They have their own network offering. https://whl.ca/whlliveIs there a subscription or free way to watch that league? Would love to see more of him.
There’s a lot of room to add muscle to that frame. Get him into the weight room and we might be looking at a top 4 defenseman with that skill/size.Mason Lohrei wasted no time getting his first goal in a 2-1 loss to Bentley.
View: https://twitter.com/bruinsnetwork/status/1446666215225712641?s=21
Yes, he is.Appreciate the update. Isn’t Lohrei a defenseman?
He's 6 months younger than Lysell (both 2003).Harrison's numbers jump out. Is he old for the league?
Not really. The league is composed of 16-20 year olds and he's 18 (turns 19 in June).Harrison's numbers jump out. Is he old for the league?
Same here!Really appreciate these updates, cshea.
I'm not sure anyone has said he could. He, like most all college defenseman not named McAvoy, would almost certainly benefit from a year of seasoning at the AHL level to get used to pro level speed and physicality. That being said, he's a big kid with good hands and good wheels whose only major criticism seems to be "he's old for his cohort", and even that doesn't really hold up when you consider that he converted to defense as a 16 year old. Compared to a number of the guys picked before him, including a lot of the other D-men, I'm damn impressed by how he's performed thus far. I mean, he's putting up numbers like Jake Sanderson, who is younger but has far more experience, and was picked #5 in 2020. That's just wild to me.Let's be honest, the college game is about 25-30% slower than the NHL and probably slower than any major junior leagues.
He looks good, but I doubt he could step right into the NHL and be an effective two way dman.
I don't think anyone is suggesting he steps in right away. The general idea is that he'd start off in Providence and go from there.Let's be honest, the college game is about 25-30% slower than the NHL and probably slower than any major junior leagues.
He looks good, but I doubt he could step right into the NHL and be an effective two way dman.
I'm with you here. NCAA hockey is proving to be a pretty good barometer of NHL success over the past decade. There are a bunch of examples of guys going straight to the NHL and being effective and not just stars like Fox and McAvoy. K'Andre Miller had a good year in his D+2 year and made the rangers out of camp last year. Zac Jones finished his season at umass last year and walked onto the rangers blue line. He's having a pretty good year in the AHL. Same with David Farrance out of BU, Boldy is going to play for the wild at some point this year (hes PPG in the AHL since signing out of BC last spring.) Newhook, Pinto, Caufield etc etc. It's not really uncommon anymore.I don't think anyone is suggesting he steps in right away. The general idea is that he'd start off in Providence and go from there.
I'd also argue that the NCAA is not behind or slower than the major junior leagues. The NCAA is producting a ton of high quality NHL defenseman. A good chunk of these players are skipping the AHL entirely and making the jump from NCAA to the NHL. McAvoy, Cale Makar and Adam Fox are Norris caliber defenseman that made the leap. Quinn Hughes is a young stud who did the same. Noah Hanifin and Colton Parayko are older, middle tier guys who went straight to the NHL from college hockey. The #1 pick in last years draft, Owen Power, is a defenseman at Michigan who will likely make the NCAA to NHL jump after this season, unless Buffalo holds him back until they get a more solid foundation in place.
The Bruins had, for my money, their best draft in years in 2021. And so despite having graduated or moved six of the 16 players who appeared in last year’s ranking, I’m still higher on where Boston’s pool is at than I have been in years.
It’s still lacking in both quality and quantity relative to the field, but it’s definitely in better shape than it has been in each of the previous two years of this project. They’ve progressed from having a group made up entirely of peripherally-interesting depth pieces, to one that now has at least a small number of players who project higher into an NHL lineup at their ceilings. A couple of those were drafted in 2021. And another has progressed better than I anticipated to establish himself as a legitimate prospect.
Players over 23 are not considered "prospects" for that guy, so Vaak not being listed is purely a byproduct of age.No Vaakanainen. Lauzon all over again. The Athletic guys just make things up.
Well that is a stupid cutoff. He just turned 23 on New Years. He’s all of 6 weeks older than Studnicka who was drafted in the same year and still qualifies by their dumb definition.Players over 23 are not considered "prospects" for that guy, so Vaak not being listed is purely a byproduct of age.
I have no idea what systems around the league look like but how much of this is simply the cost of competing every single year? Always picking later in rounds, often trading decent picks for short-term help, etc. They haven't made a futures trade in 5+ years so it's basically draft or bust in terms of acquiring good prospects. By never having a fire sale they don't get the benefit of acquiring legit prospects with track records beyond their draft year. Obviously, it's a huge issue that they haven't been very good at consistently drafting and developing impact players from within. Given the top end talent on the NHL roster, that has essentially been the difference between the excellent team they have been and the absolute juggernaut they could have been.The low ranking (#27) continues to be a bummer for this system. The big club could really use a big time addition (top 2 lines or defensive pairings) but hasn't had one for a long time, and I don't see much on the horizon. Lysell and Swayman are the only two guys that excite me. Maybe Lohrei for a while until I found out he's a 21 year old freshman! Almost feels like we're going backwards as it wasn't long ago that Lauko and Stud looked like quality prospects, but they've really fallen off. Just like the Sox minor league players, I think we overrate our guys - remember how excited we were about Ryan Donato as a potential 2nd liner?
Just want to point out that both were Swedish guys that didn't flash the high end tools teams look for in draft picks, but were strongly advocated for by PJ Axelsson. They took 3 more Swedish players in the last draft. Lysell is the obvious headliner, but the took a goalie (Philip Svedeback) and a winger (Oskar Jellvik) in the later rounds. They'll probably continue to lean on PJ to find the later round lottery tickets to pump up the system.He's less glamorous, but Blidh was a 6th round draft pick. Getting 50 NHL games out of a 6th rounder is a scouting win, even if he's just a grinder. If Steen becomes a middle-6 guy, that's a huge win for the 5th round.
Scott Wheeler (the Athletic) with his ranking (#27) of the Bruins system:
https://theathletic.com/2991199/2022/01/15/wheelers-2022-nhl-prospect-pool-rankings-no-27-boston-bruins/?source=user_shared_article
- Lysell
- Studnicka
- Lohrei
- Harrison
- Beecher
Sure - but also he forgot about Lauko last year. Pronman and Wheeler get a lot of shine because they are at the Athletic, but they suck at their jobs.Players over 23 are not considered "prospects" for that guy, so Vaak not being listed is purely a byproduct of age.
Counterpoint - Lohrei started playing D at 16, dominated the USHL in years 3 and 4 of playing D and now is a PPG player as a D in the big 10 for a ranked team.The low ranking (#27) continues to be a bummer for this system. The big club could really use a big time addition (top 2 lines or defensive pairings) but hasn't had one for a long time, and I don't see much on the horizon. Lysell and Swayman are the only two guys that excite me. Maybe Lohrei for a while until I found out he's a 21 year old freshman! Almost feels like we're going backwards as it wasn't long ago that Lauko and Stud looked like quality prospects, but they've really fallen off. Just like the Sox minor league players, I think we overrate our guys - remember how excited we were about Ryan Donato as a potential 2nd liner?
The worst systems in the league are Tampa, Pittsburgh, Kraken, NYI, Caps, Boston, and Canucks (lol) depending on which source you use, so ya. If you're good for a while, your prospect pools going to be kinda bad.I have no idea what systems around the league look like but how much of this is simply the cost of competing every single year? Always picking later in rounds, often trading decent picks for short-term help, etc. They haven't made a futures trade in 5+ years so it's basically draft or bust in terms of acquiring good prospects. By never having a fire sale they don't get the benefit of acquiring legit prospects with track records beyond their draft year. Obviously, it's a huge issue that they haven't been very good at consistently drafting and developing impact players from within. Given the top end talent on the NHL roster, that has essentially been the difference between the excellent team they have been and the absolute juggernaut they could have been.
On their current roster, absolutely. Svechnikov is was the second overall pick, Necas was 12(? i think). Their current prospect pool is strong mostly bc of shrewd drafting later in the draft, though. Who knows how these kids pan out, but the consensus around prospect guys is that the canes have a strong system and most of them arent high picks.Carolina missed the playoffs for 9 straight years before their current run of success so there was certainly a lot of suck tied within there.
He’s on the exact same scoring pace as he was in the USHL. I think his skills translate.Lohrei had another big weekend. 1-4+5 in 2 games. He's up to 4-25+29 in 30 games. He's tied for the division 1 lead in points among defenseman, and is tied for 3rd in assists among all skaters.
He's 20, a freshman, and is 6 foot 4. Hard not to get excited about his progress. I'm not sure what the plan is for him, but I suspect there will be a lot of debate about bringing him in after Ohio State's season ends. They have 2 more weeks of the regular season before the B1G playoffs and then the NCAA's if they qualify (they are bubble).
Lassi Alanen posted a bunch of viz's about prospects this weekend and Lohrei's is below. Absolutely elite offensively but bad defensively. I've watched him 5 or 6 times this year and that tracks. Given his size and skill level, my guess it he gets better but I bet it pushes his timeline back a year or so.He’s on the exact same scoring pace as he was in the USHL. I think his skills translate.