With everyone wearing a navy shirt and white pants.I am down for an 8 way playoff.
I’m thinking only every fifth word would get past the censor.Hatton is the best. Need him mic’d up.
There's the miracle birdie on 17Who ever picks up a miracle birdie on 17 or birdies 18 probably wins
I feel like all that does is punish the KFT guys.My vote would be for 1 year suspension then make them qualify through Korn Ferry.
Agreed but it’s a one time punishment that’s really just a correction of the previous disruption that gave a disproportionate number of KFT guys the chance to get established. Plus a lot of the LIV guys are on the down swing and with the 1 year layoff it might be fun to watch them struggle against the up and comers.I feel like all that does is punish the KFT guys.
I say let them all go be Club Pros somewhere in Antarctica or something.
I’m with Zomp. The one thing I heard last night that I also agreed with is that those that trashed the tour on their way out should have to apologize to the staffers as a precondition. I think it was actually Horschel that suggested that.I may be in the minority but I'd like to see the Tour take the high road here. If it were me, I'd let the players back in if they are exempt. Say, for example, someone like Koepka, Cam Smith or DJ is exempt because of their world rankings or most recent tour win, then they should be allowed to play in what they are exempt for.
The other guys, the Pat Perez's or the Kevin Na's of the world, if they aren't exempt to play in anything then they have to go the Korn Ferry Tour route.
I guess what I'm saying is treat it like they just took a year off. Their clock was still ticking for exemptions, they just opted not to play.
As a fan of the tour but more importantly a fan of golf, the quality of play is better if those guys are playing. Plus imagine the drama if some of them do return? It would make for great viewing.
The KFT wasn’t really impacted by LIV. They didn’t hand out more cards than normal in 2022 to replace the LIV defectors. It was the standard 50.Agreed but it’s a one time punishment that’s really just a correction of the previous disruption that gave a disproportionate number of KFT guys the chance to get established. Plus a lot of the LIV guys are on the down swing and with the 1 year layoff it might be fun to watch them struggle against the up and comers.
Unless LIV stopped existing entirely, does anyone know how the contracts even work for these guys? Or are we only discussing this in a hypothetical scenario when LIV folds up shop?I'll be in the even smaller minority and I say fuck those guys forever. Yes, I'm vengeful, but you all made your bed.
This probably isn't even really feasible, but if I never see any of these guys in a PGA tour again, that would be great with me.
Not directly but when the LIV guys left there was a void filled by the low end PGA guys which meant those guys weren’t competing with the KFT guys in the KFT finals.The KFT wasn’t really impacted by LIV. They didn’t hand out more cards than normal in 2022 to replace the LIV defectors. It was the standard 50.
This is what I would do. Just apply the rules in place. If the LIV tour falls apart within a year it's basically a gift. And you'll get the 10 guys who matter back and the rest can go back to being journeymen or whatever washed players do in the few years before they can hit the senior circuit.I may be in the minority but I'd like to see the Tour take the high road here. If it were me, I'd let the players back in if they are exempt. Say, for example, someone like Koepka, Cam Smith or DJ is exempt because of their world rankings or most recent tour win, then they should be allowed to play in what they are exempt for.
The other guys, the Pat Perez's or the Kevin Na's of the world, if they aren't exempt to play in anything then they have to go the Korn Ferry Tour route.
I guess what I'm saying is treat it like they just took a year off. Their clock was still ticking for exemptions, they just opted not to play.
As a fan of the tour but more importantly a fan of golf, the quality of play is better if those guys are playing. Plus imagine the drama if some of them do return? It would make for great viewing.
I'm just a sports fan. More better players usually makes better sports. I agree with the high road. If it turns out that LIV starts leaking players, I think the marketplace of ideas will obviously know that LIV failed, and most of the returning players will have their collective tails between their legs. (The ones that were assholes before will likely continue to be). So no "punishment" is really needed.I may be in the minority but I'd like to see the Tour take the high road here. If it were me, I'd let the players back in if they are exempt. Say, for example, someone like Koepka, Cam Smith or DJ is exempt because of their world rankings or most recent tour win, then they should be allowed to play in what they are exempt for.
The other guys, the Pat Perez's or the Kevin Na's of the world, if they aren't exempt to play in anything then they have to go the Korn Ferry Tour route.
I guess what I'm saying is treat it like they just took a year off. Their clock was still ticking for exemptions, they just opted not to play.
As a fan of the tour but more importantly a fan of golf, the quality of play is better if those guys are playing. Plus imagine the drama if some of them do return? It would make for great viewing.
I would bet that overall, the animosity between players, especially top players, is much lower. These guys have been competing for possibly ~20 years. These are friends to many of them.I also agree with Zoom’s take on LIV players returning.
FWIW, Rahm said in recent interview that his opinion is the recent changes to the Tour don’t happen if LIV didn’t happen. I’m not sure If these changes will be good or bad overall, but to the extent the players are making decisions on LIV players being allowed back, perhaps there is not the same animosity as management.
Well that's for the LIV guys to figure out with LIV, and laregly why this conversation is hypothetical at this point. I'd imagine the Saudi's aren't going to just let these guys leave if they ask nicely. During one of the lawsuits I believe a judge called the LIV contracts some of the most restrictive they've ever seen.I have a question about the money they took. If they return, what happens to the money they took?
If you're an established player who turned down $50,000,000 from LIV and stuck with the tour, you don't want these guys to have gained any benefit from trying to tank the PGA Tour.
...then he makes a bogey at 13 and drives it into a bush on 14 and is taking an unplayable. The full Spieth experience in 5 holes.Spieth stars birdie-birdie and putts he thinks he missed are going in. Look out.
I think 3--Gordon, and then Hoge and Lowry who are both still under the cut line(good chance the line will move)Only two players broke 70 in the morning wave.
Ridiculous:Cantlay just putted it in the water.