2023-2024 General NBA Season Thread
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Wos on the Ringer's postgame podcast last night said that he thinks the Busses don't really have the money to overpay a coach, otherwise Ty Lue would be the Lakers' coach. I think the Busses are like Mark Davis/the Raiders - their only family asset is the team, so they don't have the same pool of money to dip into as the Ballmers/Lacob types; the money actually matters to them.
I don't know enough about how costs can be amortized by sports teams or the Lakers ' finances to know whether he has a point.
Lebron and his family wanting to live in LA has spared Jeanie Buss from being in the worst owner conversations.
This. The Lakers look pathetic for not landing their guy. And they'll be on their 8th coach since 2010.
The Lakers situation is one of the worst in the NBA. They aren't even be close to being a contender, they have zero assets of any kind and they are a franchise being held hostage by Lebron James. Its a team that really should blow the entire thing up because they are going to be stuck in mud for a long time.
They have the goodwill of a top-2 loyal fanbase, arguably 1, and of playing in LA. Those are 2 valuable "assets"
That really is amazing when you think about it. 8 coaches ago for the Celtics almost gets you to KC Jones. And the Lakers did it in 14 years.
One theory might be that the fan base can't whine about bringing in Redick if they very publicly tried to sign the "best coach available" and were rebuffed.
LeBron holding them hostage isn't top 5 worst issues.
They have a terrible owner. That's the biggest issue, roster issues are 2-3 year problems, bumbling incompetence in ownership can last decades
No chance. There are probably 15 franchises that are in worse shape than LA. They have AD, they have Lebron, they have Reaves, they have 3 picks to trade, and they have the fact that they are LA.
Bingo. Lakers nation is beyond fed up with the lakers management. Going after hurley was seen as a real serious grown up move. Now they have cover to hire a podcaster.
Yup, the future picks have mostly reset, and they're more valuable because the Lakers aren't that well-run.
They can go star-hunting this summer, and land someone quite good.
From worst to not-as-bad:
Brooklyn
Washington
Detroit
Charlotte
Phoenix
Chicago
Atlanta
Toronto
Utah
Sacramento
Memphis
Portland
After that, you start to get into Lakers range.
I wonder if Hurleys equation was an aging Lakers team controlled by whims of LBJ 3000 miles from his home base fell far short of a legit shot at a 3peat in Storrs + a seat among college legends + a possible NBA coaching gig of his choice in NYC, if Dolan tires of Thibs or he chooses to cross the bridge to Barclay and explore the charms of Brooklyn Heights. It ain't Jersey but it's close.
Wow, that is pathetic. Worry about hiring the right coach, not about your fanbase's perceptions.
I hope Reddick turns them down. It's a bad situation - though I agree with Moops that it is nowhere near the worst - one that is challenging to navigate for any coach, let alone a first-time coach.
The $70 million really is shocking. The numbers being bruited about were plus $100 million. I wonder if that was leaked by Hurley's camp to lay out what the expectation was? Who knows, but it is of piece with the incompetence of the Buss family. Not as bad as the Ty Lue fiasco, but....similarly penny-wise/pound foolish. You want Hurley: go out and get him.
I just hate billionaires who whine about being poor.
He won't but if I were him I'd be pretty pissed with how this was handled. Should at least gives him some pause about saying yes to the job.
The funniest part is the bitching and moaning of Laker fans. Funnier still the ones consoling themselves because the Lakers have “18 titles”. Their salary tears are very nourishing.
Yeah, there’re are a few of them that consider the in season tournament the equivalent of an NBA title.
Wouldn't be so much about ego as some level of concern over how the organization will be run. They just fired a guy who (by all accounts) was a great prospect in Ham after one year, now botched this with the Woj leak...maybe they'll say all the right things to JJ, but it's not the best look.
It's a mistake to think of the Lakers as a unified entity. Think Game of Thrones, palace intrigue etc. The source of the Hurley leak is likely an opposing faction to the JJ stories (Klutch, Lebron...).
The Minnesota titles are a stretch. It feels like the Lakers didn't start counting those until last decade.
Huge stretch. There isn’t a Sonics flag flying in OKC.The Minnesota titles are a stretch. It feels like the Lakers didn't start counting those until last decade.
He may want to renegotiate but he did sign a 6 year, $31 mil extension in June 2023.
Hurley has to have been negotiating with UConn during this process. There is no world in 2024 where he wasn’t and doesn’t already have the parameters for a new deal in place. I fully expect a new deal to be announced in the coming days/weeks.
Living in Los Angeles for the last 14 years, I make this argument alllllll the time. Lakers fans really hate it because they usually have no retort except to say most of Boston's championships came before the moon landing.The Minnesota titles are a stretch. It feels like the Lakers didn't start counting those until last decade.
The logo was one of the game's greatest. On and off court.
Sad but weird he passed when the Celts were on the cusp of #18. He probably didn't want to see one more.
RIP 44
Sad but weird he passed when the Celts were on the cusp of #18. He probably didn't want to see one more.
RIP 44
4) Died a Clipper.
But seriously. Rip, true legend. Incredibly cheap of the lakers not to have him in a consultant role the last decade so he can be part of their family.
Yeah, and kind of sad that the last two times he was in the news was the JJ Redick plumbers and fireman comment as well as the grossly cartoonish version of him portrayed in Winning Time. A guy who gave that much to the game as a player and GM deserves much better. Hopefully he's long remembered for being a genius on and off the court.
His finals numbers are still insane to this day.
The only positive from his passing is it will bring back into the headlines his exit with the lakers and how shitty they were to him.
Great player. Great Exec.
Nearly ruined my childhood:
View: https://youtu.be/fzWGnA4Ll-0?si=CWytucdwseCfNDYI
Nearly ruined my childhood:
View: https://youtu.be/fzWGnA4Ll-0?si=CWytucdwseCfNDYI
My Dad was born in WV and worshipped Jerry West. Whenever the Lakers were in town he would get tickets to see The Logo.
Say hi to my pops for me, Jerry!
People in the media have been debating about who the Finals MVP might be, which got me thinking to 2008 when the beloved David Stern said, “It is the Truth: the MVP of the 2008 Finals is Paul Pierce.” And that got me to wondering, where have all of the good nicknames gone? I look at this year’s All-NBA class, and other than the Joker, we have creative nicknames like “SGA” or “KD”. “Ant” is fine, but why aren’t there good nicknames for more stars?
Thanks, Spida is a good one, and so is Time Lord. Beard and Brow are not super-creative, but they do fit what I was asking for. Still feels like there were more in previous generations of players?
1000% and on cue, Plaschke loves banging the Lakers. Here for it.
Laker legend Jerry West’s final legacy sadly includes estrangement from Lakers
After watching these Finals Sam Presti should be offering everything not nailed down to get Lauri Markkanen (as long as his agent back channels extension #s)
SGW, JDub, Dort, Chet with Markkanen will spread the MAVs, NUGGETs & WOLVEs.
Then they can bring Joe, Wallace, Wiggins, JWill, and Kenrich off their bench
SGW, JDub, Dort, Chet with Markkanen will spread the MAVs, NUGGETs & WOLVEs.
Then they can bring Joe, Wallace, Wiggins, JWill, and Kenrich off their bench