Completely respect your opinion, you watch more tape in a weekend than I watch in a year but how does a 4.6 slot WR go for 1600 yds and average 17 YPC as a 19YO? Jakobi Meyers is a 4.6 slot receiver. If JSN busts he will be a huge outlier. Outside of AL there isn't a better WR program than TOSU these days and JSN was the most productive of what could be the best WR group of all time.
He really isn’t a traditional slot WR though. He can play outside and would be a guy you move around. His hands are actually not that elite, which is obviously problematic for anyone operating in the slot or mostly in the slot. I’m a BC grad who has watched a ton of Zay and think he has potential to be an impact player but I think there will be an adjustment period to NFL size/athleticism. Would love to see him go to a dome/warm weather team where his speed will play better. Also really curious to see where he tests at combine.
I mean, Antonio Gandy-Golden had a huge SO year like that (and a 4.6 40 time), so did Tylan Wallace (4.5 40time), Anthony Miller was a JR but similar, Rashard Higgins was a 4.6 slot guy who was a monster in college early.
I agree 100% college stats aren't very predictive but programs are. AGG went to Liberty which has produced... exactly. Sure you can get lucky and find a Cooper Kupp out of East Washington U or an Edeleman from Kent St. but I'll take my chances with a productive AL, OSU, LSU WR all day, any day. Just those 3 programs generated in no particular order: Waddle, Devontae Smith, Chris Olave, Garret Wilson, Justin Jefferson, Ja"Maar Chase, Jerry Jeudy, Jameson Williams, Terry McLaurin.
You could easily be right about Flowers. But there's this tension between players I like versus those who seem to fit into our system and thus are likely to be drafted by BB. Other teams have players like Zay Flowers, so why can't we? We can't because we'll be too busy drafting a CB and OT, and Flowers will be gone.
Yeah, I 100% want Zay on the Pats. He’s a great YAC guy and we don’t seem to have a lot of that on this team.
After reading your post the first thing that popped into my head was that BB won't be able to resist taking the big Notre Dame TE Mayer if he is still on the board at 14.
Well the staff will get a nice long look at him, he's on the West Roster for the Shire game, so they'll be coaching him:
Darnell Wright currently projected as a mid 2nd but I wonder if he gets some helium depending on how the combine goes.
I'd take Paris at 14, yes, if they want to go that direction.
That is...pretty impressive. Especially with Cole Strange being a poster child for the sub-forum name.
yeah, he was a Patriots' mid-west area scout in the mid 2000s, so he clearly has an idea what Bill looks for. Gonna keep an eye out for stuff from him this year as we get closer to the draft.
To be fair some of us had him as a fringe top 50 player last year
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Physically talented but not that productive and was thrown off his college team. Huge upside if he has a total attitude change.
I'm intrigued by Telfort as a late round pick as well. He was one of the Florida recruits who got booted over the credit card thing, kicked around Community college then went to UAB. Concerns about how he handles speed on the edge, but he's huge at 6'7"-6'8" with 37" arms and he slimmed down to 317 (also a captain which Bill loves).
You know if you drafted him and he turned out to be a Christian Kirk level player I think you'd have to be happy with the pick, wouldn't you? A number two or slot receiver who gets you the 800-1000 yards a season is a really valuable player--and probably has more market value than a very good ILB or Safety or IOL or running back.
With 14... no, because I think you could get an elite CB/S or a starting LT, both of whom I think are more valuable on the actual field than a solid WR.
If he's really shifty and quick, a gadget role is not a bad place to start with him. 165 is really skinny but DeVonta Smith is that skinny.
