Celtics sign Oshae Brissett
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I've abandoned any "big picture" level criticism of Joe Mazzulla as a coach. But I will say I wish he played the energy guys like Brissett a little more during this "doldrums" part of the season.
You'll probably get your wish more post-ASB.
Also, and this is maybe too Machiavellian (but not by much): the Cs don't have Brissett's Bird Rights this summer. If he looks good in extended minutes, he is gone, 100%. However, if the team believes in him, but he stays in a limited role, they could re-sign him to another min with a player option, and then be able to pay him more in 2025 if he is useful.
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It’s so tough to evaluate true talent level (as a viewer) against a B or C squad. The tools look great, but against what defense? I remember thinking Andray Blatche was a real up and comer based on garbage time in DC.
That said, I wonder if the whole Bench Mob benefit from playing together from time to time like this. Bet it makes them all more confident at the least.
Brissett has a lot of fun behind the scenes footage from C's trips on his youtube channel, for your all star break viewing
I continue to be a Brissett fan. I'd love if we could find a way to retain him as a deep bench piece.
4th wing, behind the Jays and Hauser, with a defense-first role when he does see the court? I do imagine he's very useful at practice, as a foil for the starters. But we don't really expect him to get much better at shooting or passing, right? I'd think there are probably better deep bench options out there that we might want to explore as longshot development projects. For now that's his role, and for the vet min it's no big deal, but I'm not super excited to have him taking a roster spot long term.
That’s why I expect him to pick up his option. He isn’t getting a deal that pays more than the vet min from anyone.
They could also give him another 1+1 min with a player option. He gets a tiny bit of security, and the team gets early bird rights in 2025.
Yes, I'm just asking the question (because I'm unsure of what I think) as to how the Celtics view him. Obviously he's got an option so he can come back. Clearly was a culture fit, though everyone looks like a fit when you're winning like we did. But do they think he has long term (bench) potential, or is just a stopgap for now? If he going to be one of the first to make way for the next prospect / 2nd rounder / reclamation project? I'd think Svi, Davison, Peterson and maybe Queta are ahead of him in line to walk the plank, though all but Svi are on two-way deals. They already chucked Banton and Lamar Stevens (who I thought were clearly more useless). Springer and Walsh will get another year at least. Tillman, Kornet and the top-8 playoff rotation are obviously staying and ahead of him, unless they decide to leave. So it may well be that he is the most disposable player who is on the first-team roster and can't be optioned to Maine.
I am pretty sure his option is barely more than the vet minimum at this point. Both his option and the vet min for someone with his tenure is in the $2.5 million range (https://www.spotrac.com/nba/cba/minimum)
I still expect him to pick up his player option too (I forgot about that)....with it likely being his last year in Boston, replaced with a rookie or 2nd year type in 2025.
Saw this thread after mentioning Brissett in the NBA Draft thread. Yeah he does have a player option. There is zero chance he picks it up. First he declines the option then he could re-sign with Boston but he’s never simply picking up that option without it being structured differently. I would say 70/30 he plays elsewhere next season on a better offer.
Can the Cs save tax money by keeping the roster spot open all year, or do they eventually have to fill it? Could make sense to bring him back: he still has some upside, and they'd be able to easily retain him if he somehow popped.
At the same time, with Baylor on the team, and Hauser re-signed, there aren't many wing minutes left, even if some guys get hurt.
At the same time, with Baylor on the team, and Hauser re-signed, there aren't many wing minutes left, even if some guys get hurt.
Yeah, the C's save tax $$$ staying at 14. With 3 two-ways 15 isn't all that necessary
I'm surprised the 76ers or Pacers didn't pick him up. His shot is completely broken but he's active on the boards. Thought he brought some extra energy to those middle-of-the-season games.
Not a bad back-of-the-roster player for a playoff team.
With little flexibility, Brad even found a way to upgrade 10-13* on this roster from the start of last season
Moved: Oshae, Svi, Banton, Stevens
Signed: Tillman, Springer, Queta, Baylor
*Jordan Walsh firmly owns the 14th spot
Yes, they can save money. There is only an "Incomplete Roster Charge" to the cap (as a cap hold, really) if the active roster is <12 players. Then again, right now our marginal tax multiple is 4.25, so even at a vet min (which counts as $2.09M vs cap this year), he would effectively cost the team $10.96M, after the $8.87M in tax on top of his salary. Having him available has value if we have a midseason injury, but also there are always replacement players available (or in Maine) who can do the job, so that's a steep price just to have him be a sure thing.
And our two-way players (Davison, Peterson, Anton Watson) are really only a temporary patch-up, they won't help if we have a long-term injury to a wing. There is a little-known mechanism that applies to teams who have fewer than 15 standard NBA contracts in effect: basically the total number of two-way players active for games, summed up across all games for which any two-way player was active, has a maximum of 90 in the regular season. That could be 1 rotating two-way player each of the 82, that could be some games where we have 2 or even all 3 two-way guys active but then some games where we have to just roll with a shorter roster. So keeping the slot open is in some ways a bet on health, because two-ways (like Watson, who is at least a similar physical profile to Brissett) can't fully bridge a big gap for us.
I will say, if he were amenable, signing Oshae to a standard G League contract with higher-than-typical G League pay would be a nice insurance policy (he's ineligible for a two-way), since we can always convert him to the NBA roster if need be. I would think if a standard NBA contract on a vet-minimum were available to him from any other team, he'd have signed it already.
And I hope @Cellar-Door will change the thread name, or perhaps, we should lock this thread (since the guy is, as of now, not an employee of the Boston Celtics) and talk about him as a former Celtic, or in theoretical terms in the summer/offseason thread.
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