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southshoresoxfan

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Phragles high irons are mickleson-esque. He also has this crappy 3 hybrid which is the best club ive ever swung. Consistently long and straight. Im stealing it from him
 

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FL4WL3SS said:
I'm sure that won't be hard to do.
 

 
southshoresoxfan said:
Phragles high irons are mickleson-esque. He also has this crappy 3 hybrid which is the best club ive ever swung. Consistently long and straight. Im stealing it from him
 
Well now I'm bringing a gun.
 

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Are you saying you like them or that you like sunglasses in general?
 
 
 
Both, but they have to be specific golf sunglasses that are not polarized.  I haven't played a round with the oakleys yet, just hit balls at the range but so far so good.
 

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Huuuge diff setting up closer. Its going to take time to feel natural, it feels like im cramped but irons were coming off really clean today at the range
 

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Looks like you are coming way outside on your back swing.

Try to get that inside more, and you'll need to really focus on it if you standing closer to the ball now.

Athletic move though.
 

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Looks like you are coming way outside on your back swing.

Try to get that inside more, and you'll need to really focus on it if you standing closer to the ball now.

Athletic move though.
You mean more vertical right. The inside/outside hurts my head

And yes thank you flawless. Big help honestly. Always struggled w iron accuracy
 

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So my post about playing today disappeared, and I think Flawless asked me how I did, but apologies if he did not and I'm babbling.
 
I had 83, which I was very pleased with for my first round in 5 month or so, especially when factoring in a 20-40mph wind for all 18 holes.  I've seriously never played in wind like that before.  3 club wind but to be honest the ball flight didn't bother me as much as how hard it was just to take a stance and hit the ball solidly.  160 yard par 3 downwind, I hit PW.  140 into the wind?  7 iron.  Crazy stuff.
 

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I've played twice already this year, seeing a marked improvement with my irons over last year. Contact has been consistent and getting really good ball flight, so hopefully that will continue. Just need to work on getting off the tee and my chipping game and things will come around.
 
Shot a 101 the first time out which I was more than happy with. Yesterday I went 40-52 for a disappointing 92 if I can call it that. Normally I'd be thrilled with a 92 but after the 40 on the front (and could have easily been a 39 since I duffed a chip two feet on 9) it was disappointing to let a good score like that go to waste. I didn't even fall apart no the back, just made doubles where I had been making pars and bogeys on the front.
 
Looking forward to a good summer this year. Anyone still using OOB golf to track scores? I'm still using it, my handicap is down to a 21.1, my goal is keep reducing it this summer. No idea what's a realistic number to be at, but anything around 17 would be impressive to me.
 

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Playing Colorado Golf Club on Wednesday paid for by a vendor.  It's where the played the Solheim Cup last year and designed by Crenshaw and Coore like my favorite of the Bandon courses (trails).  Weather is going to be iffy but I'm looking forward to getting on those back tees and seeing what 7600 yards feels like.
 
I'm going to start posting back on OOB.  I kind of stopped when I re-upped my GHIN handicap but I'll pick it back since so many people I know use it.
 
Edit: What a great, great golf course.  Played from the tips at 7600 yards (at over 6500 feet of elevation).  Bookend shitty holes of Double bogey then bogey on 1 and 2 then 17 and 18 with a stellar 14 holes in between to end up with a 76.  5 birdies on a course like that is hard to pull off.  The back tees are an insane 75.5/149 though if you hit the fairway and you can hit an iron it wasn't that hard.  There are some monster holes like a 650 yard par 5 and 530 yard par 4.  Played with the same ball all day and 3 putted 1 and 18 for no good reason at all.  Could have been an epic day but I'm ok with a 76 on a course like that.  Coore and Crenshaw really know how to build a golf course.
 

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Thats interesting. I dont like it. But its something innovative in a game that lacks. There needs to be a cheaper widespread way to learn golf so more people can at least be bogey golfers. That will head off the numbers they are losing IMO
 

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The interesting thing to come out of that is when Rose and Garcia played a round with the 15" holes, they really didn't shoot that much better than they normally would have. It makes putting easier from inside 10 feet, but the rest of the game is still really hard.
 
There are a ton of new studies out that debunk the old theory that in order to shave strokes off of your game you need to be better at putting. While there can be improvements made on the putting green to help your score, for the average golfer, larger strides can be made from the outside of 125 yards (meaning from the tee box to 125 yards). Essentially, there are more strokes to be gained by becoming better with the long game than being a better putter.
 
While I think this is a cute idea and it may be fun to play while getting new people interested in the game. The average golfer will not improve until someone finds a way to make the rest of golf easier.
 
I'm not a fan of bifurcation of the game (meaning a different set of rules for pros and amateurs), but it may be necessary to grow the game and make it more accessible to the average golfer. With all of the restrictions on clubs and balls, it hurts the average golfer and stunts their growth. If the USGA and R&A relaxed the rules for club allowances for the weekend golfer, you'd see a lot more people enjoy the game.
 

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FL4WL3SS said:
 
I'm not a fan of bifurcation of the game (meaning a different set of rules for pros and amateurs), but it may be necessary to grow the game and make it more accessible to the average golfer. With all of the restrictions on clubs and balls, it hurts the average golfer and stunts their growth. If the USGA and R&A relaxed the rules for club allowances for the weekend golfer, you'd see a lot more people enjoy the game.
I think, especially for the weekend golfer (or potential weekend golfer), difficulty isn't the biggest deterrent. I think time and cost are the 2 largest. That makes the 15 inch hole proposal kind of pointless as it won't really shave much time off of a round.
Whenever i can, i get out on a weekday and as such, usually end up playing with a retiree or 2 (i'm 34) and they often lament the cost, wondering why courses don't offer better discounts for weekday rounds. Of course, they're being somewhat self-serving as they have the time to play multiple times per week but it could easily apply to Junior golfers as well. If more courses offered better junior rates and or family rates, i bet more people would play at a younger age.
 

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Full on brag ahead:
 
I'm getting married next Saturday.  I've planned 4 rounds of golf during the honeymoon.  They are:
 
1. Waikele Country Club
2. Ewa Beach Golf Course (friend's dad is a member there)
3. Turtle Bay: Palmer
4.  Pebble Beach
 
 
Because of the wedding and work, I've only gotten out once so far so I'm going to suck...but I am so fucking excited.
 

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FL4WL3SS said:
I'm not a fan of bifurcation of the game (meaning a different set of rules for pros and amateurs), but it may be necessary to grow the game and make it more accessible to the average golfer. With all of the restrictions on clubs and balls, it hurts the average golfer and stunts their growth. If the USGA and R&A relaxed the rules for club allowances for the weekend golfer, you'd see a lot more people enjoy the game.
Isn't this already basically the case anyway?  The pros never lose a ball because they have crowds and caddies and forecaddies and marshals who put flags by the ball.  They never wonder what the condition of the bunker is because it's always the same condition.  They have caddies for every round who know every inch of the course.  It's already a different game so the rules should be adjusted outside of tournament play so why not make some practical changes to the rules and to etiquette.
 
1) No more stroke and distance.  Take lateral relief from everywhere.  Looking for your ball is by far the part of the game that slows things down the most.
2) Double par limit on every hole.  If you reach 6 on a par 3 you're done.  What's the point of a 12 on any hole?
3) Once you start putting you keep going until you're done.  Honors is old and stupid.
4) Ditto on the tee.  Just hit the fucking ball,  Who cares what anyone else did on the hole before you.
5) You can ground your club at any time and you can test the bunker.  When was the last time you saw the best players in the world hit from a footprint?  Never?  So why do I have to?
 

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Isn't this already basically the case anyway?  The pros never lose a ball because they have crowds and caddies and forecaddies and marshals who put flags by the ball.  They never wonder what the condition of the bunker is because it's always the same condition.  They have caddies for every round who know every inch of the course.  It's already a different game so the rules should be adjusted outside of tournament play so why not make some practical changes to the rules and to etiquette.
 
1) No more stroke and distance.  Take lateral relief from everywhere.  Looking for your ball is by far the part of the game that slows things down the most.
2) Double par limit on every hole.  If you reach 6 on a par 3 you're done.  What's the point of a 12 on any hole?
3) Once you start putting you keep going until you're done.  Honors is old and stupid.
4) Ditto on the tee.  Just hit the fucking ball,  Who cares what anyone else did on the hole before you.
5) You can ground your club at any time and you can test the bunker.  When was the last time you saw the best players in the world hit from a footprint?  Never?  So why do I have to?
With the exception of number 5 welcome to our Saturday group.
 

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Just picked up a cobra amp 4h and a rocketballz 3h. Was firing them 245 and 230 pretty consistently at the sim. Cant wait to test drive them this weekend
 

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Where can I shop for putters that are 60 degree toe hang and 0 offset. I got fitted today but he couldn't give be a list of putters that meet my specs.
 

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jercra said:
Isn't this already basically the case anyway?  The pros never lose a ball because they have crowds and caddies and forecaddies and marshals who put flags by the ball.  They never wonder what the condition of the bunker is because it's always the same condition.  They have caddies for every round who know every inch of the course.  It's already a different game so the rules should be adjusted outside of tournament play so why not make some practical changes to the rules and to etiquette.
 
1) No more stroke and distance.  Take lateral relief from everywhere.  Looking for your ball is by far the part of the game that slows things down the most.
2) Double par limit on every hole.  If you reach 6 on a par 3 you're done.  What's the point of a 12 on any hole?
3) Once you start putting you keep going until you're done.  Honors is old and stupid.
4) Ditto on the tee.  Just hit the fucking ball,  Who cares what anyone else did on the hole before you.
5) You can ground your club at any time and you can test the bunker.  When was the last time you saw the best players in the world hit from a footprint?  Never?  So why do I have to?
Nothing. Nothing pisses me off more than someone taking 60 seconds to read a putt only to have see them have a hack stroke where their line had literally nothing to do with the result.

I also hate when people say "I cant believe that break left?" No bro. You pulled it. I take maybe 15 seconds to read a putt, and then about 5 second to address it and putt and putting is probably my biggest strength right now.

Less is more people.
 

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My grandfather taught me the game of golf and he was an absolutely tremendous putter and scratch golfer. He was nicknamed "one putt" at his country club. He made alot of money and broke alot of spirits sinking 20 footers.

He basically told me that if you don't see the line almost immediately when addressing the ball then you aren't going to see it. He taught me how to "feel" the ball into the hole rather than making putting a technique thing. My ability to read break pretty much stems straight from that and refusing to over analyze a putt.

Step behind the ball, see it, putt it.
 

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My first piece of advice would be go to a golf store and start experimenting with fat putter grips.

Find one you like and get it. There is a reason pros use them. They dramatically decrease your hands, which really helps with putts inside 15 feet.
 

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Does anyone know if the changeable weights on the bottom of putters can affect toe hang? Probably, right? I don't know why there isn't a spreadsheet that has the specs for every golf club. I think that would be helpful for the fitting process.
 
I think I'm gonna find a used Ping O-blade and - if it's heavy enough - throw a super stroke on it.
 
Papelbon's Poutine said:
Nike's Method line has options on the toe hang that are labeled right in the model number. MOD 30/60/90. 60 degree toe hang you're probably looking at a traditional heel shafted blade model, like an Anser.
 
These companies and their $300 putters. I checked them out but it looks like the MOD 60 has offset. Pap, I went up your guy in Manchester. It was very helpful, and I'm going back soon. The putter fitting wasn't worth $75, but otherwise I was happy.
 

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SouthernBoSox said:
My first piece of advice would be go to a golf store and start experimenting with fat putter grips.

Find one you like and get it. There is a reason pros use them. They dramatically decrease your hands, which really helps with putts inside 15 feet.
I actually have a fat grip. Im not usually that bad around the green but yest was a nightmare
 

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phragle said:
Does anyone know if the changeable weights on the bottom of putters can affect toe hang? Probably, right? I don't know why there isn't a spreadsheet that has the specs for every golf club. I think that would be helpful for the fitting process.
 
I think I'm gonna find a used Ping O-blade and - if it's heavy enough - throw a super stroke on it.
 
 
These companies and their $300 putters. I checked them out but it looks like the MOD 60 has offset. Pap, I went up your guy in Manchester. It was very helpful, and I'm going back soon. The putter fitting wasn't worth $75, but otherwise I was happy.
 
 I just picked up one of the new Ping Karsten putters and I absolutely love it, I also agree about the fat grip. Limited sample size but it has really helped me on the short putts.
 

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If anyone is looking to buy a new putter or irons, let me know.
 
I have a set of Adams CB1 Pro Black irons with Project X 6.0 Flighted shafts, standard loft/lie, 4-GW. I also have a Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Mid-Slant. Both up for grabs.
 

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I got a combo MB/CB Titleist 712s: 3, 4, 5 are CB and 6-PW are MB. The Adams are actually my extra extra set.
 
I stopped using the Scotty two years ago. I use a YES! Jenny-12 right now and love it, rolls the ball great. I took out the Scotty this season again and just don't putt that well with it, so I'm finally biting the bullet and getting rid of it.
 
I love the Adams irons, but I hate not having a 3-iron. I don't like hybrids, just don't feel comfortable with them and I use my 3-iron off the tee a lot when I need to get in the fairway.
 

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I'm trying to get my game back after a 10 year layoff. Used to be a 12 but never broke 80. Been playing since last July (Florida, so year 'round) and becoming somewhat frustrated. Having trouble breaking 100/50. I play a lot of 9 hole rounds. At the pro's suggestion invested in a new driver, Cobra Amp; huge difference. I'm now 90% in fairway at 260-290. Again at pro's suggestion grabbed the irons, 4-GW, of the same type (Amp). Had been playing c. 2000 Titleist 990s. Guy at Golfsmith measured me and said I was standard length minus 1 to 1 1/8.

New irons are all over the place. Got the shanks since I started using them. When I hit them good they fly great but not the experience I'd hoped for. Can anyone comment whether it's worth it to have the lengths changed and or the lie changed. I feel like I want to be closer to the ball but when I do, I'm fat or I shank.

Thanks.
 

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Woo i played freaking great today. Gold tees at olde salem w the fiance for 9 holes in between moving crap. Finished w a birdie had 3 pars. Shot a 40 but was on the fairway most of the day. Wet and choppy greens didnt help but very happy w how i struck the ball today.
 

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I had a weird day yesterday. Traveled an hour to play an old Donald Ross course that was supposed to blow my socks off. The course was in rough shape given the winter we've had, so I didn't get a good feel for it. The greens were in terrible shape with a lot of bare spots.
 
I shot 49 on the front and was absolutely miserable. I hit the ball like shit and got ever bad bounce and unlucky lie you could imagine. Then I shot 36 on the back with 3 birdies, so I don't know, this game is weird.
 

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phragle said:
Do you guys make adjustments - like trying to keep the ball lower - when it's windy?
Really depends.

I have what I call a "fully released swing" its kind of old school. Anyway, I hit the ball really fucking high as a result of it and unless the wind is insane, I do better just take more/less club and hitting a normal shot.

But if your hitting into a 3 club wind you almost have to flight it. I actually move the ball forward in my stance and just they to dead my wrist. I see a lot of people move the ball way back it just causes them to flick at the ball and it ballons. I found I could actually hit it lower with more consistency if I moved it forward.

Anyway, I wouldn't try to change your shot unless it's a last resort. We aren't good enough repeating one swing, no need to add more variables.
 

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phragle said:
Do you guys make adjustments - like trying to keep the ball lower - when it's windy?
Absolutely, but it really depends on the skill of the player.  Lower handicaps should be able to play a knockdown or trap draw without much of an issue.  It's not a particularly difficult shot and is incredibly useful if you ever play on the coast or in a generally windy place like Hawaii or the Mountain West.  Club select adjustments are just as important in the wind though.  I'll often hit 3 wood off the tee in the wind because it flies lower and is easier to draw than driver.  I'll also go 1 club up and then hit a knockdown because it's easier to hit a knockdown or trap with an easier swing.
 
Higher handicaps or those with lower skill levels should probably focus more on taking the same swing with the ball back and a lower lofted club.  That will have some knockdown effect without needing to learn a new skill.
 

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phragle said:
Is Global Golf legit or nah?
 
Very legit.  Been happy with everything I've ordered from there.
 
Callaway pre-owned a had a BOGO deal on their RAZR woods yesterday.  Picked up a 3 hybrid and RAZR Hawk driver.  Won't be here for this weekend's round though :(
 
Anyone got a good recommendation on the best (free) GPS app?
 

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Thanks, guys.  Just checked out Swing by Swing.  Beautiful and easy to use.
 

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Do you guys have a different grip for different clubs?  I.e, your grip when using a driver is different from irons.
 
My driver was all over the place so I went for a lesson.  The pro change my grip and it has helped a ton.  Just curious if I should be using the same grip for my irons.  Or since my irons are usually decent, stick to what works right now.
 

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I hit a monster power fade w my driver and my irons tend to draw a little. I use the same grip i just dont start closing the clubface on the driver. If i try to overcompensate with my grip to hit a draw i hook my irons all day. If you can master two grips go for it, but it never works well for me