2018 Golf Thread

[Phragle]

Well, I was thinking of recommending Bombtech but super new hightech isn't really their thing. They make great clubs at a great price, but they're not crazy adjustable or filled with helium or whatever so I didn't reply. That being said, if you need golf clubs and you don't at least check them out, you're doing yourself a disservice.

I think if you need crazy adjustable hybrids something else is going on that should be addressed first, and tech doesn't make a huge difference outside of woods

 

[jercra]

I think if you need crazy adjustable hybrids something else is going on that should be addressed first, and tech doesn't make a huge difference outside of woods

True, and tell timing of your post is good since they just announced a hybrid set of 3, 4 & 5 for a total of $150. They have a 60 day guarantee. If you're looking for hybrids, you should check them out. If it helps, I'm a 2 cap and I play a Bombtech hybrid as well as 5 wood. I have the 3 wood and many of their wedges but they aren't in the bag right now. The point is, they aren't knock off crap just because the price is low.

 

[steveluck7]

Anyone in RI or Eastern CT, Foster Country Club is offering a 3 year membership for $59 / yr.

 

[jercra]

Anyone have any tips on how to get cheap(er) golf in March in Vegas? I'll be there for golf, USA Rugby Sevens and drinking for 5 days. Everything I find online is either expensive as shit or requires residency so I'm looking to see if there are any insider tricks like "loyalty cards" or the like that don't require residency.

 

[FL4WL3SS]

I don't have any tips, but that trip sounds fucking awesome.

 

[jercra]

It's seriously awesome. It's the most fun I have while still being in bed by like 9PM every night. Rugby Sevens is damn fun event. Very international feel with countries from all over the world who take over whole sections of the stadium. People are dressed up in crazy outfits. The games are so fast that you don't get bored. It's not insanely packed so we just get GA tickets and sit up in the bleachers drinking beer and sitting in the sun after a day of golf and cigars. Then you're so exhausted from drinking in the sun all day that we just go home (AirBnb), order delivery and crash until it's time to start again the next morning.

 

[southshoresoxfan]

Just ordered the bombtech 3 wood and 3/4/5 hybrid set.

So far the new setup looks like Taylormade M2 driver, those bomb techs, 54/58 TM milled wedges. Still mulling a few iron options. I may try the Apex Pro from Callaway.

I’ve hit the AP2s and JPXs w the Mizunos being the leader in the clubhouse. I’ve seen these XXIO irons classified as the mid handicapper type irons. Anyone know anything about them? Or have any other suggestions for an improving 10 cap?

 

[southshoresoxfan]

Went with the AP2s. Joe and Leigh’s had a demo set of the 716s on clearance for $500. They are running a huge wherehouse clearance sale right now if anyone needs anything.

 

[Phragle]

Looks like while Pxg and Taylormade were busy suing each other Ping was busing knocking off both of them https://ping.com/clubs/irons/g700

 

[southshoresoxfan]

Those bombtech hybrids. My goodness.

 

[TFP]

Yeah? Do share.

 

[southshoresoxfan]

Easy to launch. Great carry distances, but more importantly not much rollout. Landed very soft with excellent backspin rates. The 3 wood I need some time with, I haven’t carried a 3W in years.

Forgiving workable and long. Was able to fade and draw. Well worth checking out.

 

[Conigliaro's Potential]

With the AT&T taking place this week, I'm curious...who else here has played Pebble Beach (and/or any of the other big courses on the Monterey Peninsula) in the past? If you have, what did you think?

 

[Zomp]

Here is my write up on this site a few years back.

Okay so first let me say, next to getting married, it was the best day of my life. The only reason its #2 and not number 1 is because I shot 86 and blew up on the back after playing relatively well on the front.

Since I wasn't a resort guest, I could only get a guaranteed tee time on Pebble the morning before I wanted to tee off. They assured me it wouldn't be a problem seeing as though I was a single and would be able to latch on to any group, but I took no chances, got up at 3:55am in Honolulu and called the reservation center to get my guaranteed noon tee time. Why noon? First off we wouldn't be arriving to our hotel the night before til around 2am, and secondly I wanted warm enough weather so my wife wouldn't be cold waking the course with me. We arrived around 10am after I got maybe 2 hours of sleep from being so excited and had breakfast at the restaurant that overlooked the first tee. I was getting more nervous with every good tee shot I saw as there is always a crowd of 30-50 people watching you tee off. Some aren't even there to golf, they just want to walk around the place.

After being picked up by the shuttle with leather reclining chairs I got to the practice area around 11:20. The employee at the Pro Shop told me to arrive in front of the first tee 15 minutes before my tee time to meet my caddy and playing partners so I hit balls for 25 minutes and was ready to go. I actually hit the ball really well at the range and was pretty psyched to get started. Since it was a uncharacteristically slow day, I met my playing partner and we went to the first tee as a twosome. The guy I played with was Colin Montgomerie's twin except for being a 25 handicap or so. On the first tee, the starter asked me what my handicap was, I told him I was an 8 while the guy I was playing with was a 25 or so. He told me that I could play whatever tees I wanted but he strongly recommended playing the golds, which on that day were playing around 6500 yards. I considered playing the blues but I was really nervous about holding up play since on some holes there are completely different paths to the tees so I agreed that the golds would be best.

I won't go by every single hole but I found myself nervous on the first tee. It didn't help when the 25 handicapper busted his drive down the middle of the fairway. I opted to hit my stinger on the short hole (playing around 340 that day) and hoped to get it out there around 230 in the fairway. I put the tee in the ground, tried to play as fast as I could, and TOPPED THE FIRST SHOT OF THE DAY. There were a few groans but thankfully the ground was hard and the ball rolled 100 yards so I didn't have to hit the next one in front of the crowd. I hit my hybrid into the greenside bunker, hit it out to about 20ft and missed a 4 footer for bogey. Doubled the first.

The second was the reachable par 5 that played 490 yards that day. I believe in the US Open the pros played it as a par 4 but my caddy wasn't sure. Anyway, driver to the first cut, 5 iron to the right side of the right bunker, flop shot to 12 feet and a holed putt meant I birdied the second to settle me down.

I made par on the next 5 holes in a row, hitting the green in regulation on every hole but missing the birdie putts. To be fair to me, some of the pin positions were very tough and I never realized how sloped some of their greens are. One shot I'll brag about was my tee shot on 3. From the tee box we were on that day the hole played about 360 and the bunkers at the beginning of the fairway were about 235 to carry. For those of you that don't know the hole, if you hit your tee shot more than 260 or so you'll go through the fairway as the hole doglegs sharp to the left. I hit my 3 wood, carried the last bunker on the left with a little draw, and watched my ball funnel down the middle of the fairway to about 70 yards from the green. The caddy couldn't get over where the ball ended up...not to be all Chris Farley, but yeah, that was awesome.

I doubled 8 and parred 9. 8 isn't fair. We played it at 370 yards but you can only hit your tee shot around 200 before you have to hit your second shot over a cliff to a green thats about 60 feet below you. Adding to the difficulty is a stiff wind that according to my caddy is always in your face. I had 170 yards, took one extra club and hit my 6 iron into the bunker that was over the green. The pin was in the back as well and my caddy stressed how fast the green was sloping down. I tried to get too cute with it, got the shot out of the sand but left it in the rough. Flop shot was next as I saw my ball literally trickle by the hole, almost stop, then gain speed and end 15 ft from the cup. Double bogey. 39 on the front.

It was all down hill from there. Doubled 10, after hitting my second shot in the water, made par on 11 then didn't make another par the rest of the day. Doubled a few more holes, including 17, to shoot 47 on the back. 86.

The greens were unreadable. Fast uphill and sometimes slow downhill. My caddy wanted me to play much more break then was needed and though I usually like my putts to die in the hole, I think he was reading them as being faster than they were.

I loved walking with a caddy and don't want to slam mine too bad because he was a young kid and it was his first year. But one thing I didn't like was him telling me which club to hit off tees. I probably should have been more blunt with him but I tried to drop hints by asking him how far certain things were off tees and too greens. For example, he wanted me to hit driver on #3 but after I asked him what the carry distance was of the bunker and through the fairway, I pulled 3 wood.

The bunkers had some of the softest sand I've ever been in. I had probably 5 bunker shots all day and 3 of them were fried eggs, including one on 18 that I left in the bunker in front of a gallery (however I did hit the next one to 2 feet to applause).

 

[FL4WL3SS]

The USGA and the R&A are rolling out a new World Handicap System (WHS) in 2020. The system looks very similar to the current USGA system, but there are a few interesting changes.

1. The new system will use 8 rounds instead of 10 from your last 20
2. Double bogey max for ALL golfers, regardless of handicap
3. Handicaps calculated daily instead of bi-weekly
4. A new algorithm will take into account playing conditions if scores are higher or lower than normal

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/usga-randa-unveil-new-world-handicap-system-set-to-debut-in-2020

 

[TFP]

I feel like at some point it should be triple bogey max above a certain level. That’s generally my cutoff when keeping score (not ESQ, just in general when telling people what I shot) and feels about right for anyone with a double digit cap.

 

[Byrdbrain]

Yeah a double bogey max seems awful low for a high handicapper. I also find it interesting that at the same time they are instituting the double bogey rule they are increasing the max handicaps to 54.
I know it isn't exact with slopes and ratings but if you can only take a max of a double bogey then how would your handicap go appreciably over 36?

Also interesting with the daily updates. I wonder how they will handle multi-day tournaments. If that sandbagging "20" handicap somehow shoots a 78 in the first day of the club tournament will his handicap get adjusted mid-tournament of is it fixed for the duration?
I like the former but I'm guessing it would be the latter just to keep things more straightforward for tournament organizers.

 

[jercra]

For keeping your score I usually stick with double par to keep the pace moving in non-tourney rounds. For ESC I think this is perfect. As a low handicap but not quite a scratch, it's near impossible to win a tourney. This will help eliminate some of the variance that makes the low double-digit capper the kings of the handicapped tourneys and will make non-flighted tourneys possible. Also taking conditions into account is something I've been looking for forever. A score in a 50 mph wind is different that on a nice calm, sunny day and should be treated as such.

 

[jercra]

Yeah a double bogey max seems awful low for a high handicapper. I also find it interesting that at the same time they are instituting the double bogey rule they are increasing the max handicaps to 54.
I know it isn't exact with slopes and ratings but if you can only take a max of a double bogey then how would your handicap go appreciably over 36?

It's net double bogey. So you can still take a 9 on a par 5.

I missed that point too and it completely invalidates my hopes of eliminating the low-double-digit winner of all tourneys. Too bad. Gross double would have been better for everyone.

 

[Byrdbrain]

Ok that does change things for sure.
I see the logic of one rule instead of the three tiered system they have now but I don’t think I like the net double rule.
I do have to point out that as one of those low double digit handicaps, I take offense at your tone. [emoji16]

 

[Papelbon's Poutine]

The USGA and the R&A are rolling out a new World Handicap System (WHS) in 2020. The system looks very similar to the current USGA system, but there are a few interesting changes.

1. The new system will use 8 rounds instead of 10 from your last 20
2. Double bogey max for ALL golfers, regardless of handicap
3. Handicaps calculated daily instead of bi-weekly
4. A new algorithm will take into account playing conditions if scores are higher or lower than normal

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/usga-randa-unveil-new-world-handicap-system-set-to-debut-in-2020

I like the changes but am curious on #4 and how the algorithm will be accurate (but I also know nothing about algorithms, so there's that). Simple question would be if I tee off at 7 AM, it's beautiful out and conditions are great, but I post at 5 PM, by which time a storm has rolled in, how are they determining that? I note it says they will take in all players scores for the day, but short of logging actual conditions/times, it seems difficult to be effective, fair and accurate. I'm sure it won't be a huge weight in the equation, I'm just generally curious how such a change manifests.

 

[jercra]

I like the changes but am curious on #4 and how the algorithm will be accurate (but I also know nothing about algorithms, so there's that). Simple question would be if I tee off at 7 AM, it's beautiful out and conditions are great, but I post at 5 PM, by which time a storm has rolled in, how are they determining that? I note it says they will take in all players scores for the day, but short of logging actual conditions/times, it seems difficult to be effective, fair and accurate. I'm sure it won't be a huge weight in the equation, I'm just generally curious how such a change manifests.

It also says only if it's an outlier score, which seems like it will only come up when the conditions are bad enough to have a major impact. Of course, we'll need to see what the actual rules and math are to see how things actually work.

 

[Papelbon's Poutine]

It also says only if it's an outlier score, which seems like it will only come up when the conditions are bad enough to have a major impact. Of course, we'll need to see what the actual rules and math are to see how things actually work.

OK, that makes more sense. I just envisioned weather changing and influencing scores that shouldn't be, but if you're still in your normal range and it doesn't help you after the fact, that makes more sense.

 

[jercra]

Thinking about this a bit more, net double bogey will allow the low handicap to earn a higher handicap than the current ESC system. I'm a 2 right now, so I could make a triple on the 1 & 2 highest handicap holes, where I could only make a double in the past. That will lead me to jump up roughly 2 strokes in index, which let's me triple on 4 holes!! Onward and upward we go! I'll be a 12 in no time.

 

[southshoresoxfan]

Confirmed. I’ll be playing Torrey Pines In July. Me and three other regional managers for my company are flying out a day early for our national sales meeting and going to make a tee time for Monday AM.

Any tips? (I have a calendar alert to call and book tee time 90 days out per their website that was the furthest out).

South Course the best?

 

[Papelbon's Poutine]

No tips, but jealous.


Had the day off and in middle of a light snow storm and was bored so swing by local shop to get a couple clubs reshafted and browsed the irons. I didn’t have time to hit any, but from initial looks, eye test has me leaning towards the AP1s or AP3; the p790; the Rogue was a nice looking club that I didn’t realize had been released. The other TMs looked a little clunky. I’ll be waiting until I can hit outside anyway and I also want to check out the Ping G700 coming out in a few weeks, but it was nice to lay eyes on them outside of a website.

Question for guys that are good with tech - I bought a new shaft for my 3W, didn’t like the stock one so bought the same shaft I’ve been using for probably ten years, new, on eBay. Made the mistake of buying a .350 while the adapter is .335. I’m seeing I can buy a .350 Ping adapter, will that have any negative effects?

 

[FL4WL3SS]

Be prepared for it to be in just ok shape and not blow you away condition-wise.

 

[FL4WL3SS]

Spent way too much on replacing every club in my bag yesterday (except the putter) after a fitting, but what an awesome experience. They'll be here in 10 working days or less and it's like waiting for xmas.

 

[Papelbon's Poutine]

What did you end up going with? I ended up with a set of AP1s. And same here, I ordered them last Tuesday and I'm anxious.

Was little annoyed by the fact they didn't do all the work on the woods I dropped off. I asked them to chop my stock D shaft down from 45.75" to 44.25" and they clearly didn't do it. I'm wondering how big a stink to make; only reason I wouldn't just go back is the grips I used can't be yanked and reused, so I'm going to have to get a new one.

 

[FL4WL3SS]

I ended up with some pretty expensive shit. I basically went in with no budget and told the guy was open to anything. I've been a Titleist guy for a long time, my entire bag was Titleist (913 driver, 910 3w, 712 cb/mb combo set irons and vokey wedges). It was pretty striking to see how I've been playing ill-fitting clubs for so long. Everything was too spinny so I was actually losing distance on all clubs (and if you saw my numbers, you'd wonder how that was possible). My irons were 1° too upright and .25" too long and my wedges didn't have any correct bounces.

We went through 20-30 shafts and 10-15 heads for each driver, 3w and irons. I went in and told the guy that accuracy and consistency was #1 and I didn't want any more distance because I'm almost too long as it is, but I ended up gaining 10 yards throughout the bag while tightening my shot dispersion significantly. It's coincidental that I ended up with premium stuff, it just happened to be what fit me best. I literally tried everything and we went over the numbers several times. I pretty much geeked out with this guy for 4 hours.

My final setup:
Driver: TM M4 44.5" with Fujikura Speeder Evolution II
3W: TM M4 with Fujikura Atmos Tour Spec Black
3-PW: Miura CB57 with Project X 6.5
52/56/60: Bettinardi H2 303 SS wedges with Project X 6.5 (60 degree wedge soft stepped)

I'm actually stunned I ended up with Taylormade woods, I was pretty against them going in, but after getting fit for a shaft and trying 5-6 other heads he put the M4 on and I couldn't hit one offline if I tried. It was uncanny.

Pretty happy with the final results. The woods didn't have a close competitor, but the Srixon Z965 irons were a very close second and the Cleveland wedges could have easily ended up in my bag.

 

[FL4WL3SS]

What did you end up going with? I ended up with a set of AP1s. And same here, I ordered them last Tuesday and I'm anxious.

Was little annoyed by the fact they didn't do all the work on the woods I dropped off. I asked them to chop my stock D shaft down from 45.75" to 44.25" and they clearly didn't do it. I'm wondering how big a stink to make; only reason I wouldn't just go back is the grips I used can't be yanked and reused, so I'm going to have to get a new one.

I'd make a stink, an inch and a half is pretty significant and you should tell them they should replace the grip for free for your troubles.

 

[Papelbon's Poutine]

I'd make a stink, an inch and a half is pretty significant and you should tell them they should replace the grip for free for your troubles.

I intend to make note of it, how big a stink will depend on who is working that day. The GM is kind of a dick; he's given me a hard time about club trade in values (he wasn't pleased when the PGA switched to it being good for store credit for anything, rather than just new club purchase) and is a pain when asking to take a club out to the range ("can't you just hit it into the net?") type stuff. Most of the other guys are cool and won't charge for grip installs when I bring my own, will toss me a driving range token now and then and do other little stuff for free. I have to get two wedges gripped and one bent a couple degrees, if they do all that for free and don't charge to chop the D down, I probably won't bitch too much about it; I have some extra grips and they don't sell them anyway. If it's the GM I'll come packing the hand written ticket with instructions and make him measure it.

 

[Phragle]

I ended up with some pretty expensive shit. I basically went in with no budget and told the guy was open to anything. I've been a Titleist guy for a long time, my entire bag was Titleist (913 driver, 910 3w, 712 cb/mb combo set irons and vokey wedges). It was pretty striking to see how I've been playing ill-fitting clubs for so long. Everything was too spinny so I was actually losing distance on all clubs (and if you saw my numbers, you'd wonder how that was possible). My irons were 1° too upright and .25" too long and my wedges didn't have any correct bounces.

We went through 20-30 shafts and 10-15 heads for each driver, 3w and irons. I went in and told the guy that accuracy and consistency was #1 and I didn't want any more distance because I'm almost too long as it is, but I ended up gaining 10 yards throughout the bag while tightening my shot dispersion significantly. It's coincidental that I ended up with premium stuff, it just happened to be what fit me best. I literally tried everything and we went over the numbers several times. I pretty much geeked out with this guy for 4 hours.

My final setup:
Driver: TM M4 44.5" with Fujikura Speeder Evolution II
3W: TM M4 with Fujikura Atmos Tour Spec Black
3-PW: Miura CB57 with Project X 6.5
52/56/60: Bettinardi H2 303 SS wedges with Project X 6.5 (60 degree wedge soft stepped)

I'm actually stunned I ended up with Taylormade woods, I was pretty against them going in, but after getting fit for a shaft and trying 5-6 other heads he put the M4 on and I couldn't hit one offline if I tried. It was uncanny.

Pretty happy with the final results. The woods didn't have a close competitor, but the Srixon Z965 irons were a very close second and the Cleveland wedges could have easily ended up in my bag.

This sounds like a great experience -- one worth paying for. It's crazy how different a "fitting' is based on where you go. I've been looking to get some objective data on my woods, but I haven't really found the place to get it. What kind of tech were you using to narrow down the options, just a trackman? Did you get to try driver shafts at 44.5 or did you have to use full length shafts and decide to cut it down later?

I just to go to my local shop and try every shaft I can and try to narrow down what I like. I bought a shaft that seemed to work well for me but it was cheap enough that I don't have to commit to it. I wish I had some more confidence in it though. It's all an estimation for me right now.

I'd make a stink, an inch and a half is pretty significant and you should tell them they should replace the grip for free for your troubles.

Yeah at minimum they should correct the mistake for free. I don't like Golf & Ski that much TBH, but I'm not sure where else you'd go in southern NH @Papelbon's Poutine

 

[FL4WL3SS]

Went to Club Champion for the fitting, which Id highly recommend. They have shops nationwide.

We used trackman, but they had every shaft and length/lie combination, so got to try everything and see the numbers. It was a very thorough experience, but it also helped that I knew a lot and what to try. I was able to give a lot of feedback on feel.

The one thing that I told him I appreciated was that he would put me in different shafts without telling me the characteristics of the shaft until after I hit balls with it, so I never had a preconceived impression before hitting it. Some fitters will tell you "this is a stiffer shaft that may do x" which I think influenced your swing.

 

[Papelbon's Poutine]

I don’t like them much either but the only repair issues I’ve ever had is when it’s been summer and they pass the clubs off to some kid working part time and I end up with a quarter inch of tape coming out from under a grip. Winter time it’s usually the bored golf guys and stuff gets done properly at least.

 

[Phragle]

Went to Club Champion for the fitting, which Id highly recommend. They have shops nationwide.

We used trackman, but they had every shaft and length/lie combination, so got to try everything and see the numbers. It was a very thorough experience, but it also helped that I knew a lot and what to try. I was able to give a lot of feedback on feel.

The one thing that I told him I appreciated was that he would put me in different shafts without telling me the characteristics of the shaft until after I hit balls with it, so I never had a preconceived impression before hitting it. Some fitters will tell you "this is a stiffer shaft that may do x" which I think influenced your swing.

That sounds great, and there is one in Needam. l was mostly wondering if there was any algorithm based suggestions based on swing frequency. I guess that's what Golf Tec does. I went by the Peabody one but I didn't love the feeling I got from talking to them, and 125 was too much for me considering where my game and injury situation is right now.

Anyone been to Club Champion Needam or a Golf Tec?

 

[4 6 3 DP]

Yes Club Champion.

They're good. No formula - they ask about your game and what you currently use and then tweak from there based on the best numbers.

I'd say they are very solid and have access to all the high end shafts and heads. Their big downside is I don't think they spend as much time on things like swing weight as other people do - I happen to be very swing weight sensitive so to me getting the head feeling heavy is as important as the flex of the shaft.

But they are very good at what they do.

 

[FL4WL3SS]

Yes Club Champion.

They're good. No formula - they ask about your game and what you currently use and then tweak from there based on the best numbers.

I'd say they are very solid and have access to all the high end shafts and heads. Their big downside is I don't think they spend as much time on things like swing weight as other people do - I happen to be very swing weight sensitive so to me getting the head feeling heavy is as important as the flex of the shaft.

But they are very good at what they do.

I didn't have that experience, we went through several swing weights and actually determined that every time I went to a lighter shaft, things would start going left. If you're concerned about any one particular thing I think all you'd have to do is ask about it.

 

[4 6 3 DP]

Thats great to hear. Maybe it was the fitter. I didn't have Bruce when I was there. And when I didn't I wasn't aware of SW - something I learned last year which I was clueless about before that.

 

[TFP]

This is all timely because I'm going Sunday to get new irons at Joe and Leigh's. I'm excited, nervous, and scared all at once, despite having already gone there before. Just the idea of getting new irons is a scary proposition.

Of course, it all doesn't matter if it doesn't stop snowing!

 

[southshoresoxfan]

Any rumblings on the Buy 3 get 1 Titleist Pro-V promotion this year?

From what I can gather the Prov1 launches a little higher and is a little softer around the green? I’ve always bounced around between balls (Vice, Snell, Callaway) but something about a crisp strike with a Pro-V that can’t be matched.

 

[Papelbon's Poutine]

ProV1x is the higher launch; ProV1 is softer and more spin.

 

[southshoresoxfan]

Anyone ever done lessons with GolfTec? Seems interesting with all the data and the sensors they can set you up with.

Was considering doing a swing evaluation and then a couple follow up lessons throughout the season.

 

[FL4WL3SS]

They're pretty legit, especially if you're looking for long term coaching. You'll be hitting into a net for all your lessons, which can be good and bad.

Obviously depends on the exact coach you get, so don't be afraid to try multiple.

 

[FL4WL3SS]

So I found this puppy while doing research on personal launch monitors. All of the reviews seem to be really good and I've watched a few comparisons between this and the GC2 launch monitor and it seems to be pretty spot on (and well within tolerance given the price difference $500 v $15000). I'll be buying one, but thought I'd share. If people are interested I'll give my reviews after I get it.

https://www.flightscopemevo.com/

 

[jercra]

So I found this puppy while doing research on personal launch monitors. All of the reviews seem to be really good and I've watched a few comparisons between this and the GC2 launch monitor and it seems to be pretty spot on (and well within tolerance given the price difference $500 v $15000). I'll be buying one, but thought I'd share. If people are interested I'll give my reviews after I get it.

https://www.flightscopemevo.com/

I've had one on my list for a long time. Would love to hear your impressions.

 

[Papelbon's Poutine]

So, went back to G&S today and got one of the better guys there. Explained the situation and showed the ticket and he agreed they didn’t do what I asked. They’re going got chop it down, regrip it and my wedges, bend one wedge a couple degrees and install my custom grips on my AP1s app for free. He also threw me $10 in store credit and said he would try to see if I could get credit for the uninstalled Tour Velvets that are coming eight the irons - I like DriTac midsize wraps and Titleist doesn’t offer those, so I had them shipped loose, intending to throw them on eBay. So all in all, I’m more than content.

Question for the techies - chopping the driver shaft down from 45.75” to 44.25” is going to mess my swing weight up, correct? So I should probably look at adding some weight to the head?

The G has interchangeable weight ports, my best research shows the stock is 10g, but I can find a Chinese knockoff set of six ports ranging 6-8-10-12-14-16g for like $25. I’d rather do that than mess around with lead tape. I almost think it’s worth the $25 just to have a range session or two where I can swap them out and see the differences as to what I want for ball flight.

 

[Comfortably Lomb]

If they were supposed to cut the shaft and set the driver at a certain swing weight it sounds like the shop should be making sure you end up at the right swing weight after the cut-down. But yes, cutting down will reduce swing weight.

 

[Phragle]

I've had one on my list for a long time. Would love to hear your impressions.

+1

So, went back to G&S today and got one of the better guys there. Explained the situation and showed the ticket and he agreed they didn’t do what I asked. They’re going got chop it down, regrip it and my wedges, bend one wedge a couple degrees and install my custom grips on my AP1s app for free. He also threw me $10 in store credit and said he would try to see if I could get credit for the uninstalled Tour Velvets that are coming eight the irons - I like DriTac midsize wraps and Titleist doesn’t offer those, so I had them shipped loose, intending to throw them on eBay. So all in all, I’m more than content.

I'll DM you about the grips.

Question for the techies - chopping the driver shaft down from 45.75” to 44.25” is going to mess my swing weight up, correct? So I should probably look at adding some weight to the head?

Yes, big time. I like a little lighter SW but length is a big factor. You can add weight to the head or go to a non-counterbalanced shaft. Pings designs their woods with heavy heads and compensates with light counterbalanced shafts. My 44.75" Lst is very light feeling (C7-8) even though the overall weight is a little heavy. When I put my new Tour Green in the length increases to 45.75" and the SW is around D5. Which route you go is up to your feel.

The G has interchangeable weight ports, my best research shows the stock is 10g, but I can find a Chinese knockoff set of six ports ranging 6-8-10-12-14-16g for like $25. I’d rather do that than mess around with lead tape. I almost think it’s worth the $25 just to have a range session or two where I can swap them out and see the differences as to what I want for ball flight.

Yeah I'm interested in weights too. I think I've seen them sold by billy bobs or something. Not sure, I'm going to research today.

 

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Yeah I'm interested in weights too. I think I've seen them sold by billy bobs or something. Not sure, I'm going to research today.

Billy bob's has them but they're $14 a piece. The kit I got had six weights for $31 (I was mistaken, I thought it was $25). I went the China route when I swapped out the weights in my Futura X and they fit perfectly; I think I saved something like $50 on the two pairs - and they have Superman logos on them!