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heat defensive plan was to allow good one on one matchups and hope they could defend them. Took away Celtics passing. And celts fell for it
Agree that MIA was encouraging 1 on 1 and then it looked to me that MIA would send late help and the BOS players wouldn't/couldn't find the open guy. Hopefully they'll figure this out and change. But definitely not enough ball movement.

Also, when BOS can't get out in transition because the other team is making baskets, then their offense loses some effectiveness. It's been that way for a couple of year. KP usually helps out on that but he wasn't on tonight.

sure but the coach’s job is to optimize the players - does anyone disagree that we sweep with Spoelstra?

why on earth would you pair an unproven coach with an elite roster whose stars, if anything, need help getting over the hump to get a ring!?
I'm pretty sure Spoelstra wasn't available. I mean the Cs could have hired Budenholzer - he has a ring and is experienced. You think that would have been better?

Charles Smith and Cassell might have been candidates if they had been able to do a proper job search but they're here anyways.

I'm pretty sure they didn't have any better options.
 

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it won’t be the same plan next game. That’s why Spo is best coach in the league.
I mean it should be. Spo is a good coach, and as such he knows the only way his team can win is how they beat a bunch of teams last year.... launch as many 3s as possible and hope to shoot a high percent. Miami has literally no other route to a win.

The Celtics had an AWFUL offensive game... MIA still had to make a franchise record number of 3s to win.
 

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I don’t think Mazzulla is a bad coach. I think he’s pretty good.

However, he seems to be very stubborn in adjusting his game plan during the game. Spo ate his lunch today. It was a high risk plan but it’s the only way the Heat could have won and Mazzulla just didn’t adjust to what they were doing
 

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Everyone should, this team had all the exact same problems under Ime, and Brad.....

also, way fewer teams sweep any series than you think, Sixers had the only 1st round sweep last year, in fact the last time there was more than 1 sweep in the 1st round was 2019-20.
See the 2008 Celtics.
 

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Yeah people liked to say last year’s Caleb Martin outburst was just random variance like tonight’s hot shooting maybe but the reality of last seasons series was they didn’t give half a damn to defend the perimeter and guys had open gym looks left and right. 53% doesn’t happen by accident.
This is spot on, they have these stretches where they go under every screen and overhelp off 3-point shooters and it's been driving my nuts since Brad was the coach.
 

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No? I mean the guy is a fucking nut. I don’t mind him and I think he’s a pretty good coach. He’s also a major fucking weirdo. I mean I think he’d agree with that to be honest.
You called him a tool and a whack job.. what are we in high school?
 

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This is spot on, they have these stretches where they go under every screen and overhelp off 3-point shooters and it's been driving my nuts since Brad was the coach.
Also it’s really hard to get around a screen that’s always moving out
 

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They didn't lay eggs against vastly inferior opponents at home though. To not match the other team's intensity at home is concerning because we saw the exact same shit last year. It's perplexing.
Yeah, every time I try to console myself by thinking about the Game 7s in 2008, I remember that they always held serve at home. You just can’t lose to weaker teams at home.
 

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Obviously they’ll win the series but two games in and we already have our first odd effort. Refused to close out to shooters all night, played at an extremely slow pace, especially when down late, and tried to go 1 on 1 matchup hunting instead of running offense. We all saw it but apparently they just couldn’t adjust? What the fuck
I feel like the first sentence of this post was probably written last year too. We kept thinking these guys would pull their heads out of their asses long enough to beat a clearly inferior team that was lucky to even make the playoffs and then they didn't.
 

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I still expect the Cs to get to the Finals, with a few dings. But if they do get there it will be their exceptional skills and depth making up for a lazy, la di da undisciplined approach. And a not ready for prime time coach.
 

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Whatever it takes they just need to get by this team and the stupid mental block they have against them.

The thing that is a little scary is this loss wasn’t from the usual turnover fest which has contributed to recent playoff losses and is easier to point to and say “well they can fix that.”
 

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I still expect the Cs to get to the Finals, with a few dings. But if they do get there it will be their exceptional skills and depth making up for a lazy, la di da undisciplined approach. And a not ready for prime time coach.
Cool.. that’s probably how they won all those games in the regular season too
 

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Cool.. that’s probably how they won all those games in the regular season too
Honest question…you don’t understand why people are disappointed after tonight? I mean, these are all pretty reasonable critiques and you’re responding to them like they’re Eddie Jurak coming off of a bender complaining about a random Tuesday night game against Atlanta.

EDIT: It’s not a huge deal but it’s disappointing they lost to this Miami team at home. Its weak to act like people expressing that are somehow lesser fans or major whiners that don’t understand the game
 

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Sensible folks here are making sensible posts. The rest of us are freaking out. We thought this year would be different, but the Cs are replaying a movie we’ve seen before, one that doesn’t have a happy ending.
 

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Whatever it takes they just need to get by this team and the stupid mental block they have against them.
If only it was just against the Heat, but it's not. They've been constantly losing games at home they shouldn't for years. Lost Game 5 at home to the Hawks last year with Dejounte Murray suspended. Lost Game 1 against Philly with Embiid out. Game 5 against Milwaukee two seasons ago after being up 6 with 2 minutes to go. I really thought this would be the year they dominate at least up until the Finals, especially at home considering the regular season. But it took just 2 games for them to drop a home game in which they were favored by 14 in. And while they'll likely win the series, it's just another example of them coming up small when things aren't going their way and the other team is hitting shots. Really disappointing.
 

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In fairness, that is what makes them the worst team in the playoffs. I believe they're a middle of the pack team with those two healthy.
Reminds me of last year's Game 5 loss to Atlanta, possibly the worst team in the playoffs, at home with a chance to close it out. It's just inexplicable to me that they lay these eggs at home to mediocre teams. Red flag then, red flag now.
 

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These kinds of plays I was just not understanding:

View: https://twitter.com/stevejones20/status/1783307316625818023


Why do we need DWhite helping off of Martin, leaving Jaylen completely fucked with no way to guard two guys, especially given Jrue has nowhere to rotate to? If DWhite is going to help like that, why isn't Jrue going under so he can rotate to Martin as White shuts off Herro? At least that makes some sense. Or, if White is going to help onto Herro, he's got to trap hard and at least make it a difficult pass! He's just in no-mans-land and Martin just gets a shootaround 3. I just don't understand the scheme there at all.
 

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These kinds of plays I was just not understanding:

View: https://twitter.com/stevejones20/status/1783307316625818023


Why do we need DWhite helping off of Martin, leaving Jaylen completely fucked with no way to guard two guys, especially given Jrue has nowhere to rotate to? If DWhite is going to help like that, why isn't Jrue going under so he can rotate to Martin as White shuts off Herro? At least that makes some sense. Or, if White is going to help onto Herro, he's got to trap hard and at least make it a difficult pass! He's just in no-mans-land and Martin just gets a shootaround 3. I just don't understand the scheme there at all.
THIS!!!!

I believe this play was right out of a timeout too…just made absolutely 0 sense
 

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These kinds of plays I was just not understanding:

View: https://twitter.com/stevejones20/status/1783307316625818023


Why do we need DWhite helping off of Martin, leaving Jaylen completely fucked with no way to guard two guys, especially given Jrue has nowhere to rotate to? If DWhite is going to help like that, why isn't Jrue going under so he can rotate to Martin as White shuts off Herro? At least that makes some sense. Or, if White is going to help onto Herro, he's got to trap hard and at least make it a difficult pass! He's just in no-mans-land and Martin just gets a shootaround 3. I just don't understand the scheme there at all.
Right, like this is completely noncompetitive defense and whether it’s bad scheme or poor attention to detail or the players doing the wrong thing, it shouldn’t be happening in the 84th game in a must-have possession.

Miami isn’t reinventing the wheel here.
 

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Like, what the fuck is White doing here? Making sure Bam doesn't roll? Guarding against the pass to the corner? Exasperated guy is going to have a field day.

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Right, like this is completely noncompetitive defense and whether it’s bad scheme or poor attention to detail or the players doing the wrong thing, it shouldn’t be happening in the 84th game in a must-have possession.

Miami isn’t reinventing the wheel here.
A team with White and Jrue at guard and Jay’s on the wing shouldn’t struggle to contain the 3 point line like they did tonight. So disheartening.
 

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Bam was killing anyone the Cs put on him. He absolutely destroyed KP all night and essentially took him out of the game. Al is great but tonight he wasn't able to keep Bam from his spot. That left the Cs with bad choices of leaving shooters open to help against BA or continuing to let him absolutely eat all he wanted.

I get the idea of leaving Miami's shooters given the situation/personnel - it was a bet for reversion that failed miserably. Math sucks when you are on the wrong side of it.

Edit: Also, a part of me kept expecting Marcus to blow stuff up down the stretch and fire up the crowd. But he isn't walking through that door.
 

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Bam was killing anyone the Cs put on him. He absolutely destroyed KP all night and essentially took him out of the game. Al is great but tonight he wasn't able to keep Bam from his spot. That left the Cs with bad choices of leaving shooters open to help against BA or continuing to let him absolutely eat all he wanted.

I get the idea of leaving Miami's shooters given the situation/personnel - it was a bet for reversion that failed miserably. Math sucks when you are on the wrong side of it.
If they think it’s more important to send ineffective help D at Bam shooting midrange 2s than to defend the three point line, then I retract my earlier statements about not being concerned about this series.

We saw the same thing last year. You run guys role players off the line and make them make plays. You don’t assume they will start missing eventually. It’s a passive mindset. I guarantee if you force them to make extra passes and/or dribble off the line you will generate enough turnovers, misses, or bad plays, that you won’t care if Bam is getting his looks from 12 feet.

Just not sure what they are worried about that they’re OK giving so many open gym looks to an NBA team.
 

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Honest question…you don’t understand why people are disappointed after tonight? I mean, these are all pretty reasonable critiques and you’re responding to them like they’re Eddie Jurak coming off of a bender complaining about a random Tuesday night game against Atlanta.

EDIT: It’s not a huge deal but it’s disappointing they lost to this Miami team at home. Its weak to act like people expressing that are somehow lesser fans or major whiners that don’t understand the game
Forget it, Jake. It's Lars10town.
 

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Just got home from the game. Not even remotely shocked by the result. I took the Heat and the over going in. Game 2s are always fucked up.

Git a million thoughts on this one. A few of them. Cs played right into their hands tonight, no pace, half court game, allowed Miami to muck everything up and dictate the flow. Our new guys, KP and Jrue played their worst games of the year.

Miami made everything they looked at. Everything. The Cs kept forcing perfect passes into lanes that weren't there (half court mucked up) every time they had a chance to make a run. Officiating was terrible but I think the entire playoffs will be like this.

I could keep going, but I don't think there is a spread high enough in which I wouldn't bet the Cs in gone 3. Just fucking push the pace, on makes, on misses. Stop letting Miami set up their grab and go defense and blitz ball handlers on defense so Bams illegal screens require 4 steps instead of 2.
 

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If they think it’s more important to send ineffective help D at Bam shooting midrange 2s than to defend the three point line, then I retract my earlier statements about not being concerned about this series.

We saw the same thing last year. You run guys role players off the line and make them make plays. You don’t assume they will start missing eventually. It’s a passive mindset. I guarantee if you force them to make extra passes and/or dribble off the line you will generate enough turnovers, misses, or bad plays, that you won’t care if Bam is getting his looks from 12 feet.

Just not sure what they are worried about that they’re OK giving so many open gym looks to an NBA team.
Exactly. So Bam scores 30 on 20 shots. We can’t live with that?
 

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Caleb Martin 5-6 from deep. I don't give a shit how bad the defense is or isn't the horseshoe up this scrub's ass is just incredible. It's literally unbelievable.