That's what I was thinking. Has Carr not showed them enough to keep Brissett?This can't bode well for Carr, no? Former first round pick with real speed so seems like decent value.
The problem I think with trading Jacoby is that they will now need a new backup QB next year. Is next year's QB class going to be deep?Posted in transactions thread but phenomenal use of resources IMO. Third string QB for 3 years of control
They'll sign JimmyThe problem I think with trading Jacoby is that they will now need a new backup QB next year. Is next year's QB class going to be deep?
I think this take is spot on. At worst they will just let him return punts and run flysIt has shown to be really tough for WRs to transition into the Pats system, so I would think they aren't going to count on Dorsett for much right out of the gate. I think they just like Dorsett and think it is great value to get him with 3 years of control for a 3rd string QB they were going to have to cut.
The only justification?The only justification I can think of is they want two speed guys on the outside to draw safeties and open up defenses as much as possible, .
To trade your backup, a guy with two years in the system, if Jimmy bolts?The only justification?
I think this signifies a full time move for Hogan into the slot.The only justification I can think of is they want two speed guys on the outside to draw safeties and open up defenses as much as possible, which tells me they want to feed Allen, Gronk, Amendola, and the RBs as much as possible.
It just seems like Dorsett is redundant to Mitchell?
Maybe there's a surprise cut coming our way.
Edit: Autocorrect is a bitch.
The Patriots may have inside information on whether or not they are going to let Jimmy bolt.To trade your backup, a guy with two years in the system, if Jimmy bolts?
Yes.
Dorsett isn't the return man we need and we're still strong at WR. There doesn't seem to be much of a point?
That's still just a slightly more complicated way of saying 3rd string QBTo trade your backup, a guy with two years in the system, if Jimmy bolts?
https://www.sbnation.com/2017/8/30/16150196/phillip-dorsett-colts-2017-nfl-season-previewWhy Phillip Dorsett is the Colts’ breakout player this season
Colts wide receiver Phillip Dorsett is a guy I broke down when he was coming out of college. He wasn't very big at 5'10 and 185 pounds, but he was explosive as hell. The thing that I noted in that breakdown was that his college coaches at Miami just didn't seem to get the ball in his hands nearly enough. He had the kind of talent that you normally want to feed, but they didn't even seem to make an attempt to do so.
That made his evaluation really frustrating because when he did get opportunities he made plays. I mean the guy averaged over 24 yards a reception, which is fucking insane at any level of football. He had 10 touchdowns on just 40 catches which was also absurd. Because of all that untapped potential, I figured Dorsett's best days would be ahead of him in the NFL where teams were more likely to actually throw him the ball.
That hasn't quite been the case so far in his first two seasons in the league.
His rookie year he got off to a slow start. He missed five games in the regular season, didn't have any starts, only caught 18 balls, and averaged a paltry 12.5 yards per catch to go with one touchdown. Not exactly what Indianapolis expected when it took him in the first round.
Last season he bounced back a little bit and played in all but one game with seven starts. His statistics also picked up a bit with 33 catches and a 16.5 yards per catch average to go with two touchdowns. Not bad for a number three wide receiver, but again, I'm sure the Colts didn't envision him as a number three receiver when they selected him.
Dorsett hasn't been the only problem with the Colts offense the last couple of years. Their offensive line seems to suck every season, and their franchise quarterback Andrew Luck has been banged up quite a bit too. Heading into this season Luck is coming off shoulder surgery. The word is that he should be healthy early in the season and that the offensive line should be one of the best in recent memory, at least on paper. If Luck is in fact healthy and his line protects him better, that should help everyone else on offense, including Dorsett, perform better.
His third year was always when I expected Dorsett to break out. I didn't expect his production his first two years to be quite that low. His athleticism and ability jumped off the screen, but it was readily apparent that he need some polishing on his route running and other nuances of playing the receiver position. Now that he has gotten his feet wet, I think its time for Dorsett to really take off.
Watch his film and he does have some drops, but I think the Colts would do well to get him the ball out in space a little more because he is faaaaaassssst and he knows how to make it happen with the ball in his hands. Dorsett still has to get better at catching the ball downfield, and I think he will.
If he can stay healthy this year, I not only expect his numbers to take a step forward, I would expect them to skyrocket.
The playmaking ability is there. If his quarterback isn't running for his life, the stage is set for Phillip Dorsett to have a big year opposite T.Y. Hilton. That's why he's my pick for the Colts' breakout player of 2017.
So will they franchise their backup?The Patriots may have inside information on whether or not they are going to let Jimmy bolt.
And your reply was just a slightly more complicated way of bringing nothing to the thread.That's still just a slightly more complicated way of saying 3rd string QB
I do think it is hard not to see this as a signal that either:So will they franchise their backup?
If if they plan to make him the starter, who backs up Jimmy?
I mean, I know a lot can happen between now and then, it just seems like a bit of a rash decision. But I admit, as others are indirectly pointing out, I don't know what goes behind closed doors at Gillette, it just seems like a move that historically doesn't go well for the Pats (due to aforementioned system complexities) and we already have an extremely talented WR group.
I can't help but wonder if there's a surprise cut coming at WR (Dola?)
This is BB's primary motive. His gamble on Cyrus Jones failed (though not necessarily for the reasons we expected), and he's covering his losses. He can always grab Kaepernick (or someone else) if something bad happens that makes the 3rd string QB relevant.Looks like he has done some limited kickoff and punt returning, wonder how much that factors into it?
I'm surprised so many people here are assuming this isn't TB12's last season.I do think it is hard not to see this as a signal that either:
1.) They aren't happy with Brissett's progress and were going to cut him
2.).They plan on franchising/re-signing Jimmy G and don't need a roster spot for a 3rd stringer who is highly unlikely to play
I'm more likely to be the Patriots third-string quarterback. If you remember, President Trump went off scrip and started talking about Kaep during a speech ... immediately following a plane ride he shared with Kraft.This is BB's primary motive. His gamble on Cyrus Jones failed (though not necessarily for the reasons we expected), and he's covering his losses. He can always grab Kaepernick (or someone else) if something bad happens that makes the 3rd string QB relevant.
I wouldn't be shocked by that to be honest, although every indication that TB12 has given is that he wants to go 3-4 more years. If he was injured bad, I could see it. If they go 19-0 or something crazy, I could see it. I just think there is a low probability of that happening -- and it isn't happening because of Jimmy G's contract situation IMO.I'm surprised so many people here are assuming this isn't TB12's last season.
I mean, isn't that obviously the Occam's Razor answer to "why didn't the Pats move JG to Cleveland for 3 2nd round picks?
I think the point is Brissett was going to be cut because they don't like him enough and they found a trade that may add value to their team. Also if I'm not mistaken Brady has been backed up by rookies before. Undrafted rookies at that.To trade your backup, a guy with two years in the system, if Jimmy bolts?
Yes.
Dorsett isn't the return man we need and we're still strong at WR. There doesn't seem to be much of a point?
The Colts don't need a long-term starter, but a long-term backup.I'm surprised so many people here are assuming this isn't TB12's last season.
I mean, isn't that obviously the Occam's Razor answer to "why didn't the Pats move JG to Cleveland for 3 2nd round picks?
Hey now.However, I do think Brady's gone after this year. Won't be his last year in the NFL, though.
There crazy incredulity/resentment here that JG was not dealt. It's simply inconceivable to a lot of people that both could be on the roster next year.I'm surprised so many people here are assuming this isn't TB12's last season.
I mean, isn't that obviously the Occam's Razor answer to "why didn't the Pats move JG to Cleveland for 3 2nd round picks?
This is too Belichickian not to happen.The first part of my hypothetical has a < 1% chance of happening and, even if it did, the second part would also have a < 1% chance of happening, but I'd love to see the Patriots sign Kaepernick to be the 3rd-string QB and use him in occasional two-QB sets. I'm less than 1% kidding.
I'm in the same camp as you. I guess I've implicitly assumed that DE is our biggest need by far, but it could be that either this trade was too good to pass up, or Belichick has his eye on someone else with a different way of acquiring him. Either way, we'll know soon enough.JB's nice performance against the 3rd string G-men probably boosted the return but I'm a little surprised that a DE wasn't the target.
Hightower has been practicing with the DEs since returning so he may see time there situationally.I'm in the same camp as you. I guess I've implicitly assumed that DE is our biggest need by far, but it could be that either this trade was too good to pass up, or Belichick has his eye on someone else with a different way of acquiring him. Either way, we'll know soon enough.