2023 Bengals: Run it Back

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Carl Lawson is a bad comp. Think if Carl Lawson was a very good run defender too but coming out he is less polished as a pass rusher.
 

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Really Bengals Twitter didn’t like it? Man why the hell not lol? What isn’t to like about Murphy in the late 20s?! That’s crazy to me.
Joe Goodberry is the most visible Bengals/Draft guy and wasn't a huge fan. Gridiron Grading (who are Bengals fans) didn't like it a ton either. Both seem to be underwhelmed by the production - I thought 18.5 sacks/36 TFL in three years at a P5 school would grade out pretty well, but it seems to them there should've been more for a first-rounder. To be fair, a lot of guys liked it too. I'm fine with it - he was a pretty consensus mid-late first-rounder while Hendrickson and Hubbard are getting up there and played a ton of snaps the last two years.
 

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Joe Goodberry is the most visible Bengals/Draft guy and wasn't a huge fan. Gridiron Grading (who are Bengals fans) didn't like it a ton either. Both seem to be underwhelmed by the production - I thought 18.5 sacks/36 TFL in three years at a P5 school would grade out pretty well, but it seems to them there should've been more for a first-rounder. To be fair, a lot of guys liked it too. I'm fine with it - he was a pretty consensus mid-late first-rounder while Hendrickson and Hubbard are getting up there and played a ton of snaps the last two years.
Yeah that was my knock on him. He really never grew and produced as a pass-rusher. But he also has the traits to do so. Bengals develop their DL well so... he's a high floor pick to me and has a nice ceiling. Now it is true he might just be a quality starting edge who gives you 6-8 sacks a year but he could grow into something more.

You need to develop counters, secondary pass rush moves, etc. But his speed to power and that long-arm? Lordy lordy lord.
 

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Yeah that was my knock on him. He really never grew and produced as a pass-rusher. But he also has the traits to do so. Bengals develop their DL well so... he's a high floor pick to me and has a nice ceiling. Now it is true he might just be a quality starting edge who gives you 6-8 sacks a year but he could grow into something more.

You need to develop counters, secondary pass rush moves, etc. But his speed to power and that long-arm? Lordy lordy lord.
Yep. I'm fine with the whole package - their DL coach used to be at Clemson too (not with Murphy). As Toscano said, it creates some pretty exciting options in passing situations with Hendrickson and Murphy on the edges with some combo of Hubbard/Ossai/Cam Sample inside. While the production wasn't elite, it's worth a shot at that point with the age and athleticism at a premium position.
 

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It appears the Bengals have gone with the philosophy of pay your offense and draft your defense, as that now makes seven straight Day 1-2 picks on defense with the selections of Michigan CB DJ Turner and Alabama S Jordan Battle. Turner will compete for playing time this year and should be a starter in 2024 with Chidobe Awuzie turning 28 soon and coming off an ACL, while Battle could push newly signed Nick Scott who also turns 28 shortly. As Joe Goodberry notes, teams often ran 12 against the Bengals to keep Mike Hilton off the field and the Bills will be doing a lot more of that with Kincaid now. The response is to have safeties who can cover, and they have plenty of them now. It appears they've made speed in the secondary quite a priority as Dax Hill, Turner, Cam Taylor-Britt and Tycen Anderson all run sub-4.4, with Turner clocking in at 4.26. Battle was a bit of a curious pick from a need perspective, but they've put a big focus on leadership (the three captains at Alabama were Battle, Bryce Young and Will Anderson) and Lou Anarumo will find ways to use him as a movable piece. They also picked up a sixth from the Chiefs for moving down three spots in the third.

That should probably do it on defense as they'll definitely be drafting a RB today, most likely a TE and potentially a WR (they don't have a ton of depth there, Higgins is currently unsigned beyond this year and Boyd is most likely gone) and OL. I could also see them taking a QB late (Dorian Thompson-Robinson?), as they've made it pretty clear they'd like to upgrade the backup spot. They need competition at punter too, as Drue Chrisman's lack of hangtime killed them at the most inopportune time in the AFCCG.
 
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As expected, Day 3 was an offense day. Fourth-rounder Charlie Jones is already 24, but he's athletic and was incredibly productive at Purdue last year while giving them depth everywhere at receiver along with potentially being the punt returner. He naturally slots in as Boyd's replacement next year. Fifth-round RB Chase Brown will almost certainly start next year, although he lacks the pass-catching skills currently to complement Mixon (who will still be on the team) this year. Sixth-round WR Andrei Iosivas is a total freak (9.96 RAS) - he'll probably redshirt this year coming from Princeton but has a ton of upside. They used the extra sixth they acquired from the Chiefs to take a punter in Brad Robbins (oh, the irony), a hangtime specialist who should win the job pretty easily. Seventh-round CB DJ Ivey seems like he'll max out on special teams. @SMU_Sox - what are your thoughts on the Day 2-3 guys?
 
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The Bengals have agreed to terms with Trevor Siemian. They made no secret in their desire to upgrade from Brandon Allen (who signed with the Niners today), never making an effort to bring him back while nearly signing Cooper Rush when free agency started. They won't win much without Burrow, but Siemian should at least be able to keep them afloat if God forbid something happens.