Christian Arroyo

[Captaincoop]

Criticism of Arroyo for trying to do something he either wasn't physically capable of or something that was unwise/unnecessary in the situation? Sure, I get that.

Criticism of using Arroyo at 1B at all? That's what's for the chunderheads. Swihart, for example, got hurt (over?)aggressively pursing a flyball into foul territory. It was a fluke occurrence. Ellsbury got trucked by Adrian Beltre. Again, a fluke occurrence. But that didn't stop the chunderheads from ripping Sox management for playing those guys "out of position" in LF and causing their fluke injuries.

While he hasn't gotten hurt doing so, I've seen Dalbec making similar poor decisions that a more experienced 1B would know not to make (like backing off a short throw and catching it on a high hop instead of stretching to pick it on the short hop). Just as he'll figure it out with experience, so can Arroyo though unfortunately Christian might be learning the hard way.

What happened to Arroyo was not a "fluke occurence". He was trying to make a play at 1B that is routine at first base, but that he never has to make anywhere else on a baseball field, and he fucked it up and hurt himself doing it. That's like the exact opposite of a fluke.

 

[Humphrey]

What happened to Arroyo was not a "fluke occurence". He was trying to make a play at 1B that is routine at first base, but that he never has to make anywhere else on a baseball field, and he fucked it up and hurt himself doing it. That's like the exact opposite of a fluke.

Correct. The odds on an experienced guy injuring himself on exactly the same play are much, much lower. There wasn't a play to be made nor a throwing error to be saved. Catch the damn ball and nothing else.

 

[richgedman'sghost]

What happened to Arroyo was not a "fluke occurence". He was trying to make a play at 1B that is routine at first base, but that he never has to make anywhere else on a baseball field, and he fucked it up and hurt himself doing it. That's like the exact opposite of a fluke.

As I said before, middle infielders routinely stretch for throws on force plays at second base. It is probably a play that Arroyo has probably completed hundred of times in his career.
I disagree that the Arroyo situation is in any way equivalent to Swithart play. Swithart was doing something completely unnatural to him and his previous position of catcher. Arroyo was and is comfortable with stretching for throws.

 

[Harry Hooper]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDee57DS43c

 

[Captaincoop]

As I said before, middle infielders routinely stretch for throws on force plays at second base. It is probably a play that Arroyo has probably completed hundred of times in his career.
I disagree that the Arroyo situation is in any way equivalent to Swithart play. Swithart was doing something completely unnatural to him and his previous position of catcher. Arroyo was and is comfortable with stretching for throws.

I don't know what baseball you're watching if you're seeing second basemen routinely do splits to receive throws.