CFB 2024 Offseason: Spring Games, Transfers, Lawsuits, etc.

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Between the coaching carousel and realignment threads, this might be overkill, but I figure it's worth a shot.

2024 Playoff Format

12 team playoffs next year. Currently, the format is the top six conference champions plus six wild cards, with the four byes being reserved for conference champions. With the Pac 12 implosion, this is almost certainly going to be changed to 5+7, as well as a requirement that a league must have at least eight members to be eligible for one of the 5 spots.

Here's the schedule:
  • First Round (On-Campus)
    • Friday, December 20, 2024: One Game (evening)
    • Saturday, December 21, 2024: Three Games (early afternoon, late afternoon and evening)
  • Quarterfinals
    • Tuesday, December 31, 2024: Fiesta Bowl (evening)
    • Wednesday, January 1, 2025: Peach Bowl (early afternoon), Rose Bowl Game (late afternoon) and Sugar Bowl (evening)
  • Semifinals
    • Thursday, January 9, 2025: Orange Bowl (evening)
    • Friday, January 10, 2025: Cotton Bowl (evening)
  • CFP National Championship
    • Monday, January 20, 2025: Atlanta
FBS Realignment for the 2024 season
  • SEC: Texas, Oklahoma joining
  • Big 10: USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington joining
  • Big 12: Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Utah joining
  • ACC: Cal, Stanford, SMU joining
  • AAC: Army joining
  • CUSA: Kennesaw State joining
In addition, the remaining Pac 12 schools (Oregon State, Washington State) have agreed to a scheduling agreement with the Mountain West -- both teams will play six MWC opponents. They will not be eligible for the MWC championship game. The Mountain West will drop to seven conference games to accommodate.

Television changes

The SEC will air exclusively on ESPN networks for the next ten years.

The CFP's contract with ESPN expires after 2025 and is negotiating its next contract. ESPN is working toward extending its exclusive deal and FOX is reportedly working on a "massive" bid.

FBS Coaching Carousel

As of now, the following schools have hired a new coach:
  • SEC
    • MISSISSIPPI STATE Jeff Lebby
    • TEXAS A&M Mike Elko
  • BIG 10
    • INDIANA Curt Cignetti
    • MICHIGAN STATE Jonathan Smith
    • NORTHWESTERN David Braun (promoted from interim)
  • ACC
    • DUKE Manny Diaz
    • SYRACUSE Fran Brown
  • Big 12
    • HOUSTON Willie Fritz
  • Pac 12
    • OREGON STATE Trent Bray
  • AAC
    • TULANE Jon Sumrall
  • MWC
    • BOISE STATE: Spencer Danielson
    • NEVADA Jeff Choate
    • NEW MEXICO Bronco Mendenhall
    • SAN DIEGO STATE Sean Lewis
    • WYOMING Jay Sawvel
  • Sun Belt
    • JAMES MADISON Bob Chesney
    • LOUISIANA-MONROE Bryant Vincent
    • TROY Gerad Parker
  • CUSA
    • MIDDLE TENNESSEE STATE Derek Mason
    • NEW MEXICO STATE Tony Sanchez
    • UTEP Scotty Walden
Recruiting/Transfer Portal

This is not my wheelhouse, but here's 247's top 10, considering both incoming freshmen and transfers:

1 Georgia
2 Alabama
3 Texas
4 Ohio State
5 Oregon
6 Miami
7 Florida State
8 Auburn
9 Notre Dame
10 LSU

Top rankings for the other conferences:
  • Big 12: Coloardo (21st)
  • AAC: USF (64th)
  • Pac 12: Oregon State (67th)
  • MAC: Toledo (74th)
  • MWC: Boise State (75th)
  • Sun Belt: Southern Miss (79th)
  • CUSA: Western Kentucky (96th)
Video Game?

It might be coming? Here's the Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A Start thread:

https://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?threads/ea-sports-college-football-returns.32624/

Week 0

Florida State and Georgia Tech will play the kickoff game in Dublin on August 24. Can't come soon enough.
 

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Semi-Serious question... how much NIL money do you think he's getting? I get that free room & board for a year can be very appealing (esp Miami) but at some point you gotta move on to the next phase of his life?
 

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Semi-Serious question... how much NIL money do you think he's getting? I get that free room & board for a year can be very appealing (esp Miami) but at some point you gotta move on to the next phase of his life?
He had eight catches for 62 yards last season. I'd be surprised if it's anything significant.
 

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On Thursday, the United States Justice Department announced it joined an antitrust lawsuit against the NCCA that was originally filed by the states of Ohio, Colorado, Illinois, New York, North Carolina, Tennessee and West Virginia.

The states of Minnesota, Mississippi and Virginia also joined the lawsuit on Thursday.

At the crux of the filing are NCAA rules limiting a player's eligibility if they choose to transfer to a different school more than once. A collegiate athlete can transfer once without penalty, but any transfer after that requires a player to sit out for one season at their new school.
via Bleacher Report
 

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One thing I couldn't get over was that the article claimed the "free Covid year" was irrelevant in this case; as he was injured in 2020 anyway.
 

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Semi-Serious question... how much NIL money do you think he's getting? I get that free room & board for a year can be very appealing (esp Miami) but at some point you gotta move on to the next phase of his life?
If companies like AARP aren't viewing this as a fun joke opportunity they're seriously missing out. In the congressional hearings this week UCLA's 3rd string QB said he had 42 deals across 10 states so I'd assume that the 9th year backup TE is getting some based on the unique nature of his situation.
 

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Dying without football on Saturdays. Here are the upcoming college All-Star games:

Thursday, February 1
8:00 East-West Shrine Bowl in Frisco, NFLN

Saturday, February 3
1:00 Senior Bowl in Mobile, NFLN
 

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Tennessee is in hot water with the NCAA for allegedly offering NIL money to a recruit before signing. Now the State AGs of Tennessee and Virginia are suing the NCAA for that line of enforcement.

View: https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1752703148710617176


In their legal filing against the NCAA, the Tennessee & Virginia AGs want the Court to bar the NCAA from enforcing its “NIL-recruiting ban” and bar it from preventing any recruits or transfers from entering NIL deals prior to enrollment.
https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1752703148710617176/photo/1
 

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Rules survey for next year is out. New rules will very likely be among the following:

- Allow the permissive use of coach-to-player communications via voice communications (e.g., helmet to coach’s headset)
- Allow the permissive use of use of wearable technologies (e.g., wristband with messages) to facilitate coach-to-player communications
- Add a “Two Minute Stop” with two minutes remaining in the 2nd and 4th quarter? This timeout would create a solid window to initiate the “under 2 minutes” timing rules. Additionally, media partners would be required to hold back and use a scheduled media timeout during this break.
- To further limit feigning of injuries and teams receiving an unmerited timeout, consider additional options to curtail this dishonest practice.
- Consider additional options to help clean up situations in which players do not wear their uniform properly
- With the increasing number of instant replay stoppages, add a minimal Coach Challenge Model, exempting out scoring plays, turnovers, targeting, line to gain, the last two minutes of each half, and overtime periods
- Remove the exemption for a ball carrier, including a potential passer who is inside the tackle box, to the Horse-Collar tackle rule
- Ban teammates from pushing the ball carrier in order to gain additional yardage.
- Add a point of emphasis to clean up line of scrimmage infractions where either team simulates action at the snap or is not in proper alignment
 
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Rules survey for next year is out. New rules will very likely be among the following:

- Ban teammates are allowed pushing the ball carrier in order to gain additional yardage…
This one stands out a bit to me. A lot of extra yards, especially on short-yardage and goal-line situations, are gained by moving the pile. As long as it’s evenly enforced I guess it’s ok, but I always enjoy watching that last bit of struggle to gain a first down or a score.
 

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This one stands out a bit to me. A lot of extra yards, especially on short-yardage and goal-line situations, are gained by moving the pile. As long as it’s evenly enforced I guess it’s ok, but I always enjoy watching that last bit of struggle to gain a first down or a score.
It won't pass IMO. Too hard to officiate, for one. Are they pushing the runner, or are they pushing the pile?
 

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It won't pass IMO. Too hard to officiate, for one. Are they pushing the runner, or are they pushing the pile?
How about if they're trying to block versus just trying to push? Especially when the pile is away from the line of scrimmage.
 

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The College Football Playoff (CFP) Board of Managers today unanimously revised the qualifying criteria for the 12-team event to now include the five highest-ranked conference champions, plus the next seven highest-ranked teams as determined by the CFP Selection Committee.
Under the 12-team playoff format that begins this fall, the four highest-ranked conference champions will be seeded one through four and each will receive a first-round bye, while teams seeded five through 12 will play each other in the first round on the home field of the higher-ranked team. (The team ranked #5 will host #12; team #6 will meet team #11; team #7 will play team #10; and team #8 will meet #9.) The quarterfinals and semifinals will be played in the New Year's Six bowl games, the national championship game will continue to be at a neutral site. No conference will qualify automatically and there will be no limit on the number of participants from a conference.
https://collegefootballplayoff.com/news/2024/2/20/5-7-format-confirmed.aspx
 

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Hard to tell if the AAC has the edge on some of the other leagues- you look at the Group of 5 for the last 10 years and you see at the top mostly schools that are now in the Big 12 and ACC.

Let's see which programs step up in that league first.
 

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So, if Boise State goes 12-0, with OOC wins over as many power-4 (or 5 or X?) teams as they can schedule (a decade ago)... then maybe, maybe they crack #12?
Who else has a real shot, Liberty and FAU?

Sucks for Notre Dame and BYU, I guess (but don't feel any pity for)
 

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So, if Boise State goes 12-0, with OOC wins over as many power-4 (or 5 or X?) teams as they can schedule (a decade ago)... then maybe, maybe they crack #12?
Who else has a real shot, Liberty and FAU?

Sucks for Notre Dame and BYU, I guess (but don't feel any pity for)
They'd be very likely to get an auto-bid as the highest ranked group of 5 champion in this case.
 

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I'm not seeing that above?
Who even is the group of 5 now? Does the PAC-2 count?
"Power 5" and "Group of 5" are not an official thing, they are a media creation to describe power hierarchies in FBS football. Technically all conferences are equal and have equal access to the playoff. There is a minimum number of teams required for a conference to be recognzied by the NCAA though, so no the PAC-2 wouldn't get anything.

But there are now 4 "Power" conferences. Big 12, B1G, ACC, SEC. Group of 5 is CUSA, MAC, MW, Sun Belt, and AAC. Put the "Pac 2" in the same conversation as Notre Dame if they don't find a qualifying conference home.

5 conferences are guaranteed an auto-bid spot. It'll be the "Power 4" 100% of the time barring something catastrophic, and one of the other 5 conferences making up that 5th auto-bid. An undefeated team would almost certainly get it.
 

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It would kind of be funny if the 12 teams were a 9-3 Oregon State, Michigan, Ohio State, Clemson, Utah, and 7 SEC teams

edit: guess it can’t be Oregon State booo
 

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"Power 5" and "Group of 5" are not an official thing, they are a media creation to describe power hierarchies in FBS football. Technically all conferences are equal and have equal access to the playoff.
The CFP was technically conference neutral but the broader NY6 system was not: the ACC, Big 12, Big 10, Pac 12, and SEC champions all had a guaranteed spot with one slot held for the others.
 

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5 conferences are guaranteed an auto-bid spot. It'll be the "Power 4" 100% of the time barring something catastrophic, and one of the other 5 conferences making up that 5th auto-bid. An undefeated team would almost certainly get it.
I mean, probably. But we're not that far removed from the AAC's champion being the third-highest ranked (2021), let alone fourth. I know the teams have changed, but if Tulane goes undefeated next year and the Big 12's champ finishes with 2 or even 3 losses (like in 2022), I don't think it's necessarily a lock that the Big 12 gets the 4 seed.

edit: I mean, I'm sure the committee will screw Tulane in that situation, but I don't think it getting to that place is all that unlikely.
 

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I mean, probably. But we're not that far removed from the AAC's champion being the third-highest ranked (2021), let alone fourth. I know the teams have changed, but if Tulane goes undefeated next year and the Big 12's champ finishes with 2 or even 3 losses (like in 2022), I don't think it's necessarily a lock that the Big 12 gets the 4 seed.

edit: I mean, I'm sure the committee will screw Tulane in that situation, but I don't think it getting to that place is all that unlikely.
For a P5 champion to miss the playoffs there would have to be TWO group of 5 champions that are higher ranked. That’s what I meant by catastrophic.
 

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So I'm not remotely feeling bad for Notre Dame, but since they're still an independent in football, this system means that while they certainly can make the playoffs, they can never be a top-4 seed and receive a bye, since those go to the four highest ranked conference champions.

I wonder if this will force ND to join a conference in football.
 

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So I'm not remotely feeling bad for Notre Dame, but since they're still an independent in football, this system means that while they certainly can make the playoffs, they can never be a top-4 seed and receive a bye, since those go to the four highest ranked conference champions.

I wonder if this will force ND to join a conference in football.
This was a compromise Notre Dame was willing to make: playing the extra game in the postseason is a fair trade for never having to play in the conference championship game. An undefeated Notre Dame would have to go 16-0 either way.

Seems like this is rapidly heading to 14 or even 16 soon enough anyway.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39572477/cfp-officials-discuss-expanding-14-team-playoff-2026
 

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So I'm not remotely feeling bad for Notre Dame, but since they're still an independent in football, this system means that while they certainly can make the playoffs, they can never be a top-4 seed and receive a bye, since those go to the four highest ranked conference champions.

I wonder if this will force ND to join a conference in football.
So not only was this something Notre Dame brought up, but the 5th seed is almost always going to be advantageous for them if they are the 5 seed assuming they're a true top 4 seed level team. They avoid having to play the extra game of a conference championship but they get to play the 12 seed who will almost always be a Liberty or Tulane type that they should be favored by over a touchdown on AT HOME, then they get to play the 4 seed who is the weakest of the 4 conference champions which could be a Big 12 team that they will always have more talent over or a team that upset the more "deserving" higher ranked team.