2022 MLB Draft

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Interesting that through 15 rounds, the Sox have taken almost exclusively HS position players and college pitchers with the one exception being their 4th round pick.
 

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And college pitching continues:
16: Southern Miss RHP Garrett Ramsey
 

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I know that rankings are just a (very) general guidepost beyond the top 15-20 players, but the 13th round HS SS (Kilen) had a rank of 100 on mlb.com. Sox taking a flier with a low probability of signing?
 

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I know that rankings are just a (very) general guidepost beyond the top 15-20 players, but the 13th round HS SS (Kilen) had a rank of 100 on mlb.com. Sox taking a flier with a low probability of signing?
Yep. If somehow they can save enough money to convince him. But doubtful.
 

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18: Santa Rosa JC RHP Austin Ehrlicher
19: Oklahoma RHP Jaret Godman
20: Biola University LHP Connor Butler
 

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I’ll kick this off by saying what I’m thinking out loud. I’m not sure if/how Boston will afford some of these prep talents, but if they pull it off, bravo. Mikey Romero was one of my favorite prospects in this draft class in terms of on-field ability and off-field makeup. A fantastic under-slot in round one. Couple that pick with Cutter Coffey, a prep shortstop I was higher on than most, and we’re off and cooking. Coffey has better feet and actions around the ball than I believe most give him credit for. The industry agrees, however, the bat is going to play. The Red Sox were able to continue diving into the prep shortstop pool as the days went on selecting Travis Sanders and Gavin Kilen in later rounds. We’ll see if all four are attainable. Elsewhere on the bluechip market, outfielder Roman Anthony and catcher Brooks Brannon are both offense-first preps with big power and a feel for hit. All of these could conceivably blossom into Top 100 prospects over time. On the college level, I love Dalton Rogers. That’s a highly decorated lefty with a whippy arm and undervalued stuff. He’s a big leaguer. Noah Dean, Alex Hoppe and Jonathan Brand all have appealing data and a carrying pitch that, if developed well, make for Role 4 types on a big league roster. Chase Meidroth hits absolutely everything, and while he doesn’t slug and is fringy at second base, he’s got a super-utility, Quad-A hit-only floor. A budget Adam Frazier. Hayden Mullins can be an explosive reliever with a good slider if Boston can get him in the strike zone. There may not be another class in this draft with the upside the Red Sox were able to acquire.
https://www.prospectslive.com/prospects-live/2022/7/19/6-standout-draft-classes
 

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A little bit scary that all six draft classes he likes are AL teams.
 

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Yep. If somehow they can save enough money to convince him. But doubtful.
I think he's Brooks Brannon insurance. They have extra money to spend from some underslot picks early and if BB says no they spend it on Kilen.
 

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Didn't Brannon's dad say something about wanting to end up in Boston?

This is looking to be a really good draft, at least on paper.
 

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The kid drafted in the 20th round, Connor Butler, had the following stats in college last season: 22 IP, 5 hits allowed, 32 BB and 47 Ks. And 2 of the 5 hits he allowed were in the same game.
 

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Didn't Brannon's dad say something about wanting to end up in Boston?

This is looking to be a really good draft, at least on paper.
yeah I really like the strategy. I would guess they had a 1st round grade on Mikey Romero and knew they could sign him for less. And I'd guess they also had close to a 1st round grade on Roman Anthony so with the money saved were essentially able to turn pick 24 into two 1st rounders. Kinda like the MLB version of trading down in the draft.

And they managed to do it again (I think with underslot picks in rounds 3-4) to save money for Brannon--essentially giving them an extra 2nd/3rd round pick.
 

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The kid drafted in the 20th round, Connor Butler, had the following stats in college last season: 22 IP, 5 hits allowed, 32 BB and 47 Ks. And 2 of the 5 hits he allowed were in the same game.
I had to check to make sure that 32 BB wasn't a typo, and it's not. A 4.5 ERA with 11 earned runs off 5 hits sure is something.
 

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"succeeded in not signing."
Yeah, If I remember right, he was demanding 5 million+. He was the 5th ranked prospect on BA and only fell to the 7th round for his contract demands. Of course, the draft was different back then. He ended up signing for $500k in 2005.

I think Boras ended up costing him quite a lot of money because the Sox were definitely trying. I can't remember how much the offer was but it was substantial. . He was a huge bust.
 

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yeah I really like the strategy. I would guess they had a 1st round grade on Mikey Romero and knew they could sign him for less. And I'd guess they also had close to a 1st round grade on Roman Anthony so with the money saved were essentially able to turn pick 24 into two 1st rounders. Kinda like the MLB version of trading down in the draft.

And they managed to do it again (I think with underslot picks in rounds 3-4) to save money for Brannon--essentially giving them an extra 2nd/3rd round pick.
The really underslot picks in this strategy kind of don't matter, but you can see the thought process for sure in taking college relievers. Basically you are still trying to capture some MLB upside with those picks even as you save money. It's a position that is inherently less valued since a guy who can't hack it as a reliever has nowhere else to go, but after the first couple rounds basically any hit is a big win.
 

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Yeah, If I remember right, he was demanding 5 million+. He was the 5th ranked prospect on BA and only fell to the 7th round for his contract demands. Of course, the draft was different back then. He ended up signing for $500k in 2005.

I think Boras ended up costing him quite a lot of money because the Sox were definitely trying. I can't remember how much the offer was but it was substantial. . He was a huge bust.
Consider Neighborgall's college stats: https://www.thebaseballcube.com/content/player/42094/

It's all there. Neighborgall always gave up plenty of hits to go along with the walks. And the wild pitches!

They're smiliar, but at least Butler seems to completely miss bats (SSS). https://www.thebaseballcube.com/content/player/218374/
 

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The really underslot picks in this strategy kind of don't matter, but you can see the thought process for sure in taking college relievers. Basically you are still trying to capture some MLB upside with those picks even as you save money. It's a position that is inherently less valued since a guy who can't hack it as a reliever has nowhere else to go, but after the first couple rounds basically any hit is a big win.
Yeah that makes sense. And in this case I think they said they’re going to try both as starters—so maybe trying to capture a market inefficiency of a guy undervalued because previous team didn’t end up starting him
 

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Is there a place to see all of the picks and their signed/not-signed and how much status? I know we've had that in this thread in previous years. I'm on mobile at work so I can't compile it right away but if it's still not there when I get home from work I'll make it.
 

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I had to check to make sure that 32 BB wasn't a typo, and it's not. A 4.5 ERA with 11 earned runs off 5 hits sure is something.
Nolan Ryan 19 yo in minors:
202ip, 2.35ERA, 118h, 139bb, 307K

That’s sort of the same general idea. Probably the same way that Phillips Valdéz is the same general idea as Pedro.
 

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There is no max for UDFA bonuses but anything over $125k counts against the bonus pool.”
 
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There is no max for UDFA bonuses but anything over $125k counts against the bonus pool.”
Was there a reason he wasn't drafted? Did the commitment completely scare off teams?

If he went at 214, he'd have been slotted at $217k, so it's not that big a difference. I wonder if he just really wanted the Red Sox? Interesting is right.
 

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His 2007 stats in A ball are nuts:

Yakima: 5.2 IP, 5 H, 25 walks
South Bend: 1 IP, 3 H, 12 walks (12 walks in 1 inning spread over 5 games)
Combined: 6.2 IP, 8 H, walks

Former #1 overall pick by the Yankees, Brien Taylor, after his arm injury - https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=taylor002bri

1995 - 40 Innings, 54 BB, 16 Wild Pitches, 6.08 ERA
1996 - 16.1 Innings, 43 BB, 17 Wild Pitches, 18.73 ERA
1997 - 27 Innings, 52 BB, 13 Wild Pitches, 14.33 ERA
 

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Former #1 overall pick by the Yankees, Brien Taylor, after his arm injury - https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=taylor002bri

1995 - 40 Innings, 54 BB, 16 Wild Pitches, 6.08 ERA
1996 - 16.1 Innings, 43 BB, 17 Wild Pitches, 18.73 ERA
1997 - 27 Innings, 52 BB, 13 Wild Pitches, 14.33 ERA
Yep, I remember that guy. The thing with Neighborgall is that he NEVER put up good numbers. Ever. He walked 113 in 101 college innings.

Seems he's done okay for himself--he's a Financial Advisor with Merrill Lynch.
 

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Yep, I remember that guy. The thing with Neighborgall is that he NEVER put up good numbers. Ever. He walked 113 in 101 college innings.

Seems he's done okay for himself--he's a Financial Advisor with Merrill Lynch.
Taylor or Neighborhall works for Merrill Lynch?
 

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Neighborgall.
Ah, good for him. I went to a Cape League game years ago when he was one of the teams and he came around the stands selling raffle tickets. He seemed very personable.
 

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Any chance we can have another thread to discuss Neighborgall or failed draft picks in general? I keep thinking there is going to be additional signing news whenever this thread is replied to.
 

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“Dropping the Ball: Trey and Other Draft Whiffs”

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FanGraphs has added our draft picks to the farm rankings.

They have Romero ranked #10 in our system (45 FV), Coffey and Anthony #31-32, Rogers and Meidroth #44-45, Dean #50 and Hoppe #55 (all 35+ FV).

Other 2022 draftees in their top 100: Arizona's Druw Jones (#11), Baltimore's Jackson Holliday (#18, one slot above Mayer), Minnesota's Brooks Lee (#25), Pittsburgh's Termarr Johnson (#26), LAA's Zack Neto (#60), NYM's Kevin Parada (#84) and San Diego's Dylan Lesko (#86).
 

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FanGraphs has added our draft picks to the farm rankings.

They have Romero ranked #10 in our system (45 FV), Coffey and Anthony #31-32, Rogers and Meidroth #44-45, Dean #50 and Hoppe #55 (all 35+ FV).

Other 2022 draftees in their top 100: Arizona's Druw Jones (#11), Baltimore's Jackson Holliday (#18, one slot above Mayer), Minnesota's Brooks Lee (#25), Pittsburgh's Termarr Johnson (#26), LAA's Zack Neto (#60), NYM's Kevin Parada (#84) and San Diego's Dylan Lesko (#86).
Weird that Brannon isn't listed in the top 60. I would think he'd be between Anthony and Rogers.
 

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Weird that Brannon isn't listed in the top 60. I would think he'd be between Anthony and Rogers.
Eric Longenhagen wrote separately about Brannon.

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2022-mlb-draft-roundup/
North Carolina high school catcher Brooks Brannon’s (9) swing isn’t sexy but he moves the barrel around. He has strong breaking ball recognition and strength-driven power, and must prove he can actually catch.
If there is still room for the likes of Durbin Feltman among the 35+, I expect that Brannon will be added to Fangraphs’ Board before long.