2023 Ryder Cup - When in Rome...

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So listened to the NLU pod to put a bow on the hat thing. They are friends with Jamie Weir and have had him on the of multiple times. They were a little uneasy about Weir’s reporting. Essentially the confirmed, and apparently it’s no secret, that Cantlay has made a stink about not being paid both in the process and this week. It’s not really a secret, and probably ties into Cantlay’s views on the future of the PGA Tour where he’s not aligned with the majority of the other star players. This also may have contributed to the scene on 18 yesterday as Cantlay has opposing views as Rory and may not be Rory’s favorite person so losing to him in that fashion may have added to the frustration.

That said, the hat thing and fractured team is likely bullshit. The players do not get paid for the Presidents Cup either so hat vs no hat from Cantlay is likely just his thing, others on Europe do the same thing. It’s not a silent protest. Fractured team is also not entirely true, it’s not like half the team likes him and the other half hates.

That said Soly did say they have a source they trust who said Cantlay did miss a team meeting and the source “has more” that may be shared later.
 

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So listened to the NLU pod to put a bow on the hat thing. They are friends with Jamie Weir and have had him on the of multiple times. They were a little uneasy about Weir’s reporting. Essentially the confirmed, and apparently it’s no secret, that Cantlay has made a stink about not being paid both in the process and this week. It’s not really a secret, and probably ties into Cantlay’s views on the future of the PGA Tour where he’s not aligned with the majority of the other star players. This also may have contributed to the scene on 18 yesterday as Cantlay has opposing views as Rory and may not be Rory’s favorite person so losing to him in that fashion may have added to the frustration.

That said, the hat thing and fractured team is likely bullshit. The players do not get paid for the Presidents Cup either so hat vs no hat from Cantlay is likely just his thing, others on Europe do the same thing. It’s not a silent protest. Fractured team is also not entirely true, it’s not like half the team likes him and the other half hates.

That said Soly did say they have a source they trust who said Cantlay did miss a team meeting and the source “has more” that may be shared later.
Listened as well. Also pointed out that the Euros are always quick to be offended and many of the questions for ZJ at the press conference were about LaCavas “behavior” and if he would personally apologize.
 

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I don’t know how in 2023 they don’t even have streaming options for this. I’d pay like $20 for the week to do it. NBC is so fucking bad.

First hole fairways hit:


USA: 2-5
Europe: 5-5
 

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4 matches going on. The US is down on 2. Up in 1.

Schefty is just a mess on the greens. He just gave that hole away.
 

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The US needed to come out firing and putting red flags on the board and it's 3-1 blue.

The odds must be down to like 5% for the US at this point.
 

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IF the US started like Europe, they would maybe have a chance. Instead, we're basically getting killed and it is not 7am.

Just like on Friday morning and Saturday morning.
 

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So like is it just Jet lag? This is now 3 days in a row where the US just sucks in the morning and play even or ahead in the afternoon.

Maybe when they all took a month off, they should have done so in Cinque Terre.
 

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How can you guys tell? I’ve seen 3 golf shots in the past ten minutes. 5 is one of the more exciting holes out there and they didn’t show Rahm or Scotty’s tee shots.
 

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How can you guys tell? I’ve seen 3 golf shots in the past ten minutes. 5 is one of the more exciting holes out there and they didn’t show Rahm or Scotty’s tee shots.
Well, by looking at the scoreboard.

Maybe NBC isn't showing any shots because they are all lousy for the US?
 

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So like is it just Jet lag? This is now 3 days in a row where the US just sucks in the morning and play even or ahead in the afternoon.

Maybe when they all took a month off, they should have done so in Cinque Terre.
These guys are used to traveling. They’re just getting their asses kicked. Which is what has happened to the away team for like the past decade.
 

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Burns should literally concede this hole before even hitting his 3rd shot.

It is 28-3. But the United States doesn't have Tom Brady.
 

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These guys are used to traveling. They’re just getting their asses kicked. Which is what has happened to the away team for like the past decade.
6 to 9-hour time difference is different than 3 at most for most of the year.

Something has to explain why they can play in the afternoon.

Also how is everyone losing hole 1.
 

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6 to 9-hour time difference is different than 3 at most for most of the year.

Something has to explain why they can play in the afternoon.

Also how is everyone losing hole 1.
Also you just heard that the par 3s have been set at a specific distance to play to their strengths and it has worked

In 2 years Bethpage will be stretched out and there will be no rough and US will win by a million. It will continue until they change the process.
 

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They are up a point in afternoon sessions.
Different formats. Morning was foursomes., they are something like 4-20 in foursomes in the last 3 road Ryder Cups. For whatever reason they can’t figure out how to play foursomes in Europe. They’ve always been a little better in four ball which was the afternoon session the first 2 days.

They’ve also been bad on the front 9, particularly 1-4.
 

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Man alive, we lost another first hole. This is the old meme about the Germans and the line, "Are we the baddies?"

Am I the idiot for watching this?
 

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Some slight mo going. Scheffler takes the lead, Max gets it back to tied, Burns eagles 9 to cut into the lead.