2022 Steelers: Watt to Expect

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A bizarre win on the road over the Bengals today, but at what cost? TJ Watt left with a pec injury, Najee Harris left with a foot injury, and Cam Heyward left the field in pain.

Watt and Harris looked to have injuries that will impact the team for at least a few weeks.

The defense played terrifically well, which compensated for an offense that seemingly could not really get things going.
 

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I didn't really have much in the way of expectations this season anyway so if Watt is out and they drop to 2-6 it will at least hasten the process of getting Pickett in there and acclimated to the NFL.

And if they lose enough maybe this time they can actually find a stud OT for once.
 
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Harris has an “ankle” and appears okay for this weekend…

Edit: one report said (new) ankle issue, a separate report indicated that he aggravated a pre-season Lisfranc sprain.
 
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I guess it's 6 weeks for a pec major muscle tear but he doesn't need the tendon fixed. A bit surprised as it's less common to tear there, usually the tendon tears either at the humerus or pretty close to it (myotendinous junction) and they need to fix it.

It's not always straight forward to interpret on MRI, but I'm sure they have the best in the business looking at it.

https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/full/10.1148/rg.2017160070

(figure 14 shows the different scenarios well)
 

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Bro logic always held that pec/biceps tears were giveaway steroid injuries. Is that actually true?
 

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Bro logic always held that pec/biceps tears were giveaway steroid injuries. Is that actually true?
Happened to JJ and it happened to TJ and they are brothers who are stronger than everyone and happen to be complete game wreckers when healthy.

So yes. They have figured out the magic formula for the juice. Then again, I would submit 99% of NFL players have figured this magic formula out, (the 1% are the ones who get caught) so this isn't an indictment on the Watt bros.
 

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Bro logic always held that pec/biceps tears were giveaway steroid injuries. Is that actually true?
Certainly can happen in that setting… the muscle bulks up to an unnatural level but the tendon doesn’t change its capabilities and it ruptures.

These tears happen in people not on steroids too of course, so hard to say in any individual situation that was the cause without the full story.
 

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Happened to JJ and it happened to TJ and they are brothers who are stronger than everyone and happen to be complete game wreckers when healthy.

So yes. They have figured out the magic formula for the juice. Then again, I would submit 99% of NFL players have figured this magic formula out, (the 1% are the ones who get caught) so this isn't an indictment on the Watt bros.
Oh I’m a charter member of the “they’re all on steroids club,” I was just trying to remember the logic @radsoxfan laid out about the muscle outgrowing the tendon.
 

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At times these guys hurt themselves in the weightroom.
In the late 90s I was able to listen to this 'virtual, coaching clinic' where Shanahan said a key to finally getting Elway a ring was reducing the weightroom injuries of older players, and that his trainers tried to ban guys over 34 from going below 5 reps, etc. He said often these linemen had their identities wrapped up in their workouts and they had traded guys who they thought were high risks of nagging weightroom injuries. Even in audio only you could sense the wink when he said, NFL power guys have 'other factors' that make them risks of muscle tears, tendon injuries as they age.
 

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Its so funny you say this. I literally had this saved in my reply box from a message I started typing yesterday:

Bro logic always held that pec/biceps tears were giveaway steroid injuries. Is that actually true?
Yeah, Ive always heard the same thing. When guys like Ted Johnson are rupturing
I just wasn't sure if rupturing a tendon is akin to tearing a bicep/pec. Was going to do some research, and then realized I didn't care enough about the topic to do so.
 

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Sigh beat a good team and then don't show up against a shitty team. Seen this movie 100 times.
 
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The offense felt rather one-dimensional with so much reliance on Najee, especially the final drives.
Besides being an upgrade to Mitch, I want Pickett to play because I'm tired of this middling offense that Canada seems to avoid criticism for. If they can't move the ball with their top draft pick, they will seriously reevaluate Canada this offseason.
 

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Besides being an upgrade to Mitch, I want Pickett to play because I'm tired of this middling offense that Canada seems to avoid criticism for. If they can't move the ball with their top draft pick, they will seriously reevaluate Canada this offseason.
100 % agree...They have dynamic receivers and a quality TE, yet they keep relying on a suspect O line to open holes for Najee.
 

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Trubisky is terrible, they need to pull the plug. He wasn't even using his legs much yesterday, he doesn't see the field, he's slow making decisions and he's inaccurate.
 

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Trubisky is terrible, they need to pull the plug. He wasn't even using his legs much yesterday, he doesn't see the field, he's slow making decisions and he's inaccurate.
He's a dual threat QB, but the threat is at his own offense. His inaccuracy is remarkable. He consistently puts the ball exactly where he shouldn't.
 

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Tomlin's 15 winning seasons streak appears to be in real peril. Oof, the Steelers looked bad on both sides of the ball again last night.
No Watt makes this team so much worse, it's actually incredible how much of a difference maker he is. So team is woeful without him because the offense has nothing. Really horrendous QB, (or a rookie who will certainly be green) a bad (injured?) RB, solid receivers but that doesn't matter if the QB is useless.

That streak is definitely in doubt. Tomlin usually figures it out. But no Watt and that offense puts him in a deep hole.