2023-24 Yankees Offseason Discussion

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I wanted NY to go after Ryan Pepiot last winter, but he seems too valuable to be involved in this kind of deal.
 

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I'm guessing one of the two is Bryan Hudson or Victor Gonzalez, NY really could use more lefty relief depth.
 

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NY needs pitchers, not position players, and the Dodgers have a ton on their 40 man even before Ohtani/Kelly.
 

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Fangraphs has Pepiot slotted in as LA’s #3 starter currently, not gonna be him.
 

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I’m guessing Jorbit Vivas and Bryan Hudson in exchange for a lower level infielder, maybe Jared Serna.
 

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I think it’ll still happen, just need to check physicals, contact players, etc. Actually the longer it takes, the more my hopes go up that it might be someone bigger like Busch involved.
 

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It’s only 9 PM on the West Coast, also Cashman and others are meeting Yamamoto in LA tomorrow so that plane ride could have slowed this down some.
 

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Vivas is a year younger than Sweeney and a notch more advanced, Sweeney will need to be added to the 40 man after the 2024 season.
 

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BTV has Vivas at 8.9 and Sweeney at 3.8 (Gonzalez at just 0.8 but he is a lefty reliever which NY is very thin on currently).
 

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Gonzalez has an option left, which is helpful. Vivas was placed on the 40 man long enough ago that he only has one option year remaining, that's not ideal.
 

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Gonzalez is a Wandy replacement, lots of similarites there as best I can tell.
 

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Gonzalez is 4 1/2 years younger than Wandy, controlled through 2026 cheaply.
 

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NY's current bullpen is something like this:

Marinaccio
Ramirez
Effross
Gonzalez
Hamilton
Kahnle
Loaisiga
Holmes

Probably still more coming there, also none of those guys are long guys but the top five all have options still.
 

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I like them being involved in trades like this. Other team has a burning structural need to make a small change - help them out and get a minor upgrade in the process. Just feels like the right mindset to jump in there.
 

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I like them being involved in trades like this. Other team has a burning structural need to make a small change - help them out and get a minor upgrade in the process. Just feels like the right mindset to jump in there.
They're still at just 37 on the 40 man, Cashman has done a very nice job the last year or so of rolling over from the previous roster.
 

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I like it too, especially when it comes to adding relief pitching. I have confidence that they know what they're looking for and are good at adding useful arms. With the way injuries seem to pile up, they can never have enough useful arms.
 

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Which is funny, because they just re-signed him to a minor league deal maybe a week ago.
 

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I'm hopeful, but if true, I don't take it as a good sign when an offer gets leaked like that.

Guess I worry that it is a "we tried" message to the fans.
 

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Eh, those usually come out after a player signs somewhere else, not before.
 

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Ken Rosenthal on NY’s plans if they don’t get Yamamoto:

“The Yankees, according to major-league sources briefed on their thinking, will be far more aggressive.

A rotation without Yamamoto would require at least one more starter, and the Yankees, at least internally, have discussed a reunion with free-agent lefty Jordan Montgomery. The team also could seek to build what one source described as a “super-charged” bullpen. The three top relievers listed by The Athletic’s Tim Britton and Aaron Gleeman in their top 40 free agents — Josh Hader (No. 10), Jordan Hicks (No. 23) and Robert Stephenson (No. 29) remain unsigned.

Even if the Yankees sign Yamamoto, they almost certainly will stay in the market for more pitching, seeking affordable options. Their starters outside of Gerrit Cole last season went a combined 32-46 with a 5.06 ERA.”
 

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This ship has probably sailed but Matt Carpenter has been released after being traded to ATL as a salary dump. Since he's already being paid nicely for 2024, maybe he'd be into a minor league deal with NYY? They don't have an obvious roster spot for him but you never know who might get hurt in spring training, just a thought after his magical 2022 for NY.
 

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I'm convinced whoever that is that runs RAB these days lurks (or posts) here. They made a joke this morning about how if Yamamoto doesn't sign with the Yankees, he's blaming the rain today.
 

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The Yamamoto rumors are all fairly frustrating because the majority of them are from familiar names like Morosi or Martino but none of them even hint at being sourced rumors so it's a lot of "Yamamoto has been eyeing the Yankees for years." I think if any Yankees fan is fooling them into thinking we are the likely targets based on that level of information, they're in for a rude awakening.

That said, there are many reasons NYY makes sense for him. I can't for the life of me understand why NYM would make sense for him unless they blow the doors off anyone else's offer and the Mets are probably the only team capable of doing that.
 

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Ummm, yeah, that would be in reference to Matty the Mustache but quote feature didn't take. There's magic in them there whiskers
 

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Yankees apparently expressing some interest in Jorge Soler.

Not sure how or where he would play, but I don’t hate him and his .853 OPS.
Yeah, I don't buy that, unless somehow they are trading Stanton, which I think is impossible (plus he has a no-trade clause).

Soler has crazy career WAR numbers, just 5.9 total bWAR because he has a -10.2 dWAR!!!! He has 170 career HRs in essentially six full seasons of ABs (over a 10 year span), but still hasn't been much better than replacement player level. I'm not even sure I would want him as a fulltime DH given his splits last year (.788 OPS against RHP, 1.080 against LHP).

In short, no thank you.
 

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I would guess Soler is the preferred choice if Cashman can either salary dump Stanton or ends up releasing him, either of which feels like a necessary move at this point. There's not much other right-handed DH power available other than Mitch Garver.
 

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I'd rather see if Stanton can bounce back (and stay healthy) than invest in a new right-handed bat that can't field.

I just can't bring myself to worry about a potential lack of right-handed hitting on this team.
 

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If they somehow jettison Stanton, then I'd rather just use the DH slot to rotate DJLM, Rizzo, etc. than sign someone to just slot into that position.