (limited amounts) as well?
Understandable, but I’m guessing many of us on this board live in the Northeast, where the numbers are now a lot better. As opposed to Florida, who did a big shrug to all of it.This was going to happen anyway. Yeah, the Marlins were first; but this was always going to happen
This is is someone in beastmode right here.It's circumstantial, but I understand Derek Jeter hasn't always been forthcoming with info on viruses he's harboring.
That is what I thought - and I have not heard anything related to any positive tests from these events, which is why I always wondered why for example, the Yankees could not allow say 15000 fans in their 60000 seat stadium. Sell tickets via lottery. Scan fans upon entrance. Mandatory masks. It is outdoors, just like the raceThey have, including at the All-Star Race having 30,000 fans at Bristol Motor Speedway (the speedway has a capacity of 160,000) although I'm not sure how safe that really is, as it would be hard to trace all of those fans and see how many of them got Covid-19 in comparison to the rest of the general population.
Marlins ain't been in Florida in a week. Seems this *might* have happened on the road.Understandable, but I’m guessing many of us on this board live in the Northeast, where the numbers are now a lot better. As opposed to Florida, who did a big shrug to all of it.
Not saying it was, is probably worseAnd, that would be better for them in this situation ... how?
Or they took it with them *from* Florida.Marlins ain't been in Florida in a week. Seems this *might* have happened on the road.
If Power 5 college football, especially SEC, shuts down, it will be the seismic event that maybe, maybe, is the wake up call we need.The silver lining here is that this illustrates how far we are from beating this thing. Maybe a wake-up call and maybe it will fuel better decisions for things like school re-openings.
And honestly, it should be one of each. No reason they cant play aloneGolf is two players and two caddies and its not necessary to use a locker room. It can't be compared to MLB.
That clip is a great example of MLB continuing to have its head in the sand. "I don't know how we make [the missed games] up or when" and "hopefully this is the worst outbreak we have" aren't exactly reassuring statements, and then he says that maybe "getting [the outbreak] out of the way early" might be beneficial, despite the complete illogic of that statement.
This is your second post in this thread splashing cold water on the notion that the team that calls the world's biggest COVID hot spot home may not have gotten the virus in the world's COVID epicenter. Any particular reason why?Marlins ain't been in Florida in a week. Seems this *might* have happened on the road.
Pace of play is the limiting factor there. There isn't enough time to send guys off one at a time.And honestly, it should be one of each. No reason they cant play alone
Either false positives, as testing is not 100% reliable, OR, players who are breaking whatever quarantine measures that are supposed to be in place is my guess.If players known to be negative, assumed to be practicing preventative measures, are now turning up positive... how are they getting infected? Hard to believe this is a tale about the perils of air travel, as most teams started moving around less than a week ago.
report says the initial guys got the virus when they were in atlanta before the regular season startedThis is your second post in this thread splashing cold water on the notion that the team that calls the world's biggest COVID hot spot home may not have gotten the virus in the world's COVID epicenter. Any particular reason why?
It isn't just about the buildings themselves though. You have to get people into the stadiums, through the entrance gates and concourses to their seats, then out again. Bristol is fairly isolated and surrounded by parking lots. Everyone going there is likely driving themselves. Yankee Stadium is in the middle of the city, surrounded mostly by other buildings. Most of the crowd there is arriving via public transit, in itself a danger zone.That is what I thought - and I have not heard anything related to any positive tests from these events, which is why I always wondered why for example, the Yankees could not allow say 15000 fans in their 60000 seat stadium. Sell tickets via lottery. Scan fans upon entrance. Mandatory masks. It is outdoors, just like the race
Likely Atlanta, typically takes a couple days to get enough virus to test positive.Marlins ain't been in Florida in a week. Seems this *might* have happened on the road.
The LPGA is playing without caddies when they return.And honestly, it should be one of each. No reason they cant play alone
Can you provide any amount of details to your post such as a link or even a name?report says the initial guys got the virus when they were in atlanta before the regular season started
“Assumed” is doing a lot of work here. Hard to not point out that a lot players come from the states currently getting hit the hardest because “personal freedoms” and such.If players known to be negative, assumed to be practicing preventative measures, are now turning up positive... how are they getting infected? Hard to believe this is a tale about the perils of air travel, as most teams started moving around less than a week ago.
True, and as a non-race fan I am not familiar with Bristol at all. But, with Yankee stadium, public transit is not really an issue - the trains are running anyhow already. I had not thought about the arrival times aspect though - that is a good point.It isn't just about the buildings themselves though. You have to get people into the stadiums, through the entrance gates and concourses to their seats, then out again. Bristol is fairly isolated and surrounded by parking lots. Everyone going there is likely driving themselves. Yankee Stadium is in the middle of the city, surrounded mostly by other buildings. Most of the crowd there is arriving via public transit, in itself a danger zone.
Yankee Stadium's footprint is a third of Bristol Speedway's, so even at 25% capacity, you've got fewer entry/exit points and thus smaller choke points where distancing is much more challenging. For a race day (Sunday, presumably), trhey can open the gates relatively early (7-8am) and spread entry into the stadium out over a number of hours before the race starts. That's not typically how baseball games work. People mainly arrive 60-90 minutes before the game at the earliest, especially if we're talking weekday evenings. The logistics themselves are the biggest obstacle to spectator attendance at any big league stadium.
And didn't the Braves have to shut a couple players down with COVID symptoms right after the Marlins were in town?report says the initial guys got the virus when they were in atlanta before the regular season started
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29542203/marlins-starter-jose-urena-late-scratch-philliesCan you provide any amount of details to your post such as a link or even a name?
The trains may be running anyhow, but is it wise to add 5-10,000 more riders on a given night if it can be helped?True, and as a non-race fan I am not familiar with Bristol at all. But, with Yankee stadium, public transit is not really an issue - the trains are running anyhow already. I had not thought about the arrival times aspect though - that is a good point.
Doesn't necessarily have to be either of those. All it takes is one clubhouse attendant, bus driver, etc. who is positive to potentially spread it to an entire team.Either false positives, as testing is not 100% reliable, OR, players who are breaking whatever quarantine measures that are supposed to be in place is my guess.
The NHL has threatened heavy fines and draft pick forfeiture for teams whose players/staff inside the bubble are caught not complying with the bubble rules. Can't speak for the NBA, though I guess there was a guy on the Clippers who went to a strip club while on an excused out of the bubble excursion so I guess we'll see what happens there and how serious the NBA is? Silver seems pretty no-nonsense to me, but I don't follow the NBA closely enough to know for sure.Do the NBA or NHL plans contain anything like "and if an infection results from what the league determines is protocal-breaking behavior, the team will forfeit all it s games" or somesuch?
It is just odd to me if that is the case. I work in nursing homes, and at the height of Covid here we had dozens and dozens of patients who were symptomatically positive, and had staff positive as well - but yet, it did not spread like wildfire because someone positive entered the same building. I mean, if these guys are wearing masks at all, it does not seem like it should spread so easily, when it did not spread so easily with our compromised patients, and certainly did not spread among healthy staff members. I would think athletes (who are healthier than most) would be better off. Which tells me, that most must not be wearing masks OR are not doing proper hand washing.Doesn't necessarily have to be either of those. All it takes is one clubhouse attendant, bus driver, etc. who is positive to potentially spread it to an entire team.
I read up thread that some teams or team did the whole jumping all over each other after a walk off homer? Is this true?It is just odd to me if that is the case. I work in nursing homes, and at the height of Covid here we had dozens and dozens of patients who were symptomatically positive, and had staff positive as well - but yet, it did not spread like wildfire because someone positive entered the same building. I mean, if these guys are wearing masks at all, it does not seem like it should spread so easily, when it did not spread so easily with our compromised patients, and certainly did not spread among healthy staff members. I would think athletes (who are healthier than most) would be better off. Which tells me, that most must not be wearing masks OR are not doing proper hand washing.
Yes, I saw this, I think it was the A's grand slam in the 10th.I read up thread that some teams or team did the whole jumping all over each other after a walk off homer? Is this true?
I expect they do have plans.The NHL has threatened heavy fines and draft pick forfeiture for teams whose players/staff inside the bubble are caught not complying with the bubble rules. Can't speak for the NBA, though I guess there was a guy on the Clippers who went to a strip club while on an excused out of the bubble excursion so I guess we'll see what happens there and how serious the NBA is? Silver seems pretty no-nonsense to me, but I don't follow the NBA closely enough to know for sure.
Also, as far as I know, none of the leagues have detailed their outbreak plans. The chorus among them all has been that 1 positive will not shut the thing down. Beyond that, nobody has said what that threshold is (which is understandable) or what happens when an outbreak hits.