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Sanu had a great game at Baltimore, got hurt, and hasn't been the same in the 2 games post-injury. Progress of 3 of Brady's more important targets have all been hampered by ankle problems(Harry, LaCosse in preseason and Sanu now).
 

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I haven't charted the game, but it looked like he got a lot more reps at X than he had in previous weeks, and he wasn't any more effective than Dorsett.

The offense has five WR and I would argue all of them should be slot receivers and not outside guys. They don't need an AJ Green but a 2014 Brandon LaFell would be huge.
Didn't they draft a big WR in the first round?
 

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But as it stands, we're 4 1/2 games in and he has 135 yards. He's going to finish this season with maybe 600 yards combined between two teams.
The chicken or the egg?

In the last 4 games, Brady has only cracked 220 yards one time. There just aren't many yards to go around these days. He hasn't had a single game with a QB rating over 100 in more than 2 months. The last time Brady had a QB rating this low was 2003.

Is it the WR? Is it the QB? Is it the OL?
 

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The team is lacking in WR talent, but Harry only saw two snaps yesterday, and on one scored a terrific touchdown...for this pathetic offense, Josh needs to find a way to get him on the field.
 

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Didn't they draft a big WR in the first round?
I know Harry had that terrible play last week, but that should've-been-TD against KC was exactly what everyone had been hoping for from him this year: a tough, physical play, running over people on his way to the end zone. I know it's cold comfort but there is more talent on this offense than people realize -- it's just that injuries have really accentuated the OL problems. If Harry, Dorsett and Sanu (all of whom are hurt) can get separation, this is a different offense. Which makes me wonder whether some of the low snap counts means Bill and Josh are holding guys like Sanu and Harry back a bit in anticipation of the playoffs.
 

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The team is lacking in WR talent, but Harry only saw two snaps yesterday, and on one scored a terrific touchdown...for this pathetic offense, Josh needs to find a way to get him on the field.
I know Harry had that terrible play last week, but that should've-been-TD against KC was exactly what everyone had been hoping for from him this year: a tough, physical play, running over people on his way to the end zone. I know it's cold comfort but there is more talent on this offense than people realize -- it's just that injuries have really accentuated the OL problems. If Harry, Dorsett and Sanu (all of whom are hurt) can get separation, this is a different offense. Which makes me wonder whether some of the low snap counts means Bill and Josh are holding guys like Sanu and Harry back a bit in anticipation of the playoffs.
My guess is that Harry is really struggling with the offense and the sight adjustments necessary at the WR position, which is very important if a defense is going to be blitzing constantly and so everything is going to be about changing and breaking off routes correctly to give TB 12 a chance.

The play he made last night was a misdirection in which he lined up in the backfield. The TD he scored the other week was a designed back shoulder in which he probably didn't have any other route options. They seem to be only comfortable putting him on the field in situations in which he has one simple route or responsibility to think about and execute.

This team stinks on offense. They're not holding anything back, they just don't have anything.
 

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Then they need to find ways to utilize Harry. Simplify the offense if necessary. Even if he can only run, say, five patterns, then use him for that. This is what good coaches do - they make the best use of the talent they have available. Yes, it appears that they simply cannot do everything they want to do on offense. That much is obvious. So ok, figure out something ELSE. Harry clearly has *talent*. How to make the best use of it? What does he do best? It seems like he's really good at: (1) fighting for contested passes (despite the pick last week by Houston), and (2) running after the catch.

So simplify things so you get more out of those two things. Run him in crossing routes. Run back shoulder fades. Throw some jump balls to him. Maybe even run some end arounds with him. He's got plenty of speed and size and can be hard to bring down. Hell, maybe even use him in the Patterson role that worked well in the past.

You can't draft a guy then not put him in a position to succeed.
 

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Then they need to find ways to utilize Harry. Simplify the offense if necessary. Even if he can only run, say, five patterns, then use him for that. This is what good coaches do - they make the best use of the talent they have available. Yes, it appears that they simply cannot do everything they want to do on offense. That much is obvious. So ok, figure out something ELSE. Harry clearly has *talent*. How to make the best use of it? What does he do best? It seems like he's really good at: (1) fighting for contested passes (despite the pick last week by Houston), and (2) running after the catch.

So simplify things so you get more out of those two things. Run him in crossing routes. Run back shoulder fades. Throw some jump balls to him. Maybe even run some end arounds with him. He's got plenty of speed and size and can be hard to bring down. Hell, maybe even use him in the Patterson role that worked well in the past.

You can't draft a guy then not put him in a position to succeed.
Harry has physical tools, but it remains an open question as to whether he's figured out enough to effectively utilize them. He obviously hasn't shown enough in practice to earn the trust of the coaching staff. Given that the coaching staff has worked successfully with WR's in the past, I doubt McDaniels has suddenly forgotten how to work in a guy like Harry.

Maybe he'll improve; he's a rookie having played all of 4 games so far. It took Malcolm Mitchell nearly 2/3'rds of a season to become an effective piece of the offense.

Hopefully we'll see more of Harry for the reasons you cited, but the reasons we haven't almost certainly are due to Harry's learning curve as opposed to the coaching staff's mistakes.
 

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Then they need to find ways to utilize Harry. Simplify the offense if necessary. Even if he can only run, say, five patterns, then use him for that. This is what good coaches do - they make the best use of the talent they have available. Yes, it appears that they simply cannot do everything they want to do on offense. That much is obvious. So ok, figure out something ELSE. Harry clearly has *talent*. How to make the best use of it? What does he do best? It seems like he's really good at: (1) fighting for contested passes (despite the pick last week by Houston), and (2) running after the catch.

So simplify things so you get more out of those two things. Run him in crossing routes. Run back shoulder fades. Throw some jump balls to him. Maybe even run some end arounds with him. He's got plenty of speed and size and can be hard to bring down. Hell, maybe even use him in the Patterson role that worked well in the past.

You can't draft a guy then not put him in a position to succeed.
I sympathize with everything you're saying in theory. I'd love for Harry to grow into a bigger role. Heck, its the only dream you can really construct about this offense getting better.

But it probably is just that..a dream. McDaniels and BB are clearly desperate to find something on offense - they're trying every gadget play, they're going for all out punt blocks, etc. What they're not doing is giving N'Keal Harry a lot of snaps and the Occam's Razor explanation is that its not because they're stubbornly unwilling to simplify the offense for him or not creative enough in using him, but because they believe he'd make the offense worse if they tried that.
 

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Didn't they draft a big WR in the first round?
Yes, but he really struggled against press in college and isn't a great route-runner or separator. I (and many others) thought / think his best role is big slot.

I don't understand how they've handled Harry at all. He was back at practice when they IR'd him, so it doesn't seem like he needed six weeks off. Did they think they could ramp him up quickly? Did they think they wouldn't need him? If the former, clearly they were wrong. If the latter, why waive Josh Gordon? I don't get it.

Now Harry has a hip injury, though he did speak with the media after the game, which usually means it's not serious.
 

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Yes, but he really struggled against press in college and isn't a great route-runner or separator. I (and many others) thought / think his best role is big slot.

I don't understand how they've handled Harry at all. He was back at practice when they IR'd him, so it doesn't seem like he needed six weeks off. Did they think they could ramp him up quickly? Did they think they wouldn't need him? If the former, clearly they were wrong. If the latter, why waive Josh Gordon? I don't get it.

Now Harry has a hip injury, though he did speak with the media after the game, which usually means it's not serious.
Gordon has done zilch since he's left New England, so I cannot really blame them for that one. It's clear from the reports that he really didn't want to be here anymore.
 

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Gordon has done zilch since he's left New England, so I cannot really blame them for that one. It's clear from the reports that he really didn't want to be here anymore.
"Zilch" is six catches for 81 yards, which is more than Sanu, Harry, or Dorsett have in the last four games, and that's while integrating with a new team and playing only 30-something percent of snaps. He'd be the Patriots' best X still by a mile.
 

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Harry has physical tools, but it remains an open question as to whether he's figured out enough to effectively utilize them. He obviously hasn't shown enough in practice to earn the trust of the coaching staff. Given that the coaching staff has worked successfully with WR's in the past, I doubt McDaniels has suddenly forgotten how to work in a guy like Harry.

Maybe he'll improve; he's a rookie having played all of 4 games so far. It took Malcolm Mitchell nearly 2/3'rds of a season to become an effective piece of the offense.

Hopefully we'll see more of Harry for the reasons you cited, but the reasons we haven't almost certainly are due to Harry's learning curve as opposed to the coaching staff's mistakes.
Maybe coaching is the issue. While it isn't the first time that we have seen new receivers have difficulty masting the Pats offense, the Pats do have a new WR coach this season. Maybe it isn't just the players that are struggling.
 

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"Zilch" is six catches for 81 yards, which is more than Sanu, Harry, or Dorsett have in the last four games, and that's while integrating with a new team and playing only 30-something percent of snaps. He'd be the Patriots' best X still by a mile.
And he was in Brady’s circle of trust, which basically right now consists of Edelman and occasionally Dorsett.
 

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And he was in Brady’s circle of trust, which basically right now consists of Edelman and occasionally Dorsett.
It would help guys like Meyers move into Brady's circle of trust if he catches the third down pass that goes RIGHT through his hands and would have resulted in a first down, or if he had caught the touchdown pass that went through and hit the ground. You want more passes, rook? Make those catches please.
 

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It would help guys like Meyers move into Brady's circle of trust if he catches the third down pass that goes RIGHT through his hands and would have resulted in a first down, or if he had caught the touchdown pass that went through and hit the ground. You want more passes, rook? Make those catches please.
Absolutely. He was making real steady progress the last few weeks but yesterday was a setback. I give him partial credit for at least getting in position to make a play but, man, have to make those.
 

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What does this "circle of trust" even mean?
Brady had thrown to Meyers plenty and on critical plays. Brady is not dictating Harry's snap counts. This trust thing seems more of a media creation.
 

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The Circle of Trust was one of the points Kurt Warner was making on NFLN on Sunday morning. He showed plays where those outside the circle actually had been open, but that Brady either didn't look their way, or just decided to throw somewhere else.

Giardi points out Meyers was open here ... but that after the drops, Brady decided not to go to him

View: https://twitter.com/MikeGiardi/status/1204070142042198016

Orlovsky on the same play, saying he doesn't blame Brady for not going there

View: https://twitter.com/danorlovsky7/status/1204077893103628291
 
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The Circle of Trust was one of the points Kurt Warner was making on NFLN on Sunday morning. He showed plays where those outside the circle actually had been open, but that Brady either didn't look their way, or just decided to throw somewhere else.

Giardi points out Meyers was open here ... but that after the drops, Brady decided not to go to him

View: https://twitter.com/MikeGiardi/status/1204070142042198016

Orlovsky on the same play, saying he doesn't blame Brady for not going there

View: https://twitter.com/danorlovsky7/status/1204077893103628291
Thanks for posting this. You obviously can’t make every read correctly but I would bet that video review isn’t as kind to Brady this year on these types of things. Hard to blame him, really.
 

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Thanks for posting this. You obviously can’t make every read correctly but I would bet that video review isn’t as kind to Brady this year on these types of things. Hard to blame him, really.
And that's really the issue: It is harder to blame him for this kind of thing this year, but in a season where their margin for error has become so thin, everything ... included justifiable reluctance ... becomes magnified.

I wish i could find the Warner breakdown, because he shows more plays
 

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The Circle of Trust was one of the points Kurt Warner was making on NFLN on Sunday morning. He showed plays where those outside the circle actually had been open, but that Brady either didn't look their way, or just decided to throw somewhere else.

Giardi points out Meyers was open here ... but that after the drops, Brady decided not to go to him

View: https://twitter.com/MikeGiardi/status/1204070142042198016

Orlovsky on the same play, saying he doesn't blame Brady for not going there

View: https://twitter.com/danorlovsky7/status/1204077893103628291
Yeah, Meyers is open, but after Brady has decided to throw to Julian because he has 300 lbs of DL in his face.
 

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Yeah, Meyers is open, but after Brady has decided to throw to Julian because he has 300 lbs of DL in his face.
I think this is it. It's easy to look at the TV view and see an open guy but Brady's got split-seconds and dudes in his face. When he's got time, he's going through progressions. But his first look is always going to be to Edelman when he's single-covered, because of course it is. If he thinks it's there, he's going to throw it, especially when there's a jailbreak blitz.

Meyers didn't get a ton of targets last night but he's been getting a bunch in recent weeks. Needs to do more with them. Any sober statistical analysis would say Brady isn't throwing to Edelman and White *enough.* His numbers are awful throwing to the other guys.
 

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KC is showing blitz there so Brady needs to get it out quickly. And really Edelman should have made a play on it.

I don't doubt Brady has missed seeing open guys. Probably more often than previously but I think it's probably more do to lack of trust/ execution in the line than anything.

Meyers for one is getting plenty of looks. He haa a higher percentage of targets per snap than Dorsett. He's higher than Hogan or Dorsett last year and not far off from Gordon.
For a guy that is often likely the 3rd or 4th read Brady has gone to him plenty. Brady might misread some plays especially under pressure but I don't see much evidence that he is shutting these guys out.
 

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It would help guys like Meyers move into Brady's circle of trust if he catches the third down pass that goes RIGHT through his hands and would have resulted in a first down, or if he had caught the touchdown pass that went through and hit the ground. You want more passes, rook? Make those catches please.
Maybe that's why he was a UDfa.
 

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Meyers is open there, but I think it's far from sure he scores even in the (sadly, unlikely) event he makes the catch. There's a DB easily in range of closing on him before he gets to the goal line.

Jules had great leverage, and was amply open if Brady had time to drill a low pass... but the pass rush meant he had to loft it, and, giving credit where due, the DB made a good play.
 

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Meyers is open there, but I think it's far from sure he scores even in the (sadly, unlikely) event he makes the catch. There's a DB easily in range of closing on him before he gets to the goal line.

Jules had great leverage, and was amply open if Brady had time to drill a low pass... but the pass rush meant he had to loft it, and, giving credit where due, the DB made a good play.
They just needed a first down there and I am pretty sure he gets that given where he was with relation to the first down line.
 

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Meyers is open there, but I think it's far from sure he scores even in the (sadly, unlikely) event he makes the catch. There's a DB easily in range of closing on him before he gets to the goal line.

Jules had great leverage, and was amply open if Brady had time to drill a low pass... but the pass rush meant he had to loft it, and, giving credit where due, the DB made a good play.
Meyers didn't need to score. They just needed a first down. Then spike, and they have just about a minute to get the touchdown.
 

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I think this is it. It's easy to look at the TV view and see an open guy but Brady's got split-seconds and dudes in his face. When he's got time, he's going through progressions. But his first look is always going to be to Edelman when he's single-covered, because of course it is. If he thinks it's there, he's going to throw it, especially when there's a jailbreak blitz.
I don't blame him at all for going to Edelman given the other receivers. But its indicative of a larger problem, in that the hot read in this situation - (1) jailbreak blitz, with one more rusher than they block and (2) coverage in which Meyers' guy is playing off coverage and going under Edelman's route - really should be Meyers (or whoever is running that route). Edelman's route is slower developing so at best you're going to be delivering a tough ball with a guy in your face.

Hypothetically, if Danny Amendola circa 2014-2016 was running Meyer's route, I am 100% sure that's where the ball goes without a second thought from TB.

You need to have enough competence and confidence to take what the defense gives you in these situations. And right now TB12 doesn't have the confidence in those guys to do that, because they haven't shown the competence to run the routes correctly and catch the ball when it comes to them.
 

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They just needed a first down there and I am pretty sure he gets that given where he was with relation to the first down line.
Meyers didn't need to score. They just needed a first down. Then spike, and they have just about a minute to get the touchdown.
Watch that sequence in slow motion between seconds 4 and 6 (using the posted video). By the time Meyers is starting to appear open, the KC rush is already closing in on Brady and the ball is leaving his hands. The ball is in the air towards a breaking Edelman when Meyers truly looks open. This wasn't a matter of Brady not "trusting" Meyers, it was a matter of Meyers not getting separation in time to help, given how atrocious our OL played.
 

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Watch that sequence in slow motion between seconds 4 and 6 (using the posted video). By the time Meyers is starting to appear open, the KC rush is already closing in on Brady and the ball is leaving his hands. The ball is in the air towards a breaking Edelman when Meyers truly looks open. This wasn't a matter of Brady not "trusting" Meyers, it was a matter of Meyers not getting separation in time to help, given how atrocious our OL played.
Yeah, shit moves fast, and this isn’t seven on seven football in shorts. The human brain doesn’t make and then act on decisions as instantaneously as people think, either.

You live with that final play.

What you don’t live with is their near unprecedented reliance on trick plays to generate offense.
 

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Watch that sequence in slow motion between seconds 4 and 6 (using the posted video). By the time Meyers is starting to appear open, the KC rush is already closing in on Brady and the ball is leaving his hands. The ball is in the air towards a breaking Edelman when Meyers truly looks open. This wasn't a matter of Brady not "trusting" Meyers, it was a matter of Meyers not getting separation in time to help, given how atrocious our OL played.
Nah. Its an obvious throw to the WR running Myers' route if you don't have a strong preference for throwing to the other guy. At four seconds into the clip, Tom clearly sees the DB on Myers back off and prepare to go under the other route. Right there he should be diagnosing the coverage and preparing to let it go very quickly to the crosser under normal circumstances. By five or six seconds into the clip, Myers has cut and the DB covering him is nowhere near. Tom should be throwing or getting ready to throw at that point. Instead, he is backpeddling to give himself time to loft one to Jules.

Its emblematic of the larger problem. A lot of the offense is designed to take advantage of what the defense gives you. You run a route combination to attack a certain kind of look, the pass defenders are forced to make choices about how they'll defend that route combination, and that choice dictates (or at least weighs very heavily) on where you look to go with the ball. If you're just going to throw the ball to Edelman no matter what choices the defenders make in defending the route combination, the value of that kind of offense is largely lost.
 
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As Orlovsky points out, Brady wasn't throwing to Meyers regardless of the circumstance because of the earlier drops. He's looking for Edelman from the get-go, figuring Edelman might beat the coverage.

The point, though, isn't just the mechanics of this play. It's whether, in certain circumstances, he's just going to go to Edelman or White regardless of how the play unfolds.

It's not a matter of blame; it's a matter of trust that the play will be made. Defenses know this as well; it makes their job easier if they know certain guys just aren't going to see the ball.
 

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I don't blame him at all for going to Edelman given the other receivers. But its indicative of a larger problem, in that the hot read in this situation - (1) jailbreak blitz, with one more rusher than they block and (2) coverage in which Meyers' guy is playing off coverage and going under Edelman's route - really should be Meyers (or whoever is running that route). Edelman's route is slower developing so at best you're going to be delivering a tough ball with a guy in your face.
Meyer's guy isn't in position to break under Edelman's route because Edelman is breaking his route to the outside. And there's wide open space to the outside. And at the point when Brady releases the pass, the DB has his back to the ball. I think if Brady had to do it over again, he puts this ball a little more to the outside.

Hypothetically, if Danny Amendola circa 2014-2016 was running Meyer's route, I am 100% sure that's where the ball goes without a second thought from TB.
I think this is too far. Brady famously missed wide-open Gronk on the final two-point play in the 2015 AFCCG. Is Gronk not in the "Circle of Trust?" Sometimes quarterbacks miss open guys, or for whatever reason they don't think they can fit the throw in. Maybe he did decide he wouldn't throw to Meyers no matter what. But I wouldn't assume that.
 

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Meyer's guy isn't in position to break under Edelman's route because Edelman is breaking his route to the outside. And there's wide open space to the outside. And at the point when Brady releases the pass, the DB has his back to the ball. I think if Brady had to do it over again, he puts this ball a little more to the outside.

I think this is too far. Brady famously missed wide-open Gronk on the final two-point play in the 2015 AFCCG. Is Gronk not in the "Circle of Trust?" Sometimes quarterbacks miss open guys, or for whatever reason they don't think they can fit the throw in. Maybe he did decide he wouldn't throw to Meyers no matter what. But I wouldn't assume that.
Obviously we're not inside TB12's head and I was being a bit hyperbolic in my post.

But it seems clear to me that under normal circumstances the first option for a QB against this coverage should be the crosser. The short crosser is an easier throw in general and the defense is making a concerted decision to make it very hard to defend that throw in the interest of maximizing its ability to defend the other throw (Myers' DB drops and goes under the route so that he doesn't interfere with the guy covering Jules). TB12 must have read that kind of route combination a zillion times in his life.

Again, I'm not putting this on TB12. I'm saying that this offense isn't going to work if he doesn't have the confidence in his WRs to make that read and throw.
 

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Maybe if Wynn isn't pushing Clark towards Brady he would have had more than 1.5 seconds on the play. Edelman had beaten his guy and a better pass just a bit further outside gives Jules a great chance at making the catch. Unfortunately Brady has to loft a pass off his backfoot for the umpteenth time.

Perhaps they would be better served moving Cardano to C and long snapping the ball to Brady to give him an extra second before the pass rush gets home.
 

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They just needed a first down there and I am pretty sure he gets that given where he was with relation to the first down line.
I doubt he catches it and actually think that play is probably intercepted. The defender is right there. Those are the exact kind of plays that this offense hasn't been able to pull off all year that only look good in still frames.

Edelman was definitely the call - it just didn't work.

I've now watched this 20 or so times. Edelman is as open as Edelman is ever going to get. Myers is at absolute best a completion still short of the goal line.
 

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He gets the first down IF he catches it. After watching him yesterday, that is anything but certain. He had a bad day.
Watching again and I think it would be close. He's right at the line when he makes his cut, he comes back for the ball and it could be close. I think he likely gets its but not a sure thing.
 

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I doubt he catches it and actually think that play is probably intercepted. The defender is right there. Those are the exact kind of plays that this offense hasn't been able to pull off all year that only look good in still frames.

Edelman was definitely the call - it just didn't work.

I've now watched this 20 or so times. Edelman is as open as Edelman is ever going to get. Myers is at absolute best a completion still short of the goal line.
A catch short of the goal line would be fine. They would have had first-and-goal with a timeout and a minute left. Still, the likelihood of an INT or knockdown or incompletion was probably higher if the throw is to Myers.
 

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A catch short of the goal line would be fine. They would have had first-and-goal with a timeout and a minute left. Still, the likelihood of an INT or knockdown or incompletion was probably higher if the throw is to Myers.
Except one would assume Boger would mark the ball a yard shy of where it was caught, and no challenges...
 

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For anybody still interested, Mascho has a nice segment in his most recent podcast where he breaks down the final play and a bunch of other offensive plays from the Chiefs game.

A repeated theme involves Brady not going to the first read when its open but its a WR/TE that he might not fully trust. Mark looks at the final play, the third down play on the previous drive when Brady didn't throw to Myers in the flat near the goal line, as well as a play where he didn't pull the trigger on a throw to LaCosse down the seam.

There are a bunch of other plays that highlight our dumpster fire of an OL, particularly Ferentz and Wynn. His podcast is always great but I thought this was a particularly good listen (you may want to fast forward through the first segment on Deflategate II though unless you really want to hear more about it).
 

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Sanu had 2 receptions for 13 yards on 7 targets.

So we're now at, 6 games, 20 receptions, 148 yards, one touchdown.

He also had the fumble that was brought back because of penalties, and quite a few passes he should have caught.

ugh.
 

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Sanu had 2 receptions for 13 yards on 7 targets.

So we're now at, 6 games, 20 receptions, 148 yards, one touchdown.

He also had the fumble that was brought back because of penalties, and quite a few passes he should have caught.

ugh.
Let’s hope he redeems himself in the playoffs.
 

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For anybody still interested, Mascho has a nice segment in his most recent podcast where he breaks down the final play and a bunch of other offensive plays from the Chiefs game.

A repeated theme involves Brady not going to the first read when its open but its a WR/TE that he might not fully trust. Mark looks at the final play, the third down play on the previous drive when Brady didn't throw to Myers in the flat near the goal line, as well as a play where he didn't pull the trigger on a throw to LaCosse down the seam.

There are a bunch of other plays that highlight our dumpster fire of an OL, particularly Ferentz and Wynn. His podcast is always great but I thought this was a particularly good listen (you may want to fast forward through the first segment on Deflategate II though unless you really want to hear more about it).
What's the name of the podcast?
 

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For me it's on the Pats Pulpit feed episodes titled the Scho Show.
You’re relatively new here, yeah?

Do you know who Scho is or no? I can’t tell.

Either way, though, yeah: He’s great. His passion for the game is, one might say, positively medieval.
 

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You’re relatively new here, yeah?

Do you know who Scho is or no? I can’t tell.

Either way, though, yeah: He’s great. His passion for the game is, one might say, positively medieval.
I know who he is but searching for both his real name and sosh handle with "podcast" didn't generate any hits for me, nor did I see it on Inside the Pylon, so... I've been around, just missed this one for whatever reason.

Anyway, thanks tmracht for sharing so I can add this to my feed.
 

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Still think it was worth a shot. Their hands were tied due to the cap space eaten by the AB sign and then cut.
 
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I don’t think I’ve ever been as annoyed at a WR for consecutive plays not involving a dropped pass or a penalty before. Between the failure to extend his arms as he was going out of bounds on 3rd down and the complete non-effort on the block for Harry’s run on 4th-and-1, Sanu got under my skin in a whole new way today.

In his defense, there were one or two plays I noticed where Sanu actually got open, but Brady just missed him. Hopefully that means he’s getting healthier, if nothing else.