Damon didn’t bother me terribly. The Sox didn’t want to pay him, and the Yankees had every right to sign him. Winning in 2007 validated most of their post 2004 decisions.
This for me as well.I’m still not over the Texas Con Man going to the Blue Jays, nevermind the Yankees.
Well, he's got 3 home runs in 390 PAs so far this year, which means he'll hit about 20 for the Yanks the rest of the season.It's so weird but this Benintendi one stings. I know the Sox traded him away, and then he was traded to NY, so it's not like he went there as a free agent. But still...you just KNOW he's gonna rake for them and it's going to be incredibly painful to watch. And I always liked him and wanted him to succeed here.
Yes. He came out to congratulate Yaz after his 3000th hit as the great Ned Martin intoned, "The Boomer, George Scott!". Some things you never forget.Wait, Boomer Scott played for the Yankees?!
I doubt he’ll rake, but he may poke enough soft liners to right to keep hitting .300. I felt certain Beni would become a Yankee. Was never really in on him as a Sox but can understand how it stings.It's so weird but this Benintendi one stings. I know the Sox traded him away, and then he was traded to NY, so it's not like he went there as a free agent. But still...you just KNOW he's gonna rake for them and it's going to be incredibly painful to watch. And I always liked him and wanted him to succeed here.
Whenever I see that clip, I make sure I watch to see Boomer. It stings a bit to see him in a NY uniform, but I still love Boomer.Yes. He came out to congratulate Yaz after his 3000th hit as the great Ned Martin intoned, "The Boomer, George Scott!". Some things you never forget.
Judging from the way he kept bringing it up for the rest of his career (if I'm remembering correctly, anyway), I'm gonna wager no.Damon was an absolute rock star in Boston in 2004. He had the hair, the nickname, the bestselling book... after the big three of Pedro, Papi, and Manny, he was easily the most popular player on the team. He could have set himself up for a lifetime of throwing out first pitches and popping into the NESN broadcast booth and glad handing his way around Fenway once a year.
Instead, he opted for $52 million and pariah status in Boston. I really wonder if the few extra million he got from New York was worth the lifelong celebrity status he gave up in Boston.
I’m here as well. It doubly stings because in 2018 he looked to be a building block for years to come. Now the Sox are below .500 and in last place, the guy we traded Benintendi for can’t play, and Benintendi is now a Yankee and is going to play a big roleIt's so weird but this Benintendi one stings. I know the Sox traded him away, and then he was traded to NY, so it's not like he went there as a free agent. But still...you just KNOW he's gonna rake for them and it's going to be incredibly painful to watch. And I always liked him and wanted him to succeed here.
Ha. And you gotta respect the steadfastness.We know what @TheoShmeo's answer would be.
That 2018 outfield....I’m here as well. It doubly stings because in 2018 he looked to be a building block for years to come. Now the Sox are below .500 and in last place, the guy we traded Benintendi for can’t play, and Benintendi is now a Yankee and is going to play a big role
in any success they have this year.
Emotionally it’s a a really shitty feeling and feels like being kicked when we are down.
I'm certainly in your boat. It's puzzling to me.I can't understand the Benintendi angst. Didn't seem like anybody was particularly sad to see him go when he was traded. He was a decent player for us, particularly in 2018, but was he a real difference maker? It's not like he turned his back on us to directly join the Yankees like Damon, Ellsbury or Tiant did.
I'd feel a lot more angst right now if the Yanks had acquired Soto last night.
Except for those games where it was Yaz-Lynn-EvansBest defensive outfield probably in Red Sox history.
I am hoping that one day, we will think the trade was Beni for Winckowski. We'll see.SJH said:...the guy we traded Benintendi for can’t play,
Yeah, maybe. I'm not sure that OF was better defensively. That would be the only other option.Except for those games where it was Yaz-Lynn-Evans
That's two-time AL All-Star Scott Cooper, my friend.The others? Whatever. Youkilis and Lowe were done, Lyle, Tiant and Scott were before my time, Ellsbury was an albatross and Damon was a mercenary. When Boggs left, people around here held the door for him. No one cared. I remember that when EEI flipped to 24-hour sports format, the morning show had a segment called "Wade Watch" and they'd talk about how well Boggs was hitting and goof on him. The prevailing wisdom was that he was washed up and it was time for the Scott Cooper era to begin.
Very true. He made everyone in New England forget about Wade Whatshisname.That's two-time AL All-Star Scott Cooper, my friend.
Benintendi put those numbers up while making 650k, which might have made him the best bargain in the league that year.That 2018 outfield....
LF - Benintendi (23): 579 ab, 103 r, 41 2b, 6 3b, 16 hr, 87 rbi, 21 sb (3 cs), .290/.366/.465/.830, 123 ops+, 4.8 bWAR
CF - Bradley Jr (28): 474 ab, 76 r, 33 2b, 4 3b, 13 hr, 59 rbi, 17 sb (1 cs), .234/.314/.403/.717, 92 ops+ , 2.5 bWAR
RF - Betts (25): 520 ab, 129 r, 47 2b, 5 3b, 32 hr, 80 rbi, 30 sb (6 cs), .346/.438/.640/1.078, 186 ops+ , 10.7 bWAR
Best defensive outfield probably in Red Sox history. Other than Bradley's low avg and obp, they were really good at the plate too. And all young. Looked like they were going to have a legendary outfield for many, many seasons.
-sigh-
Interesting question, those Yankee prospects are all 2-3 years away, and Sikkema needs to be protected this winter.Would we trade Frenchy and Winckowski for the guys the Royals got?
Seems like the answer is probably yes. Franchy seems like a possible non tender. Winckowski appears to have a limited ceiling with his lack of strikeouts, IMO. None of the other guys acquired are even among the Sox top 50 prospects. The guy the Sox got from the Mets, Freddy Valdez, was in the Mets top 20 and was expected to hit for power but hasn’t yet. De La Rosa is in the FCL but hasn’t pitched much; and the other guy Grant Gambrell has been awful and is now injured.Would we trade Frenchy and Winckowski for the guys the Royals got?
83 ERA+, 1.500 WHIP. Early returns aren't good. He's young though, we'll see.I am hoping that one day, we will think the trade was Beni for Winckowski. We'll see.
That's back to back AL All-Star, and lone RS rep both times. Those were the dark years.That's two-time AL All-Star Scott Cooper, my friend.
Ha yeah. Here's a Cooper-Boggs comparison in Cooper's all-star seasons (by the way, for a name that seems as common as "Scott Cooper", he's the only MLB player on baseball-reference with that name...color me surprised by that):That's back to back AL All-Star, and lone RS rep both times. Those were the dark years.
Then Mo made the Leap, 3 top-5 MVP finishes and a win in 4 years, and franchise turned around.
Too soonI voted Tiant on impulse but give me more time to think about it, say a couple of years, and the answer is probably Devers.
I thnk if they had hired Duquette a year sooner, Boggs goes nowhere. Lou Gorman was an old school guy and nothing demonstrated he was at the end of the line as a useful evaluator/builder of a roster than that 92-93 off-season where he let Boggs walk away so he could sign a clearly past-his-prime Andre Dawson instead. I also wouldn't discount Gorman being a stubborn son of a bitch who let Boggs go in order to promote Scott Cooper so he could be vindicated for choosing to trade Bagwell instead of Cooper for Larry Anderson. There were rumors that the Astros asked for Cooper and Gorman offered Bagwell as an alternative thinking Cooper the better prospect.You wonder if the Sox would have let Boggs go if advanced metrics were more of a thing in 1992.
He had a .261 BABIP that year, which was 45 points lower than any other season in his career. Such a fluky bad year at the wrong time.
Whitlock!I find them all irritating because it has been mostly a one way street from the Red Sox to the Yankees. I’m guessing Yankees fans watching Cone, Wells, or Henderson on the Sox at the end of their careers wasn’t the same as a Boggs, Clemens, or Tiant.
That De La Rosa guy is doing pretty well too. This trade may take awhile to judge. People want instant gratification though.I am hoping that one day, we will think the trade was Beni for Winckowski. We'll see.
LOL. My 21 year old daughter texted me this morning from VT her lament that Beni was a Yankee. He was her first dreamy Red Sox crush, although she and Varitek share a birthday.I’m mad at my 15 year old Sox-loving daughter because she got COVID this week by being an irresponsible 15 year old. So right before she went to bed tonight when I was doing the dishes downstairs and she was brushing her teeth I said, “Want to hear something that will really ruin your night? Benintendi just got traded to the Yankees.”
She said “Are you freaking KIDDING me?”slammed the door and went to bed.
So, Beni …