53 Man Roster Thread: Ain't Done Yet
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They secured a LS and are either still trying to determine who to cut to make room for him on the 53 or looking around for a better option. Either way, Rob Ninkovich won't be snapping on Sunday.soxfan121 said:
100% correct. BB has secured an asset he is comfortable with as a LS on the PS so he's covered. Another shoe to drop here.RedOctober3829 said:
SeoulSoxFan said:
I might have gone with "because it was empty?" but yours works, too.
I won't be surprised if Hughlett is the snapper; I won't be surprised if someone else they sign later today or this week is the snapper. I will only be surprised - as RO says - if Ninkovich is the snapper.
Yeah. They know what they have in Aiken (he's fine, but can be improved). Hughlett gets a couple days practice this week. If he looks good, they cut someone from the 53-man and promote him. If he doesn't, they drop him from the PS and re-sign Aiken.soxfan121 said:
The Patriots have jettisoned a lot of age this offseason - Adrian Wilson, Gregory, Mankins, Will Smith, James Anderson, Hartsock, Collie, Andre Carter, Tommy Kelly, Sopoaga. But they seem to have fewer rookies than normal - they cut 3 of 9 draft picks, and Malcolm Butler is the only UDFA who made the initial 53 man (though Tyms is on it but suspended and the added Quarles and Gaston). Even the practice squad is rookie-light, with just 3 rookies among the 10 players on the squad.SeoulSoxFan said:
I too wonder about Julian returning punts, but other than that...
Revamping the pass defense with Revis, Browner and Collins seems bold and brilliant (and if you need Mankins'$13 M to retain Revis., so be it).
Bringing in Easely, Moore, and Quarles and playing around with more 3-4 to improve Chandler's angle is at least a very reasonable attempt to generate more pass rush.
The WR's are suddenly tall and deep.
JimmyG looks like a home run.
The O-line--who knows? It is in flux; Wendell probably starts. but on a short leash. Obviously tinkering is happening, with lots of parts to play with.
Inscrutable, but not exactly asleep at the switch.
Revamping the pass defense with Revis, Browner and Collins seems bold and brilliant (and if you need Mankins'$13 M to retain Revis., so be it).
Bringing in Easely, Moore, and Quarles and playing around with more 3-4 to improve Chandler's angle is at least a very reasonable attempt to generate more pass rush.
The WR's are suddenly tall and deep.
JimmyG looks like a home run.
The O-line--who knows? It is in flux; Wendell probably starts. but on a short leash. Obviously tinkering is happening, with lots of parts to play with.
Inscrutable, but not exactly asleep at the switch.
I don't understand why the Patriots wouldn't want to employ Julian Edelman as a punt returner, given he's arguably THE BEST ONE IN THE NFL. Are you suggesting we eschew that weapon in our arsenal and instead dedicate a roster spot to yet another specialist or is there someone else on the 53 you'd like to see in that role?
So now they have six safeties. Seems like a lot and that another shoe at that position could drop.mabrowndog said:
I know the whole "Deion Branch de-briefing motivated signing" thing is overstated but here's hoping that they learn something of use from Mr. Jones.
Oh, and I'm surprised no one focused on this thus far:
Even if our friend above had otherwise made sense -- which he didn't -- the gratuitous age based knock was pretty hilarious. I mean he's 62 dammit!
The Great Long Snapper Debate of 2014 has another twist. @rapsheet reports a possible Patriots option Kevin McDermott is signing with the Seattle PS.
Doug Kyed @DougKyedNESN · 4h
Can confirm Patriots cut Kelcy Quarles, Bruce Gaston from 53-man roster, Charley Hughlett from practice squad. 2 open spots on 53, 1 on ps.
https://twitter.com/DougKyedNESN/status/507294206524932098
Can confirm Patriots cut Kelcy Quarles, Bruce Gaston from 53-man roster, Charley Hughlett from practice squad. 2 open spots on 53, 1 on ps.
https://twitter.com/DougKyedNESN/status/507294206524932098
Any insights into the lightning rounds of musical chairs? I assume they come in at least partially known, and I'm hard pressed to figure how a practice or two would lead to shifts at this late date to warrant them gone. I'm referring mostly to the 53-man here not the PS. What gives?
Probably a mix of things. Some guys may come to practice and not work out. These two DL had to be put on the 53, probably less likely they get claimed today than earlier in the week and they can be stashed on the PS with financial incentives to stay. Health assessments can change during the week. I also think BB sometimes picks up guys in part for scout team characteristics, possible once they work on some things in practice the player become less useful.dcmissle said:
It must kill guys like BB to hold one precious roster spot for a LS who might get in 2-10 plays a game. I wonder why there isn't a trend to push special teamers (with a little bulk) to learn the LS skills in order to free up a spot. Christ, if DeOssies can do it...
As SF121 pointed out, we already discussed this, but 2-10 is low. The fewest snaps Aiken played last year in a game was 5, and he played as many as 15. All in all, he played in about 33% of the special teams snaps (178 / 545). He played exactly as much as Ryan Allen and just a little less than Gostkowski.doctormoist said:
I think consistently long snapping accurately is harder than your post makes it seem. The long snap comes at critical times, so those 2-10 plays are extremely crucial. BB always says that there are 3 phases to the game, and he values holders and snappers immensely(see Walter, Ken).doctormoist said:
In the doctor's defense, he's probably discounting XP attempts, even though missing those due to a bad snap would be painful.Super Nomario said:
Edit to add: Even discounting the XP it should probably be more like 10-15 plays.
You follow this team long enough and it's like watching the tide come in and out.SeoulSoxFan said:
Several folks reporting on Twitter that Aiken and Chris White are back. No alarms, no surprises.
The Pats' official roster shows 55 players including the suspended Tyms. And the remaining 54 jibe with my current count based on reported transactions. I see 25 on offense, 26 defense, and 3 specialists.
If I'm wrong, can someone let me know who's gone? If I'm right, (a) how the hell can they not be at 53? (b) someone else is getting the heave-ho.
2 QB - Brady, Garoppolo
5 RB - Bolden, Develin, Ridley, Vereen, James White
6 WR - Amendola, Dobson, Edelman, Lafell, Slater, Thompkins
3 TE - Gronk, Hooman, Wright
9 OL - Cannon, Connolly, Devey, Cameron Fleming, Kline, Solder, Stork, Vollmer, Wendell
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25
9 DL - Buchanan, Easley, Chandler Jones, Chris Jones, Moore, Ninkovich, Siliga, Vellano, Wilfork
5 LB - Collins, Darius Fleming, Hightower, Mayo, Chris White
6 CB - Arrington, Browner, Butler, Dennard, Revis, Ryan
6 S - Chung, Ebner, Harmon, Don Jones, McCourty, Wilson
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26
There's 51. Allen, Gostkowski & Aiken make 54.
And just to be sure I didn't duplicate anyone's name, the team has 2 Whites (Chris & James), 2 Flemings (Darius & Cameron), and 3 Jones (Don, Chandler & Chris).
If I'm wrong, can someone let me know who's gone? If I'm right, (a) how the hell can they not be at 53? (b) someone else is getting the heave-ho.
2 QB - Brady, Garoppolo
5 RB - Bolden, Develin, Ridley, Vereen, James White
6 WR - Amendola, Dobson, Edelman, Lafell, Slater, Thompkins
3 TE - Gronk, Hooman, Wright
9 OL - Cannon, Connolly, Devey, Cameron Fleming, Kline, Solder, Stork, Vollmer, Wendell
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25
9 DL - Buchanan, Easley, Chandler Jones, Chris Jones, Moore, Ninkovich, Siliga, Vellano, Wilfork
5 LB - Collins, Darius Fleming, Hightower, Mayo, Chris White
6 CB - Arrington, Browner, Butler, Dennard, Revis, Ryan
6 S - Chung, Ebner, Harmon, Don Jones, McCourty, Wilson
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26
There's 51. Allen, Gostkowski & Aiken make 54.
And just to be sure I didn't duplicate anyone's name, the team has 2 Whites (Chris & James), 2 Flemings (Darius & Cameron), and 3 Jones (Don, Chandler & Chris).
Pxer said:
That a terrific question that some PAID member of the media should, you know, earn their salary by answering.
Locker room access is wasted on gossips and jock-sniffers. Actual football questions - like, what do the shadow roster guys do - either don't get answered or don't have enough click-potential to be approved.
Which is too bad, because I'd like to know what The Highlander's life is like as a fringe practice squad/shadow roster guy.